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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 07 2015 13:52 GMT
#50481
I enjoy playing with and against techies most of the time !
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 07 2015 13:53 GMT
#50482
I enjoy watching Techies highlights, that's about it.
kiss kiss fall in love
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 07 2015 13:57 GMT
#50483
I would rather play against BS, SB and oracle than one techies.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 07 2015 13:58 GMT
#50484
On July 07 2015 22:57 Plansix wrote:
I would rather play against BS, SB and oracle than one techies.

Do BS, SB, and Oracle have to be good players on those heroes?
kiss kiss fall in love
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 07 2015 14:00 GMT
#50485
On July 07 2015 22:58 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 22:57 Plansix wrote:
I would rather play against BS, SB and oracle than one techies.

Do BS, SB, and Oracle have to be good players on those heroes?

It just sounds horrible to lane at any skill level. The oracle is most there because of the get out of jail free card ult. You could replace him with tree I guess.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44313 Posts
July 07 2015 14:07 GMT
#50486
On July 07 2015 22:57 Plansix wrote:
I would rather play against BS, SB and oracle than one techies.

are you serious you'd rather play against 17% not to bash hero ?
this is a quote
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
July 07 2015 14:09 GMT
#50487
On July 07 2015 23:07 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 22:57 Plansix wrote:
I would rather play against BS, SB and oracle than one techies.

are you serious you'd rather play against 17% not to bash hero ?

when ppl say he bashed me 5 times in a row
they dont count charge and ulti has 100% so its more like 3 bashes
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 07 2015 14:10 GMT
#50488
On July 07 2015 23:07 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 22:57 Plansix wrote:
I would rather play against BS, SB and oracle than one techies.

are you serious you'd rather play against 17% not to bash hero ?

Yeah. He is a pain, but at least I get to try to kill him and he can't drag the game out for an extra 20 minutes. And he is pretty dumb once you get a BKB.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 07 2015 14:14 GMT
#50489
On July 07 2015 23:09 ChunderBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 23:07 goody153 wrote:
On July 07 2015 22:57 Plansix wrote:
I would rather play against BS, SB and oracle than one techies.

are you serious you'd rather play against 17% not to bash hero ?

when ppl say he bashed me 5 times in a row
they dont count charge and ulti has 100% so its more like 3 bashes

yesterday in a scrim i got bashed 4 times in a row at minute 2 i legit got dropped from 400 to 0 without doing anything
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 14:27:31
July 07 2015 14:27 GMT
#50490
When you get attacked less than 6 times the expected number of bashes is below 1 so often even just getting bashed once is reasonably bullshit
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 14:28:27
July 07 2015 14:27 GMT
#50491
On July 07 2015 23:27 Sn0_Man wrote:
When you get attacked less than 6 times the expected number of bashes is below 1 so in general even just getting bashed once is reasonably bullshit

that's not how...

oh sigh whatever
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 07 2015 14:28 GMT
#50492
What sort of RNG does his bash use? Real RNG or that thing where if you don't bash, your odds of getting a bash next are increased to match the expected probability?
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 07 2015 14:29 GMT
#50493
On July 07 2015 23:27 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 23:27 Sn0_Man wrote:
When you get attacked less than 6 times the expected number of bashes is below 1 so in general even just getting bashed once is reasonably bullshit

that's not how...

oh sigh whatever
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrpZj5G2XkM

the expected number of bashes for one hit is 0.17, that is exactly how it works
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 07 2015 14:29 GMT
#50494
real rng thats the problem which means ur either an awesome spirit breaker player or ur garbage
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 07 2015 14:31 GMT
#50495
On July 07 2015 23:29 teddyoojo wrote:
real rng thats the problem which means ur either an awesome spirit breaker player or ur garbage

I though all RNG in the game used Valve magic RNG that isn't really RNG. Did this change?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 14:32:34
July 07 2015 14:31 GMT
#50496
I actually see no reason SB's bash should be true RNG. I get LD's bear sorta (though i fucking hate it), but SB makes no sense to me.

On July 07 2015 23:31 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 23:29 teddyoojo wrote:
real rng thats the problem which means ur either an awesome spirit breaker player or ur garbage

I though all RNG in the game used Valve magic RNG that isn't really RNG. Did this change?

iirc the only things that use true RNG vs PRD is SB's greater bash and LD entangle. THere might be one more but....i can't think of it if there is another.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
July 07 2015 14:33 GMT
#50497
spacecow is not comparable to techies.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 14:40:37
July 07 2015 14:39 GMT
#50498
I still feel that spacecow's bash chance should be increased to maybe like 25%, but with that increase should come a much longer cooldown that is reduced faster with spacecow moving set amounts of distance. Or make it an active ability with a relatively long cooldown compared to what it has now.

I feel the bash itself is fine in what it does, but it's just an ability that's currently in the either it's stupidly frustrating to play against or it's garbage-tier. Would be great if it was inbetween that.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
July 07 2015 14:41 GMT
#50499
On July 07 2015 23:31 Comeh wrote:
I actually see no reason SB's bash should be true RNG. I get LD's bear sorta (though i fucking hate it), but SB makes no sense to me.

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 23:31 Plansix wrote:
On July 07 2015 23:29 teddyoojo wrote:
real rng thats the problem which means ur either an awesome spirit breaker player or ur garbage

I though all RNG in the game used Valve magic RNG that isn't really RNG. Did this change?

iirc the only things that use true RNG vs PRD is SB's greater bash and LD entangle. THere might be one more but....i can't think of it if there is another.

Void dodge?
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 07 2015 14:43 GMT
#50500
I explained backtrack to my LoL friend and he still to this day cannot accept that ability is real. I should tell him about the real vs fake RNG and his brain will break.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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