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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-29 12:09:32
May 29 2015 12:08 GMT
#39441
Leave it to p6 to spout uneducated opinions after failing to read 140 characters of text or we the twitter limit is. I wonder if rito would ban me for that comment, h3h3.
Apparently gg ez is racist and homophobe now, too.

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Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
May 29 2015 12:11 GMT
#39442
On May 29 2015 20:41 kirsed wrote:
What happens when you're just the worst?

Yeah, I've had some pretty fucking awful games on occasion, and I'd rather not get banned just because an automated system decided that I was in fact "intentionally feeding."
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
May 29 2015 12:29 GMT
#39443
league of legoland chimp is viable pick -> must nerf
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"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
May 29 2015 12:33 GMT
#39444
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Howie_Dewitt
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-29 12:43:18
May 29 2015 12:43 GMT
#39445
I got 2 shields on Sven, he looks ridiculous
Also lesh immortal is sick
hats
Sisyphus had a good gig going, the disappointment was predictable. | Visions of the Country (1978) is for when you're lost.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 29 2015 12:46 GMT
#39446
One of the main reasons I stopped playing LoL, their love of nerfing characters into the ground. I hear they buffed Jayce back to some level of viable, but I can't go back.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 29 2015 12:53 GMT
#39447
On May 29 2015 20:29 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 20:18 dismiss wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:02 Plansix wrote:
Instant feedback is good. Like training a puppy, you need to punish the average moba player right after they broke the rules. Otherwise you can't train them.

Just wait until you get instantly punished for intentionally feeding every game then, hehe. I don't understand why you can't let people communicate in whatever manner they choose. Hopefully we're all grown ups after all.

It only targets verbal abuse, racism and homophobia. And you can get kicked out of places as a grown up if you say racist and homophobic things.

standard p6 drinking the SJW koolaid that Riot's pouring him

is GG EZ homophobic? Abusive? how about just typing BG? Too abusive? How about calling your team stupid, too abusive? How about making fun of the enemy team fucking up by dropping the ?, is that too TOXIC for you buddy?

You should know never, ever to trust what Riot says, and look at their actions. Is calling your team a bunch of stupid feeders too abusive? Where's the line.

Don't say you shouldn't be abusive at all, because then you're saying that players shouldn't be angry for having 20+ minutes of their lives wasted, anger is a perfectly normal human reaction.

Like fuck dude, you play Dota, you should know how small a percentage of people really use racism and homophobia, the large majority aren't calling you a nigger or a faggot, and even if they are they aren't using them due to some inherent hate of black or gay people, they're just insulting you because they're upset. You may think their choice of insults is wrong but that's such a ridiculous line in the sand to draw.

and then there's the issue of abuse, the problem is Riot views any abuse at all as TOO ABUSIVE TOO FUCKING TOXIC but we all know in real life that there's a certain amount of trash talk and abuse, holy shit most of the dota community does it to ourselves, i'm pretty sure everyone in a TL-GD disaster stack would get banned from league for just a few games in that style because we flame eachother as PART of the fun. Flaming is fun, and sometimes, being flamed is fun, BANTER is fun.

Alcohol is a 'toxic' substance, but studies have proven that if everyone is drinking at a table, there's more 'golden moments' where everyone there is smiling or laughing.Its a social lubricant. Trash talk and abusive language is much the same, A certain amount is a social lubricant that makes things more fun, it motivates and can influence the game, you know you wanna go shit on a kid in Dota if he shit-talks you because killing him will feel that much better. For both there's too much that starts to cause damage, but there's a healthy amount too.

And finally I just gotta call them hard on their bullshit anyways. We all play a fucking moba here, once again the amount of insults that are 'homophobic, or racist, or sexist, or transphobic' (all things Lyte has said the system is meant to fight) is pretty fucking small, and many times its just using words that could be considered under that umbrella, the problem here is intent and context matter, a bunch of friends joking and saying insults to each other that may be considered transgressive towards a group, like i don't know, the fucking name 'FUTANARI NEKO' in Nigma's stack doesn't mean that he's being transphobic or stupid shit, them calling eachother faggots or bitches doesn't make them homophobic or sexist, intent matters, not just words.

This system doesn't fix any of that, the only reason Lyte brings that shit up anyways is because GamerGate is still a thing in recent memory so all four of those words are BUZZWORDS right now that are there to advertise how CARING AND COMPASSIONATE and how Riot is dedicated to SAFE SPACES( I could go on a whole nother rant about how safe spaces are antithetical to competitiveness and intellectualism.) The thing you have to remember about Riot is they're always out to promote Riot first, its not even about profits for them, watch the LCS sometime and you'll notice that a lot of what they're promoting as you watch it isn't league but its all focused on Promoting RIOT and the RIOT beliefs and the RIOT style. That's all they care about, and the only reason Lyte brought those buzzwords up is to promote Riot to more people, because they want everyone to think that Riot cares and is the most benevolent game company ever isn't riot great guys lets go circle jerk about it in our private mod chat w/ rioters in it that we signed NDAs with Riot to be in so we can't tell you anything about it. Like this company is fucking paranoid and weird and cultish, every interaction w/ them involves an NDA.

Fuck, i'm getting off topic now. Whatever, you get my point. p6 is stupid for listening and believing. Never trust Riot.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 29 2015 12:56 GMT
#39448
lmfao shaella hahahahaha
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 29 2015 12:57 GMT
#39449
i'm fucking losing it boys.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-29 13:02:36
May 29 2015 13:00 GMT
#39450
Someones feelings got the better of them. I guess its isn't "realz not feelz" after all.

And lets be clear, I've been muted in dota a bunch of times. I am guilty like everyone else. The difference its I act like I'm justified doing so or Valve shouldn't hit me with a must for doing it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
May 29 2015 13:00 GMT
#39451
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 29 2015 13:01 GMT
#39452
you fucked that meme up p6 its FEELZ > REALZ

goddamnit can you suck any harder?
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 29 2015 13:04 GMT
#39453
On May 29 2015 22:00 Plansix wrote:
Someones feelings got the better of them. I guess its isn't "realz not feelz" after all.

And lets be clear, I've been muted in dota a bunch of times. I am guilty like everyone else. The difference its I act like I'm justified doing so or Valve shouldn't hit me with a must for doing it.

how the fuck did you get muted i literally tell people to kill themselves in dota all the time and i've never gotten muted

god damn you suck SO HARD.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-29 13:05:41
May 29 2015 13:04 GMT
#39454
Someone needs a nap or a cookie. Blood sugar might be to low.

Edit: LoL, my work here is done. My Friday is 100% better now.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 29 2015 13:06 GMT
#39455
i actually just woke up angry tbh.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
May 29 2015 13:06 GMT
#39456
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
May 29 2015 13:07 GMT
#39457
shaella
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 29 2015 13:08 GMT
#39458
On May 29 2015 22:06 Dattish wrote:
how is it that every time p6 is losing an argument he resorts to the marco tactics

because he can't actually think for himself.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
May 29 2015 13:08 GMT
#39459
On May 29 2015 22:06 Shaella wrote:
i actually just woke up angry tbh.

Think you should cool down some more before falling for simple trollbaits. :S
There is no need to be mad.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 29 2015 13:09 GMT
#39460
On May 29 2015 22:08 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 22:06 Shaella wrote:
i actually just woke up angry tbh.

Think you should cool down some more before falling for simple trollbaits. :S

The thing is its not trollbait

This picture describes p6 in this situation.

[image loading]

sorry that was ABLEIST.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
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