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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
May 28 2015 17:49 GMT
#38881
On May 29 2015 02:48 goody153 wrote:
oh fuck i totally missed that yesterday cause i was playing MTG while being drunk yesterday .. both of them streamed, right ?


The cast was just on EE's stream I think. Originally it was EE and Fata but then Fata disappeared for some reason and Bone joined in
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
May 28 2015 17:50 GMT
#38882
On May 29 2015 02:27 SKC wrote:
they are made for justice.

People just have diferent ideas of justice. But whoever made that law did it because they thought it was a just thing to fine people for singing.

Just because they put stupid or corrupt people in charge of making laws doesn't mean the whole idea behind laws isn't justice. It's like saying the point of police isn't to protect people just because a few policeman don't.

yet you cannot substantiate various laws with the concept of justice, and these statutes aren't even archaic or 'wrong'

take fishing limitations - in what way is these laws 'just'? who are you being fair to? the fish? our progeny that may not have the chance to eat these fish? the environment?

the stupid laws i mentioned were supposed to be a hyperbole so that the point could be conveyed more easily.

there are a multitude of laws made for a very specific arbitrary reason and not all of it distributes justice. some are made to protect the populace and others are made as safeguards or hedges against future mishaps and still others are made to address a certain problem that only exist in a particular paradigm of culture in a specific time.
I'm not suggesting that laws are unneeded or whatever; laws are only a means to an end and that end may not always be 'justice'.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
May 28 2015 17:51 GMT
#38883
How do you even win a game as slardar.
that hero does absolutly nothing
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44294 Posts
May 28 2015 17:53 GMT
#38884
On May 29 2015 02:51 Slomo wrote:
How do you even win a game as slardar.
that hero does absolutly nothing

buy poormans shield go roaming support and smash people faces
this is a quote
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 28 2015 17:53 GMT
#38885
On May 29 2015 02:50 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 02:27 SKC wrote:
they are made for justice.

People just have diferent ideas of justice. But whoever made that law did it because they thought it was a just thing to fine people for singing.

Just because they put stupid or corrupt people in charge of making laws doesn't mean the whole idea behind laws isn't justice. It's like saying the point of police isn't to protect people just because a few policeman don't.

yet you cannot substantiate various laws with the concept of justice, and these statutes aren't even archaic or 'wrong'

take fishing limitations - in what way is these laws 'just'? who are you being fair to? the fish? our progeny that may not have the chance to eat these fish? the environment?

the stupid laws i mentioned were supposed to be a hyperbole so that the point could be conveyed more easily.

there are a multitude of laws made for a very specific arbitrary reason and not all of it distributes justice. some are made to protect the populace and others are made as safeguards or hedges against future mishaps and still others are made to address a certain problem that only exist in a particular paradigm of culture in a specific time.
I'm not suggesting that laws are unneeded or whatever; laws are only a means to an end and that end may not always be 'justice'.

The goals legal system and the purpose of laws are not the same thing. As I said before, the legal system can overturn laws.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 28 2015 17:53 GMT
#38886
doesn't crush have an 8s cd?
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
May 28 2015 17:55 GMT
#38887
right, so the purpose of the laws sometimes preclude 'justice'
that's my entire argument: laws don't always distribute justice.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44294 Posts
May 28 2015 17:56 GMT
#38888
On May 29 2015 02:53 Sn0_Man wrote:
doesn't crush have an 8s cd?

and with ult it increases it's damage ..
this is a quote
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 28 2015 17:56 GMT
#38889
okay but increasing 200 damage is a joke
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 28 2015 17:56 GMT
#38890
freedom is better than justice anyways
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
May 28 2015 17:58 GMT
#38891
u blink on stuff and hope u dont die
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 28 2015 17:59 GMT
#38892
On May 29 2015 02:55 andyrau wrote:
right, so the purpose of the laws sometimes preclude 'justice'
that's my entire argument: laws don't always distribute justice.

And laws are not the legal system, they are just part of it. The system is built around the idea that some laws will be stupid, flawed and will need to be refined or changed. The system also takes into account human error, bias and incorrect interpretations of law. You are pointing one aspect of the system and claiming that isn't purpose isn't the goal of the entire system.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
May 28 2015 18:04 GMT
#38893
but i'm not talking about the entire judicial system, i'm talking about the legislature or legal code that underlies it.
i agree that the purpose of the judicial system is to distribute justice and it does so with decent effectiveness, but laws themselves are not created to do the same thing.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44294 Posts
May 28 2015 18:06 GMT
#38894
On May 29 2015 02:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
okay but increasing 200 damage is a joke

but it's about your friends right click with slardar

from what i've seen you usually blink stomp then run away with sprint
this is a quote
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 28 2015 18:08 GMT
#38895
Why not just play centaur? All the fun of slardar with like half the problems?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
May 28 2015 18:08 GMT
#38896
This whole thing started with something finding it strange that laws and justice were the same word in a certain language. It's more about the abstract concept of both laws and justice and how they are connected than how a few laws out of thousands can be weird or how some people abuse the legal system thousands of years after the words were born.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44294 Posts
May 28 2015 18:08 GMT
#38897
On May 29 2015 03:08 Plansix wrote:
Why not just play centaur? All the fun of slardar with like half the problems?

shhhh
this is a quote
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 28 2015 18:11 GMT
#38898
He doesn't even the safe lane. He can hand out solo in the off lane and become the hero you need later. Way less needy that fish-man-thing.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44294 Posts
May 28 2015 18:11 GMT
#38899
does half of NA server follow rtz ? cause everygame i see him play they all know he's rtz and most try to stream snipe him
this is a quote
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 28 2015 18:11 GMT
#38900
Ah excellent, artour stream. all is well, qualifiers can delay as long as they want
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