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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 19:54:18
March 24 2015 19:52 GMT
#21481
On March 25 2015 04:51 Sn0_Man wrote:
I forgot to mention what popped into my head when I realized that the TL Hots team was all spanish
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On March 25 2015 04:50 crms wrote:
personally while I think sc2 gameplay itself needs some drastic improvements the thing that 'killed' sc2 was the shitty bnet 2.0 and arcade.

no good community features or UMS scene = deadest game on the global/casual/etc level that you need.

exactly
shitty ass gameplay is one of the smaller issues with sc2 lol

I dunno, I think if a game has bad gameplay, its life is on the line anyways. You can only keep a game interesting for so long with shitty gameplay (though, admittedly, it does last a long time).

I think SC2 could have been a pretty good game even with its easy mode macro / micro mechanics, but not the way sc2 was balanced / designed. And it would always have been a worse game than BW imo.
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 24 2015 19:54 GMT
#21482
also sorry LD ily pls no bullying the casters

are LR threads that bad I guess I just skip over a lot of the caster bashing unless I'm frustrated with the caster idk
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 24 2015 19:55 GMT
#21483
why would you ever read the comments.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 24 2015 19:55 GMT
#21484
On March 25 2015 04:54 eieio wrote:
also sorry LD ily pls no bullying the casters

are LR threads that bad I guess I just skip over a lot of the caster bashing unless I'm frustrated with the caster idk

Who knows, its probalby the loud minority or whatever.
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 19:58:27
March 24 2015 19:57 GMT
#21485
I mean the last time I really paid a lot of attention to an LR thread was DAC and I'm sure there was a vocal minority bashing them but on the whole I feel like comments were mostly just about the game + some compliments about winteR lol

I guess we don't really have the bipolar nature of reddit with bashing but also with shoutout threads.

idk on the whole I feel like this place is way more readable than reddit sorry LD D:
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 24 2015 19:58 GMT
#21486
Reddit is actually the worst website for feedback though
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 24 2015 19:58 GMT
#21487
alright i lost 11 soloq games straight
then i feel like killign myself go 1v1 practice shit mode and LOSE MY FIRST GAME EVER THERE TOO IM DONE FUCK ALL
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 19:59:50
March 24 2015 19:58 GMT
#21488
I don't know if the USM scene would have ever taken off in SC2. This is the era of tons of free games and cheap steam games. One of the reasons I played them was because I was young, poor and didn’t have the ability or option to get new games instantly on my PC. The era of the USM might have just passed.

On March 25 2015 04:58 Shaella wrote:
Reddit is actually the worst website for feedback though


You're not wrong. Didn't Tasteless and Artosis address this issue like years ago that you shouldn't read comments about casting?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
March 24 2015 19:58 GMT
#21489
Not every criticism is constructive but the least you can do is acknowledge that maybe they can be right and there are things to be worked on instead of lashing out and saying forums are all trash.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 24 2015 19:59 GMT
#21490
On March 25 2015 04:58 Shaella wrote:
Reddit is actually the worst website for feedback though

well yeah I have no idea how it would feel differently lol

I've connected me raging to reading reddit to the point that I'm getting better about hiding threads and just ignoring it. Can't imagine what it would be like to use the site if I was a caster or other community member. Like you just see random hating on various people upvoted all the time.
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
March 24 2015 20:06 GMT
#21491
it really doesnt help that the /r/dota2 mods do not give a fuuuuuuuuck


also idk why LD is bitching about LR threads, for the most part they definitely are not bashing the casters
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 24 2015 20:07 GMT
#21492
This Aui_2000 interview on Dota Today is so good. Confirmed comeback mechanic needs tweeking, but he gets why it is there. Plus he admits to being a lazy bum and that PPD sometimes stumbles into amazing combos like Naga/Ax(since patched out).
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
March 24 2015 20:13 GMT
#21493
On March 25 2015 05:07 Plansix wrote:
This Aui_2000 interview on Dota Today is so good. Confirmed comeback mechanic needs tweeking, but he gets why it is there. Plus he admits to being a lazy bum and that PPD sometimes stumbles into amazing combos like Naga/Ax(since patched out).


linkerino pls. comeh was the only one that bothered to comment on me saying the same thing
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 24 2015 20:14 GMT
#21494
On March 25 2015 05:07 Plansix wrote:
This Aui_2000 interview on Dota Today is so good. Confirmed comeback mechanic needs tweeking, but he gets why it is there. Plus he admits to being a lazy bum and that PPD sometimes stumbles into amazing combos like Naga/Ax(since patched out).

is there a vod?
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NubbleST
Profile Joined July 2011
United States86 Posts
March 24 2015 20:14 GMT
#21495
It's on soundcloud

https://soundcloud.com/dota-today/episode-17-aui_2000
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 20:15:09
March 24 2015 20:14 GMT
#21496
https://soundcloud.com/dota-today/episode-17-aui_2000

FUCK NOT EVEN AT THAT I CAN WIN
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 20:15:57
March 24 2015 20:15 GMT
#21497
oh jesus an hour long...maybe ill listen to it while I drive to the dr, thanks. im interested to hear what he has to say about the comeback mechanic.

On March 25 2015 05:14 teddyoojo wrote:
https://soundcloud.com/dota-today/episode-17-aui_2000

FUCK NOT EVEN AT THAT I CAN WIN


shrekt
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
March 24 2015 20:16 GMT
#21498
why is everyone so emo
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 24 2015 20:16 GMT
#21499
On March 25 2015 05:16 tehh4ck3r wrote:
why is everyone so emo

its the come-ehffect
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 24 2015 20:18 GMT
#21500
On March 25 2015 05:16 Comeh wrote:
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On March 25 2015 05:16 tehh4ck3r wrote:
why is everyone so emo

its the come-ehffect

this was pretty good tbh
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