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On March 25 2015 05:21 eieio wrote:
why are people still allowed to link to that dumbass joel sposky article from 2000 about how rewrites are bad when the rewrite he's discussing went on to become the wildly successful firefox browser which provided a better way than IE for people to read Joel's dumbass articles
this is so related to my lecture today
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You're probably never going to get the WC3 system for customs again though. I imagine the Dota 2 customs will try to be a hybrid of both the SC2 and WC3 ones, but we can only speculate on that for now.
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The problem with SC2 on the gameplay side isn't that they made a bad game - but rather that they listened to QQ from people like Idra and went about steadily removing all the anti-fun elements from the game until it became the game it was by the end of WoL
This works for LoL because riot also constantly adds new elements that are very anti-fun for people who can't p2w the new champions, leading to more or less a constant amount of fresh anti-fun in the game.
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Also, the number one overlooked quality of life change in DotA 2 is that Fan of Knives spells all don't interrupt movement. Even though it's technically a minor buff to all the heroes in question.
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On March 25 2015 05:37 Kupon3ss wrote:
The problem with SC2 on the gameplay side isn't that they made a bad game - but rather that they listened to QQ from people like Idra and went about steadily removing all the anti-fun elements from the game until it became the game it was by the end of WoL
This works for LoL because riot also constantly adds new elements that are very anti-fun for people who can't p2w the new champions, leading to more or less a constant amount of anti-fun in the game.
This is a joke, right? Broodlords were fun? That's what they left in the game.
They had terrible design on a lot of key units and features that made them all-but-impossible to balance, and that's what fucked over the competitive scene.
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I also like to be able to click on bounty hunter
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it makes me happy i know what fan of knives is
am i one of u old ppl yet
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I'm pretty sure Dota2 custom games will be heavily tied to the Marketplace. I'll be surprised if custom games aren't based in the hat system.
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On March 25 2015 05:39 Comeh wrote:
I'm pretty sure Dota2 custom games will be heavily tied to the Marketplace. I'll be surprised if custom games aren't based in the hat system.
x-hero sword
bracers of enfos
Frenzy enducing mask of the footman
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On March 25 2015 05:39 Comeh wrote:
I'm pretty sure Dota2 custom games will be heavily tied to the Marketplace. I'll be surprised if custom games aren't based in the hat system.
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Map_Stamp
100% sure we'll get something similar to this eventually.
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oh god i can see it now
pudge wars f2p but if u buy the workshop stamp u get p2w buffs LOL
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On March 25 2015 05:39 Acritter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2015 05:37 Kupon3ss wrote:
The problem with SC2 on the gameplay side isn't that they made a bad game - but rather that they listened to QQ from people like Idra and went about steadily removing all the anti-fun elements from the game until it became the game it was by the end of WoL
This works for LoL because riot also constantly adds new elements that are very anti-fun for people who can't p2w the new champions, leading to more or less a constant amount of anti-fun in the game. This is a joke, right? Broodlords were fun? That's what they left in the game. They had terrible design on a lot of key units and features that made them all-but-impossible to balance, and that's what fucked over the competitive scene.
broodlords were the last non-fun thing left in the game, but think about all the nerfs made to things like void rays, bcs, vikings, HTs, etc and how the fact that those elements became unapproved which directly led to the invincibility of that unit. The problem is that blizzard started with a game in which almost every unit was anti-fun (rather like brood war) and ended up with a game in which only 2 units were anti-fun
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On March 25 2015 05:43 Kupon3ss wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2015 05:39 Acritter wrote:On March 25 2015 05:37 Kupon3ss wrote:
The problem with SC2 on the gameplay side isn't that they made a bad game - but rather that they listened to QQ from people like Idra and went about steadily removing all the anti-fun elements from the game until it became the game it was by the end of WoL
This works for LoL because riot also constantly adds new elements that are very anti-fun for people who can't p2w the new champions, leading to more or less a constant amount of anti-fun in the game. This is a joke, right? Broodlords were fun? That's what they left in the game. They had terrible design on a lot of key units and features that made them all-but-impossible to balance, and that's what fucked over the competitive scene. broodlords were the last non-fun thing left in the game, but think about all the nerfs made to things like void rays, bcs, vikings, HTs, etc and how the fact that those elements became unapproved which directly led to the invincibility of that unit. The problem is that blizzard started with a game in which almost every unit was anti-fun (rather like brood war) and ended up with a game in which only 2 units were anti-fun
I think SC2 had more units that were anti fun for both the user and the used-against. In bw, its generally fun to use most anti fun units, but not fun at all for the used against.
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all I remember of early wol is 4gate
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pretty sure a unit with 12 range, 70 aoe damage, and only cost 150/100 is extremely anti fun for everybody involved
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i swear to god i'm going to pistol whip the next person who says anti-fun
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are video games meant to be fun though
On March 25 2015 05:46 Shaella wrote:
i swear to god i'm going to pistol whip the next person who says anti-fun
i see uve met kupo
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On March 25 2015 05:45 trifecta wrote:
all I remember of early wol is 4gate
Four gating people was fun. Almost as much fun as 6 pooling people or proxy raxing.
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On March 25 2015 05:46 Kupon3ss wrote:
pretty sure a unit with 12 range, 70 aoe damage, and only cost 150/100 is extremely anti fun for everybody involved
But only when they overkill units and can can commit mutual suicide when attacked into by a mass of cheap melee units.
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On March 25 2015 05:46 Shaella wrote:
i swear to god i'm going to pistol whip the next person who says anti-fun
to be expected of a player / fan of the antifunmoba. (can we call dota the antifunmoba now?)
On March 25 2015 05:47 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2015 05:46 Kupon3ss wrote:
pretty sure a unit with 12 range, 70 aoe damage, and only cost 150/100 is extremely anti fun for everybody involved But only when they overkill units and can can commit mutual suicide when attacked into by a mass of cheap melee units.
I was pretty mad when they nerfed tanks that way. I knew we were fucked then.
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