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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On March 25 2015 05:43 Kupon3ss wrote: broodlords were the last non-fun thing left in the game, but think about all the nerfs made to things like void rays, bcs, vikings, HTs, etc and how the fact that those elements became unapproved which directly led to the invincibility of that unit. The problem is that blizzard started with a game in which almost every unit was anti-fun (rather like brood war) and ended up with a game in which only 2 units were anti-fun No. Broodlords aren't even fun to use. A lot of the other stuff was fun to use. It's not anti-fun in anywhere near the same way Broodlords were, especially combined with Infestors. I think you're using "anti-fun" to mean "powerful" or "demanding response." Really, what you should be concerned with is inhibiting response, which is what many of the SC2 units did and which was generally the issue with them. Broodwar units, tactics, and strategies were generally quite powerful and demanded responses, but very few of them actively inhibited responses. In fact, I can only think of the Bisu Build which did that. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 25 2015 05:47 TheYango wrote: But only when they overkill units and can can commit mutual suicide when attacked into by a mass of cheap melee units. People would have just whined about that and that the units should be smarter/not shoot themselves. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
its only overpowered because all relevant anti-air were nerfed into oblivion and blizzard decided to give the zerg race a free ticket to a greedy lategame with the queen and overlord buffs thanks to the most overpowered meta in SC2, aka the QQ meta | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On March 25 2015 05:51 Kupon3ss wrote: massing broodlords is fundementally no different and no less anti-fun than massing carriers in BW its only overpowered because all relevant anti-air were nerfed into oblivion and blizzard decided to give the zerg race a free ticket to a greedy lategame with the queen and overlord buffs thanks to the most overpowered meta in SC2, aka the QQ meta ya no carriers don't limit the ability of ground units to intercept them | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
Dude loves 'SHADING', used to talk with him on /m/ + Show Spoiler + | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 25 2015 05:50 Acritter wrote: I feel like I should be able to report that post. Why? What I said is 100% true. You're reading the literal meaning of the term anti-fun, which doesn't match the use of the buzzword at all. Riot essentially coined the term describing things that were superficially un-fun to play with and were therefore mechanics they removed from the game (there's some more bullshit in there about "creating more fun than it takes away", but that's all just fluff). But in actuality, those units/abilities/mechanics contribute heavily to the depth and complexity of the game (things like denying that Riot removed from the DotA baseline). So the term "anti-fun" jokingly took on the double meaning referring to both of those parts. Broodlord discussion aside, that exactly describes most of the things that Blizzard decided to take out from the BW formula in SC2. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On March 25 2015 05:51 Kupon3ss wrote: massing broodlords is fundementally no different and no less anti-fun than massing carriers in BW its only overpowered because all relevant anti-air were nerfed into oblivion and blizzard decided to give the zerg race a free ticket to a greedy lategame with the queen and overlord buffs thanks to the most overpowered meta in SC2, aka the QQ meta qq meta wins over all others | ||
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Slomo
Germany7198 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 25 2015 06:03 Slomo wrote: RIP Archon toilet, RIP SC2. I miss archon toilet. It was so dumb, but so awesome. And mass recall, which was also awesome when people were using it for cool things. But yeah, fuck the QQ meta. I liked some of the really stupid shit in WoL that people did. | ||
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eieio
United States14512 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Interviewer: Do you think EE enjoys his pub games? Aui_2000: I mean, he has to right? He is feeling....something. Also, he has literally zero idea who is he playing after the interview. Qualifiers be really worth their time. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
That's why I started playing random when I played SC2. More fun to actually enjoy everything than to worry about actually being good at anything. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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eieio
United States14512 Posts
On March 25 2015 06:09 Targe wrote: hey eieio is 4.0-652 still what i want for netplay? ya | ||
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