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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 23 2015 17:18 GMT
#21021
The Dark Souls on PC thing was weird because the studio that made the game had never done a port before and it turned out to be harder than they thought.

I don't think anyone is saying locking a game at 30 fps is ok. Its most the stupid bitching that console games run at 30 FPS when they are $400 machines that hook up to your PC. Because console have never had better graphics than PCs and I don't know why they would start now. Its fucking stupid.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 17:20:42
March 23 2015 17:20 GMT
#21022
On March 24 2015 02:13 crms wrote:
I'm late to this discussion but I think locking 30fps is bullshit. You can make the default setting 30 fps to encompass a wide variety of hardware but you should always be able to run 60, 100, 500,000 if your system can handle it.

I remember the dark souls release on PC was fps locked among other silliness but luckily DSFix mod was released within a day that unlocked FPS and cleaned up some other PORT issues.

Pretty sure we are just talking abou tthe console version oif this game though.

I 100% agree about pc though.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 23 2015 17:20 GMT
#21023
Steam machines start under $500 and I'm sure they can outperform a PS4 as well. And that's Alienware overpriced stuff.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 23 2015 17:23 GMT
#21024
On March 24 2015 02:20 SKC wrote:
Steam machines start under $500 and I'm sure they can outperform a PS4 as well. And that's Alienware overpriced stuff.

I think you could do that with the Xbox 360 less than a year after its release. This isn't really anything new.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
March 23 2015 17:23 GMT
#21025
the 500 steam machine itself is about equivalent to a PS4 - the hit in performance is mostly from the use of a mobile skewed graphics card for form factor and power consumption as well as the alienware tax

however most decently built 500 dollar computer should outperform a ps4 significantly
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 23 2015 17:31 GMT
#21026
You can hook up a pc to your tv too. And get controllers for them. And get better hang for your buck. Consles are a ripoff
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 23 2015 17:33 GMT
#21027
I mean consoles may suck ass but from a developer's perspective there's a lot of good things to be said about strictly locked hardware and control options, connectivity, etc.

as a consumer tho fuck consoles honestly
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 23 2015 17:34 GMT
#21028
Nintendo if fine. You may dislike their gimmicks but at least they offer something different. Better than the other two where you could be playing the same thing in a better machine and spending less money.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 23 2015 17:35 GMT
#21029
Single-system multiplayer is actually a big plus for consoles I forgot that
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
March 23 2015 17:35 GMT
#21030
nintendo is the apple of console gaming
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 23 2015 17:37 GMT
#21031
Apple offers the same shit for a higher price. Nintendo offers a different product and it's cheaper. I don't get the comparison.
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
March 23 2015 17:37 GMT
#21032
On March 24 2015 02:35 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
nintendo is the apple of console gaming

Except the prices.
Holy fuck Nintendo stuff is cheap.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
March 23 2015 17:38 GMT
#21033
Wii-U was probably the console with the best exclusives of 2014.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
March 23 2015 17:39 GMT
#21034
On March 24 2015 02:37 SKC wrote:
Apple offers the same shit for a higher price. Nintendo offers a different product and it's cheaper. I don't get the comparison.

it applies a bit more to earlier gens, but 1. all proprietary everything (n64 carts were why square moved to playstation) 2. attempting to censor what's able to get on their platform 3. stuff overpriced relative to power (gamecube sold for higher margins than xbox and ps2, iirc)
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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
March 23 2015 17:39 GMT
#21035
Nintendo is a nice name

nintendo nintendo nintendo
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
March 23 2015 17:40 GMT
#21036
On March 24 2015 02:35 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
nintendo is the apple of console gaming

I disagree, Nintendo products are affordable and don't feel overpriced, Wii and Wii U being the cheapest consoles for their generation is one example.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 23 2015 17:40 GMT
#21037
On March 24 2015 02:39 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 02:37 SKC wrote:
Apple offers the same shit for a higher price. Nintendo offers a different product and it's cheaper. I don't get the comparison.

it applies a bit more to earlier gens, but 1. all proprietary everything (n64 carts were why square moved to playstation) 2. attempting to censor what's able to get on their platform 3. stuff overpriced relative to power (gamecube sold for higher margins than xbox and ps2, iirc)

well xbox sold at a loss so that isn't hard lol
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 17:41:18
March 23 2015 17:40 GMT
#21038
cheap != good value (strictly on price to hardware power ratio i mean)

i mean there's mac minis...
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 23 2015 17:41 GMT
#21039
Nintendo is fucking boss
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 17:43:02
March 23 2015 17:42 GMT
#21040
Consoles are only worth it if you want some of the games that are only coming out for the console. Right now the PS4 has two of them for me, Bloodbourne and Infamous. I am sure there will be more. Its just a question of when it makes sense to get one.

Everything else is just taste and if the person wants to build a PC for their TV. Some people don't.

On March 24 2015 02:40 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 02:39 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On March 24 2015 02:37 SKC wrote:
Apple offers the same shit for a higher price. Nintendo offers a different product and it's cheaper. I don't get the comparison.

it applies a bit more to earlier gens, but 1. all proprietary everything (n64 carts were why square moved to playstation) 2. attempting to censor what's able to get on their platform 3. stuff overpriced relative to power (gamecube sold for higher margins than xbox and ps2, iirc)

well xbox sold at a loss so that isn't hard lol


I think PS4 and XBone are both sold at a loss.
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