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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 23 2015 16:41 GMT
#21001
You don't need to play the Witcher 1. Just read a wiki so you know who some of the returning characters are and watch the opening and ending cut scene from witcher 1. Then you will be primed for witch 2.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 16:47:05
March 23 2015 16:43 GMT
#21002
Just play 2.
Project red released a giant free mod that did a lot to fix the combat about a year and a half ago

No more spending the entire first act putting points in the tutorial skill tree yipee
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 16:47:50
March 23 2015 16:46 GMT
#21003
On March 24 2015 01:39 Comeh wrote:
can i play witcher 2 wihtout playing witcher 1, or do i need to play witcher 1 to get witcher 2

Nah, all the returning characters give you options to say "hey I remember you" and "who are you again, can you tell me?". They explain their stories to you but sometimes some additional info is great so use the interwebz for that.

ALSO READ THE FUCKING BOOKS. They explain a lot about the world The Wither play in AND the new game will open up with a huge spolier of the books. Apparently the third game will be a direct continuation of the book story while the other two games were more independent.
€: Forgot to add that the books are generally great. Not only for the game.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 23 2015 16:49 GMT
#21004
I can't believe you guys are defending 30fps. Low fps is disgusting. Graphics are more subject to taste idk
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
March 23 2015 16:50 GMT
#21005
On March 24 2015 01:46 Slomo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 01:39 Comeh wrote:
can i play witcher 2 wihtout playing witcher 1, or do i need to play witcher 1 to get witcher 2

Nah, all the returning characters give you options to say "hey I remember you" and "who are you again, can you tell me?". They explain their stories to you but sometimes some additional info is great so use the interwebz for that.

ALSO READ THE FUCKING BOOKS. They explain a lot about the world The Wither play in AND the new game will open up with a huge spolier of the books. Apparently the third game will be a direct continuation of the book story while the other two games were more independent.
€: Forgot to add that the books are generally great. Not only for the game.

The short story compilations (The Last Wish and The Sword of Destiny) are really good, almost must-reads in the fantasy genre to me. The main saga has some good parts and bad parts, but if you really want to understand how Yennefer and Ciri tie into Witcher 3 you almost have to read the saga. As long as you read at a decent pace you will probably be done all the books in time for May 19th, most of them are fairly compact and not like reading ASOIAF or Wheel of Time.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
March 23 2015 16:52 GMT
#21006
On March 24 2015 01:49 Shaella wrote:
I can't believe you guys are defending 30fps. Low fps is disgusting. Graphics are more subject to taste idk

So is not having a borderless window mode in some RTS game.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 23 2015 16:52 GMT
#21007
On March 24 2015 01:49 Shaella wrote:
I can't believe you guys are defending 30fps. Low fps is disgusting. Graphics are more subject to taste idk

No one is defending 30 fps, its not something you defend. I can't run every game at 60 FPS because I got fucking bills and a house to heat. We are pointing out that the only reason some games run at 30 fps is because they are on lower powered systems which cost less. Rather than the $700 the PS3 cost back in the day and we all remember how awesome that went.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 23 2015 16:53 GMT
#21008
On March 24 2015 01:49 Shaella wrote:
I can't believe you guys are defending 30fps. Low fps is disgusting. Graphics are more subject to taste idk

IDK - if they force it to run at 60 fps, but its really not smooth / sacrifices that I dont care about the 30 fps.

Yeah its worse but i'd rather have they optimize shit

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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
March 23 2015 16:54 GMT
#21009
On March 24 2015 01:49 Shaella wrote:
I can't believe you guys are defending 30fps. Low fps is disgusting. Graphics are more subject to taste idk

30 FPS is playable as long as it is consistent, 60 FPS is of course preferable but all this "mustard race 60 FPS le mustardrace goldenfaec.jpg" shit is just ridiculous. Some people just can't afford the hardware to run 60 FPS and game devs are getting lazy with optimization so we have to settle for 30 FPS.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
March 23 2015 17:03 GMT
#21010
On March 24 2015 01:54 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 01:49 Shaella wrote:
I can't believe you guys are defending 30fps. Low fps is disgusting. Graphics are more subject to taste idk

30 FPS is playable as long as it is consistent, 60 FPS is of course preferable but all this "mustard race 60 FPS le mustardrace goldenfaec.jpg" shit is just ridiculous. Some people just can't afford the hardware to run 60 FPS and game devs are getting lazy with optimization so we have to settle for 30 FPS.


at least pc users can wait/hope for games written with dx12 or vulkan
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 23 2015 17:05 GMT
#21011
Honestly it's not that expensive to build a pc that rubs almost anything at 60fps
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 23 2015 17:06 GMT
#21012
On March 24 2015 02:05 Shaella wrote:
Honestly it's not that expensive to build a pc that rubs almost anything at 60fps

Does it cost more than $400?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
March 23 2015 17:10 GMT
#21013
On March 24 2015 02:05 Shaella wrote:
Honestly it's not that expensive to build a pc that rubs almost anything at 60fps

I don't know about that, it costs around $1000 here in Canada for a R9 280x/GTX 760 with a decent i5 combined with RAM, mobo, cooling, PSU, case, and hard drive. Not including in a monitor, KB+M and a SSD it gets pretty costly and that is usually considered a decent 1080p 60 FPS build.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
March 23 2015 17:11 GMT
#21014
On March 24 2015 01:52 Slomo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 01:49 Shaella wrote:
I can't believe you guys are defending 30fps. Low fps is disgusting. Graphics are more subject to taste idk

So is not having a borderless window mode in some RTS game.

not having borderless window makes hate a game so much.
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 23 2015 17:11 GMT
#21015
You don't need a $1000 PC to play games at a better quality than a console.

The issue with comparing prices is that the biggest diferent is the prices of games.
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
March 23 2015 17:12 GMT
#21016
On March 24 2015 02:06 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 02:05 Shaella wrote:
Honestly it's not that expensive to build a pc that rubs almost anything at 60fps

Does it cost more than $400?


If you already own a pc that's ~5 years old or newer, you can get a graphics card for 1080p60 for <200
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 17:14:44
March 23 2015 17:12 GMT
#21017
On March 24 2015 02:06 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 02:05 Shaella wrote:
Honestly it's not that expensive to build a pc that rubs almost anything at 60fps

Does it cost more than $400?

I could probably build a pc better than a ps4 for around 400 bux yeah

Like you can honestly slap a few years old card like an hd 6870 and an i5 and you'll preform

Granted you can also spend more on a pc than a console because the games are also cheaper
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
March 23 2015 17:13 GMT
#21018
I'm late to this discussion but I think locking 30fps is bullshit. You can make the default setting 30 fps to encompass a wide variety of hardware but you should always be able to run 60, 100, 500,000 if your system can handle it.

I remember the dark souls release on PC was fps locked among other silliness but luckily DSFix mod was released within a day that unlocked FPS and cleaned up some other PORT issues.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
March 23 2015 17:13 GMT
#21019
On March 24 2015 02:11 SKC wrote:
You don't need a $1000 PC to play games at a better quality than a console.

The issue with comparing prices is that the biggest diferent is the prices of games.


isn't console stuff insanely taxed in brazil?
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 17:19:22
March 23 2015 17:15 GMT
#21020
On March 24 2015 02:13 trifecta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 02:11 SKC wrote:
You don't need a $1000 PC to play games at a better quality than a console.

The issue with comparing prices is that the biggest diferent is the prices of games.


isn't console stuff insanely taxed in brazil?

I'm not talking about Brazil prices, but yeah. A PS4 costs like $1500 in official stores. You can buy them cheaper elsewhere of course. But a $1000 PC in NA would also cost more here. Just not as much as consoles because they are not only for recreational use or something.

The point was that you don't need a GTX 760, cooling, etc. to outperform a console by a good margin.
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