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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-05 11:09:53
November 05 2021 11:09 GMT
#209681
On November 05 2021 17:20 PoulsenB wrote:
Asking the dota gods here, I want to try and climb to 4k mmr, which aspects of the game should I be focusing on improving in order to reach that goal? Historically I floated around 2,3-2,5k mmr.

Broodmother
passive quaranstream fan
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
November 05 2021 14:18 GMT
#209682
Is there a resource somewhere for learning aoe4 build orders and general strategy? I never played the earlier AOEs but I'm having fun with the new one
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7763 Posts
November 05 2021 14:49 GMT
#209683
On November 05 2021 23:18 PassiveAce wrote:
Is there a resource somewhere for learning aoe4 build orders and general strategy? I never played the earlier AOEs but I'm having fun with the new one

look up a youtuber called "Spirit of the Law", he should have some stuff
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
November 05 2021 15:41 GMT
#209684
On November 05 2021 23:49 PoulsenB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2021 23:18 PassiveAce wrote:
Is there a resource somewhere for learning aoe4 build orders and general strategy? I never played the earlier AOEs but I'm having fun with the new one

look up a youtuber called "Spirit of the Law", he should have some stuff

hes a great resource for beginners, judging from his AoE2 stuff. Also super chill to watch.

the aoe4 meta is still evolving and we have to learn the counters to units a decent army composition. I'm super positive this hasn't happened yet.

I'd watch some theviper or other top leaderboard players in first person playing a civ i wanna learn as of now.
passive quaranstream fan
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
November 05 2021 20:04 GMT
#209685
On November 05 2021 17:20 PoulsenB wrote:
Asking the dota gods here, I want to try and climb to 4k mmr, which aspects of the game should I be focusing on improving in order to reach that goal? Historically I floated around 2,3-2,5k mmr.

My highest MMR was only 3.7k but I got some tips:
1) Play a fuckton. When pressing buttons becomes 2nd nature, you will have time to think what to actually do instead of autopiloting.
2) Watch replays when you don't understand things. How did they have vision, where was their obs, how did AM catch up in farm, etc.
3) Don't tilt. Push your ego aside.
4) Try to make sure your teammates won't tilt. No flaming, always protecting these manchildren, always communicat "my bad", even if it wasn't.
5) Pick a role/some heros and play those until you get good at them.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2844 Posts
November 05 2021 22:47 GMT
#209686
Whenever I cared about climbing mmr, it was basically only 6ish heroes in 2-3 roles I'd be looking to play, prioritized by what was strongest at the time, and what I'm most comfortable with. If I was starting right now, I'd be looking to play pos4/5 bane/enchantress, with pos5 CM or a small handful of pos3 as backup. Beyond that, it's setting yourself benchmarks for your progress (I.E. my lane should be around level X with around Y gold at 10 minutes) and checking to see what went wrong if your expectations are off, and understanding the game at large based on how your lanes are going / went. Make mental notes on how you expect things to go (Like "This Slark is gonna be a problem when he gets diffu") and then actually check back in on that mental note to see how well you understand the game.
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7763 Posts
November 06 2021 17:57 GMT
#209687
Thanks for all the advice guys
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
November 06 2021 18:20 GMT
#209688
play dota as if youre playing a rts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7763 Posts
November 06 2021 19:32 GMT
#209689
On November 07 2021 03:20 Erasme wrote:
play dota as if youre playing a rts

what do you mean?
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
November 06 2021 20:14 GMT
#209690
alone
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-06 21:41:18
November 06 2021 21:39 GMT
#209691
On November 07 2021 04:32 PoulsenB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2021 03:20 Erasme wrote:
play dota as if youre playing a rts

what do you mean?

think of your team as one player, camps/waves as minerals and heroes as ur units
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44311 Posts
November 07 2021 01:45 GMT
#209692
My friend just told me to play 1-3 heroes endlessly and one role. He was like divine and borderline immortal player on SEA

Stick to mastery apparently that's his way how he climbed mmr
this is a quote
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
November 07 2021 03:10 GMT
#209693
You don't see many good players running more than 4-5 heroes regularly right?
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44311 Posts
November 07 2021 04:53 GMT
#209694
Pros have huge heropools. I don't know any pros but people i know who hit divine like spammed a few heroes only (not that they can't play other heroes to some degree of decency) but they certainly climbed the ranks with a few heroes
this is a quote
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
November 07 2021 07:14 GMT
#209695
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7763 Posts
November 07 2021 08:40 GMT
#209696
So to sum up:
- spam a few selected heroes for a couple of roles
- play a lot
- think about gameplan/timings
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
November 07 2021 12:22 GMT
#209697
spamming heroes is how u get alot of mmr, not spamming heroes if how u get good at dota
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
November 07 2021 21:47 GMT
#209698
When it gets going, csgo is easily the best esport game to watch.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
November 07 2021 21:49 GMT
#209699
Jesus Christ, Boombi from Navi won a major and just asked her gf if she wants to marry him

Holy shit
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-08 10:47:42
November 08 2021 10:45 GMT
#209700
can anyone recommend a decent, cheapish (<50 quid) webcam for meetings?
microphone quality is irrelevant as I'm set up for that.

something along the lines of a logitech c920
passive quaranstream fan
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