EPT6.82 Balance Changes and Discussion Thread - Page 13
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
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NeoRussia
Canada381 Posts
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gulati
United States2241 Posts
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Archeon
3253 Posts
Tower gold and especially comeback mechanics and map change however are freaking huge. Take for example you are 20 k nw behind with 40 to 60k nw. Now you kill their most farmed hero, who is a naga with 20k nw with 5 people. You get overall (distributed over the team) 3k gold for your team (3/20th of his nw). If you add a beyond godlike streak we are talking about a 3.8k gold swing! This gets more extreme the more one team is ahead and less extreme the more nw you have. So I guess it's another nerf for push. Chen dragon push is gonna be awesome. Tp gets a big jay from me. Riki gets a big wtf from me. Also holy cow that bkb change. | ||
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rebdomine
6040 Posts
On September 24 2014 09:27 Gevna wrote: I dont get why IF had to kill tinker, slight nerfs would have been enough, even if I'm not sure it was needed at a competitive level. Well whatever just have to wait 10 patches of small buffs to have fun with him again. Still can't wait to try this patch. How is he "killed"? They hardly touched his laning. If anything they just made it so that losing your lane is unforgivable as you can't catch up by just farming ancients. He's still going to be a bitch to push into, he's still going to be a bitch to track down when he has his items up. He's in an okay spot right now. It's not like Tinker has difficulty winning mid. | ||
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Testuser
6469 Posts
Blood Seeker + Zeus + Natures Prophet. And a refresher on each of the heroes. Team wipe. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 24 2014 09:45 Blackfeather wrote: I dont think the rune change is big, it's mainly a consolation prize and an exchange for the bottle crow nerf (everyone gets their bottle recharge) It's not influential for mid, it's huge for other positions because the availability of an additional runes drastically improves the effectiveness of a team having a 2nd bottle carrier (roamer or off-lane). | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10655 Posts
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
One of the interesting changes is that Riki seems to be an offlane hero now. I guess it's debatable how useful he actually is when you get Force Staffs, but playing him like a C9 Bounty could work. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On September 24 2014 09:45 rebdomine wrote: How is he "killed"? They hardly touched his laning. If anything they just made it so that losing your lane is unforgivable as you can't catch up by just farming ancients. He's still going to be a bitch to push into, he's still going to be a bitch to track down when he has his items up. He's in an okay spot right now. It's not like Tinker has difficulty winning mid. Dagon nerf, Eblade nerf | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On September 24 2014 10:00 FuzzyJAM wrote: Patches seem to be getting bigger and bigger. Not sure I like how drastic this is. For all the whining, I feel 6.81 was great overall. One of the interesting changes is that Riki seems to be an offlane hero now. I guess it's debatable how useful he actually is when you get Force Staffs, but playing him like a C9 Bounty could work. Main weakness of offlane Riki would be that it's harder to CS and he can't really pull creeps, but his rune control would be godly. | ||
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Carwash
United States60 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
Can't farm Mud Golems, can't exploit the new rune system that well, etc. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On September 24 2014 10:14 Makro wrote: sneaky treant aghanim The Aghs ability was one of his old skills, wasn't it? | ||
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Aceace
Turkey1305 Posts
Btw MoM on Bear is huge. You can literaly demolish enemy towers. | ||
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PuroYO
Norway163 Posts
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Baozi
United States1191 Posts
> Well played! | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On September 24 2014 10:17 PuroYO wrote: That's it for me, Dota2 is no longer like DotA in any way what so ever, not the map(elevated fountain clearly for LoL purposes), not the damage types, not the runes, not the abilities, not the tower positions and not the ancients, nothing is like DotA any more, cba this. What? Pretty sure you are new to this. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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