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BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 08:55:47
July 20 2012 08:54 GMT
#14841
On July 20 2012 17:48 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 17:43 BlitzerSC wrote:
On July 20 2012 17:36 Qbek wrote:
On July 20 2012 17:34 BlitzerSC wrote:
On July 20 2012 17:28 [17]Purple wrote:
On July 20 2012 17:26 BlitzerSC wrote:
Do you guys can see refraction animation when TA is on the enemy team ? :|

iirc before the last patch I could see the refraction thing around her but now i can't anymore... bug ?


The refraction bubble was only visible to enemies when it was still in the test client, last patch only her team mates can see it.


That's BS then.

That's how it's supposed to be


Doesn't make it less BS. She tower dove me and killed me because I couldn't see her refraction animation. Why can you see invoker orbs but you can't see TA refraction ? That's stupid.


That's like saying I tried to gank Crystal Maiden but died cause' a Lifestealer was inside her and I could have never known. A lot of things in DotA are pretty subtle and the game expects you to know things a lot of the time and when TA dives your tower, expect her Refraction to be up or ready.


How can I tell if she is just trying to last hit or diving me. I CAN'T, but if I could see her refraction animation ( or at least the 2 buffs on her) I would be able to react properly. Still, I don't understand why you can see Invoker orbs and not the refraction.

On July 20 2012 17:48 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 17:43 BlitzerSC wrote:
On July 20 2012 17:36 Qbek wrote:
On July 20 2012 17:34 BlitzerSC wrote:
On July 20 2012 17:28 [17]Purple wrote:
On July 20 2012 17:26 BlitzerSC wrote:
Do you guys can see refraction animation when TA is on the enemy team ? :|

iirc before the last patch I could see the refraction thing around her but now i can't anymore... bug ?


The refraction bubble was only visible to enemies when it was still in the test client, last patch only her team mates can see it.


That's BS then.

That's how it's supposed to be


Doesn't make it less BS. She tower dove me and killed me because I couldn't see her refraction animation. Why can you see invoker orbs but you can't see TA refraction ? That's stupid.

Never could see them in DotA1 either. What I'm curious about is whether you could see the buff/debuff on her in DotA1 because they don't show now.


Maybe because there was no animation, as the guy above you said.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 09:00:13
July 20 2012 08:59 GMT
#14842
I don't know why you'd complain about not being able to see TA's refraction when like half the stuff in this game can jump you from longer than vision range.

As far as stuff that's hard to judge, TA's refraction hardly qualifies as the worst one.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 20 2012 09:22 GMT
#14843
You just click on the unit and see buffs. Same way you click to see mana.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
July 20 2012 09:53 GMT
#14844
On July 20 2012 18:22 Numy wrote:
You just click on the unit and see buffs. Same way you click to see mana.


Buffs are not visible.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
July 20 2012 10:06 GMT
#14845
Yeah the refraction buff not showing needs to be fixed imo.
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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
July 20 2012 11:16 GMT
#14846
How do you counter naga? If you don't have BKB then you can't kill her most of the time (ulti+tp too stronk), and it seems like she is actually a really good counter to BKB since you can focus them down but disable their team so they cant interfere, as well as entangle. Her laning doesn't seem particularly weak, so is there some weakness that I haven't seen yet?
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
July 20 2012 11:36 GMT
#14847
On July 20 2012 20:16 LAN-f34r wrote:
How do you counter naga? If you don't have BKB then you can't kill her most of the time (ulti+tp too stronk), and it seems like she is actually a really good counter to BKB since you can focus them down but disable their team so they cant interfere, as well as entangle. Her laning doesn't seem particularly weak, so is there some weakness that I haven't seen yet?

Kill her illusions. she relies on illusions to deal damage w/ diffusal. If you have strong aoe nukers (earthshaker, lina, invoker, etc) you can remove something like 60% of her dps.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
July 20 2012 11:38 GMT
#14848
Lion is especially good at killing illusions, his mana drain and hex instantly pop any illusions they hit.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
July 20 2012 11:43 GMT
#14849
OD all the way all week long. Killed a furi in 4hits. I mean, you kill everything in 4hits. And his laning is so strooooong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 20 2012 11:50 GMT
#14850
Bloodstone feels kinda imbalanced right now. Why did they give it 6 charges from the start? I remember it to be 1 stack in DotA. It feels like a snowball item now and some heroes profit way too much from that extra boost in midgame.
I haven't played many games of DotA II yet though.

Bloodstone has always been to strong/weak though. But 6 stacks seem overkill right now.
I had a good night of sleep.
Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
July 20 2012 11:55 GMT
#14851
On July 20 2012 20:50 Koshi wrote:
Bloodstone feels kinda imbalanced right now. Why did they give it 6 charges from the start? I remember it to be 1 stack in DotA. It feels like a snowball item now and some heroes profit way too much from that extra boost in midgame.
I haven't played many games of DotA II yet though.

Bloodstone has always been to strong/weak though. But 6 stacks seem overkill right now.


It no longer increases HP regen from extra stacks. Please read the description fully. It is nowhere near overkill.
Logic fails because we are lazy.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
July 20 2012 11:56 GMT
#14852
yeah bloodstone is one of the worst items in the game now lol
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 20 2012 12:10 GMT
#14853
On July 20 2012 20:16 LAN-f34r wrote:
How do you counter naga? If you don't have BKB then you can't kill her most of the time (ulti+tp too stronk), and it seems like she is actually a really good counter to BKB since you can focus them down but disable their team so they cant interfere, as well as entangle. Her laning doesn't seem particularly weak, so is there some weakness that I haven't seen yet?

keep track of the ulti cd. have lots of spells ready. she's not a top ban for no reason
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
July 20 2012 12:39 GMT
#14854
On July 20 2012 20:43 Erasme wrote:
OD all the way all week long. Killed a furi in 4hits. I mean, you kill everything in 4hits. And his laning is so strooooong

OD is like TA - you dominate, while the rest of your team feeds to all hell, then you can't outcarry the 3-5 enemy carries and it's over.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
July 20 2012 13:05 GMT
#14855
On July 20 2012 17:32 ChrisXIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 12:51 BurningSera wrote:
Is it just me that naga's model looks smaller than average hero??

Yeah she does, Lina looks bigger than her, and she doesn't even have a tail. And compared to Slardar...^^


ye lol i was like 'wtf'!!!! I was using Rubbick and naga's head is like half the size of my head rofl.

And seriously how can Naga share the same basic model with slardar but naga looks amazing while slardar still look like shit.....
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 13:08:28
July 20 2012 13:06 GMT
#14856
On July 20 2012 20:50 Koshi wrote:
Bloodstone feels kinda imbalanced right now. Why did they give it 6 charges from the start? I remember it to be 1 stack in DotA. It feels like a snowball item now and some heroes profit way too much from that extra boost in midgame.
I haven't played many games of DotA II yet though.

Bloodstone has always been to strong/weak though. But 6 stacks seem overkill right now.

Current bloodstone isn't OP at all, and it only really works on a few heroes. Like leshrac and storm spirit, i guess it could work on necrolyte as well.
Also naga is top tier pick, so yea, gud hero.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Resent
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia938 Posts
July 20 2012 13:10 GMT
#14857
OH man i hope to see some naga play in tonights games ^.^
Maggost
Profile Joined August 2011
Venezuela296 Posts
July 20 2012 13:24 GMT
#14858
It seems Dota 2 is not noob friendly like LoL, what can i do?

Suggested items for every hero seems to be bad for them, where i can find accurated items orders for every hero?
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 20 2012 13:32 GMT
#14859
I had so much fun as TA last night. Mid vs a Tinker who, I shit you not, stated all of these things upon me pressing q once he fired his rockets:

"WTF"
"Way to abuse a glitch"
"GJ playing a hero who takes no skill"
"Way to play an OP hero"

I love low level MM. So much fun.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
July 20 2012 13:42 GMT
#14860
On July 20 2012 22:24 Maggost wrote:
It seems Dota 2 is not noob friendly like LoL, what can i do?

Suggested items for every hero seems to be bad for them, where i can find accurated items orders for every hero?

There are no item orders for every hero.
Everything is situational bar a few core items(Like blink dagger on sand king, for example).
Best tip is watch good players play and learn from them, or play and learn from experience.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
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