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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 13:15:44
July 17 2012 13:15 GMT
#14621
well, I guess the teams who don't go to TI2 can go to that, Quantic, PB, Mouz(they are standby though so not sure about that), Keita so its not all that bad considering ESWC is in Paris so timezones won't conflict that much with TI2. Still not smart at all regardless.
WriterXiao8~~
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
July 17 2012 13:20 GMT
#14622
After TI2 I'm not sure whether I have the energy / time to watch another tournament..
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
July 17 2012 13:42 GMT
#14623
On July 17 2012 19:59 Attakijing wrote:
in this game: + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF6b-6o1iLs&list=UUpm6ntkYMC-XcwpMyRJDDYA&index=3&feature=plpp_video
aL does a weird strategy where they double jungle their ancients as ursa and skeleton king. is it possible to adapt this to a pubstomp strat? do ancients really give that much xp?

yes. consistent accient farming (1 camp per min) could give you more exp than going long lane and probably much safer. Plus if ward stuff right, you can sneak into rosh anytime without enemy knowing bc it requires them to be constantly checking it. In pub i often lane huskar until Mask of death (morbid mask?) then head into jungle and still get more EXP than most people on the map. In competitive game this have been done by Next KZ before with wisp ursa.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
July 17 2012 13:47 GMT
#14624
The ESWC NA qualifiers finals, played at PAX, will conflict with the International and not the Grandfinals, which are from November 1st to 4th, according to their site. Therefore only EG and col are affected by this.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
July 17 2012 14:23 GMT
#14625
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-07-17-the-dota-2-experience-part-two

Part two of the article, it's really well written!
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
July 17 2012 16:45 GMT
#14626
On July 17 2012 22:47 maze. wrote:
The ESWC NA qualifiers finals, played at PAX, will conflict with the International and not the Grandfinals, which are from November 1st to 4th, according to their site. Therefore only EG and col are affected by this.


Thanks for correcting.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
July 17 2012 16:46 GMT
#14627
Can Eg even play in NA qualifier with a danish player?
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 17:28:07
July 17 2012 17:11 GMT
#14628
So I have what seems to be a pretty huge problem recently. First off lets start with me saying I quit smoking cigarettes little over a week ago, so that has already put me on edge slightly, but to the main point.......

Every single day I play dota for the past few weeks now, the game will start with the exact same situation. I suggest some lanes to people and what the starting plan is, and instantly somebody on the team begins to rage at me and tell me to stfu and 100% ignore anything I have to say from then on. They generally proceed to feed first blood, and then continue to make retarded plays all game while constantly blaming everything on the rest of the team. Wards are nonexistant and if I want a crow as mid I've had to buy it myself near 100% of the time, if I want wards for early rune control I generally must buy them myself, and then continue to keep buying them all game cause nobody else ever does. What this leads to is me just amoving down lanes, getting killed, not giving a fuck, and continuing, all while trying to figure out wtf the people are on my are doing.


It's just horrible......and I realize that many many many of the games we prolly could have won, if I could just care about the game. But as soon as somebody on my team is just blatantly ignorant and stupid and refuses to listen/take advice/say "my bad I fucked up"/anything at all, I just completely lose any will to even try and play the game.

What do?


EDIT: I just wanted to put this example in. Me and my buddy queue up last night, it's us and a 3 man group. 1 of the 3 man group has played CM past many pages, and seems to play support for her boyfriend who plays pretty much nothing but morphling. My buddy at the very start of the game highlights PA, being his favorite hero, but the BF/GF pair give no fucks about that and sit there with nothign selected until 10 seconds from game start. Dude then cycles through all the hard carries you can think of and picks morph. I decide to just play furion cause why not?

The CM morph pair go top, I go mid, the other guy picks Tide and goes bot with PA, all is actually fine and dandy at the start. We get kills, I get 8 minute hand of midas, PA gets 14 minute Bfury, top has died a few times but seems ok. Then I notice it's 17 minutes into the game, and CM has tranquil boots and almost a bracer, and hasnt uped the courier OR bought a single pair of wards, and morph seems to be trying go for shotgun first, but is farming terribly. I try to gank up top 3 or 4 times by using ulti--->tp top lane with pings and warning over voice that I was comign up. Every single time morph decided to run away from people with less than 150 hp when all three of us were still alive and he had around half hp, but had no mana........

In the end, CM bought at MOST 2 sets of wards in a 40+ minute long game, 0 sentry, and I uped the courier, morphling went shotgun first, and finished it about 30 minutes in at which point he could succesfully go kill silencer after he got his ult off, and proceed to die.


Don't even get me started on the tidehunter that landed a SINGLE ravage in a 40-50 minute long game, and would do things like see that me and PA were going to save mid tower, we had 5 there, they had 4. void ults and gets me and PA in his ult along with some of his own team. Tide is right next to the void ulti when it goes up, but instead of popping ravage to stop void from killing us, and then running around to anchor smash him with morph coming around the other way to rape them, all three just run away and leave us to die. That kinda shit happened frequently.

Also apparently getting a shadow blade on Furion when your team keeps getting into terrible terrible engagements is bad says the pro morph. Oh, and to top it all off I ask over voice like 15 minutes into the game sitting in the well with the money to straight up buy a mek, "hey CM, you going for mek this game?" she responds "kk". At the very end of the game morph tried to bitch me out for not getting a mek...........

But seriously, how the fuck do I manage to keep playing when people on my team do this shit, and call me and PA the noobs?
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
July 17 2012 17:23 GMT
#14629
On July 18 2012 02:11 N3rV[Green] wrote:
So I have what seems to be a pretty huge problem recently. First off lets start with me saying I quit smoking cigarettes little over a week ago, so that has already put me on edge slightly, but to the main point.......

Every single day I play dota for the past few weeks now, the game will start with the exact same situation. I suggest some lanes to people and what the starting plan is, and instantly somebody on the team begins to rage at me and tell me to stfu and 100% ignore anything I have to say from then on. They generally proceed to feed first blood, and then continue to make retarded plays all game while constantly blaming everything on the rest of the team. Wards are nonexistant and if I want a crow as mid I've had to buy it myself near 100% of the time, if I want wards for early rune control I generally must buy them myself, and then continue to keep buying them all game cause nobody else ever does. What this leads to is me just amoving down lanes, getting killed, not giving a fuck, and continuing, all while trying to figure out wtf the people are on my are doing.


It's just horrible......and I realize that many many many of the games we prolly could have won, if I could just care about the game. But as soon as somebody on my team is just blatantly ignorant and stupid and refuses to listen/take advice/say "my bad I fucked up"/anything at all, I just completely lose any will to even try and play the game.

What do?


I really think that people will eventually hit a breaking point solo queing and will find much more fun playing with people they know.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
xsevR
Profile Joined January 2011
United States324 Posts
July 17 2012 17:59 GMT
#14630
On July 18 2012 02:23 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 02:11 N3rV[Green] wrote:
So I have what seems to be a pretty huge problem recently. First off lets start with me saying I quit smoking cigarettes little over a week ago, so that has already put me on edge slightly, but to the main point.......

Every single day I play dota for the past few weeks now, the game will start with the exact same situation. I suggest some lanes to people and what the starting plan is, and instantly somebody on the team begins to rage at me and tell me to stfu and 100% ignore anything I have to say from then on. They generally proceed to feed first blood, and then continue to make retarded plays all game while constantly blaming everything on the rest of the team. Wards are nonexistant and if I want a crow as mid I've had to buy it myself near 100% of the time, if I want wards for early rune control I generally must buy them myself, and then continue to keep buying them all game cause nobody else ever does. What this leads to is me just amoving down lanes, getting killed, not giving a fuck, and continuing, all while trying to figure out wtf the people are on my are doing.


It's just horrible......and I realize that many many many of the games we prolly could have won, if I could just care about the game. But as soon as somebody on my team is just blatantly ignorant and stupid and refuses to listen/take advice/say "my bad I fucked up"/anything at all, I just completely lose any will to even try and play the game.

What do?


I really think that people will eventually hit a breaking point solo queing and will find much more fun playing with people they know.


I've solely solo-queued ~ 500 games in DOTA 2 (I leave -ap, -rd, -sd selected). For every awesome game, there's a terrible one.

General Advice: I've never enabled voice chat. Sure, I might miss out on some information, but mostly I miss out on teenage-rage. If you aren't playing with people you know, you might consider this. The side-effect is that it helps map awareness because you aren't relying on anyone else.

Similarly I use mute judiciously. As soon as my team begins raging, they're muted. You don't really miss much from the chat, and like above, it can even help your map awareness.

I leave the TV or some music on while playing. When the game is hopeless ( I don't give up easily), or I don't have much to do in my particular role (teamfight in base, die, teamfight in base die, etc.), I half-afk and watch TV. It's much more relaxing than analyzing teammates or getting upset over a losing game.

Basically, you aren't going to coach or lead a team of strangers to victory. Work on skills, make fun plays, and don't take it too seriously when you lose. I originally quit playing dota because my group of friends began to put eachother down for the smallest of mistakes, and really raged for no reason (we never had problems pub stomping-- it would just be a bunch of flaming eachother as we killed their ancient -.-) With the right attitude, solo-queuing dota2 can be fun regardless of teammates.
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 18:41:40
July 17 2012 18:39 GMT
#14631
Just played the most epic game of my life. So the game starts and I random Alchemist..... I am playing with my noob friend. I told him to pick Drow because she is a very easy hero to play really ;p

At the time that the sidelanes have hit level 6(we have no jungler) the SK pauses and says that he will reconnect, he does however 5 minutes later he says the same thing and he never reconnects... we are playing 4v5 and I am feeding on alchemist. At the 25 minute mark we manage to claim our first t1 tower while the enemy has killed all 3 of ours :'( Phantom Lancer is really fed!
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


At 65 minutes my noob friend falls to an untimely fate. He must eat ;p so he goes away while I have told him to AFK around the tower so that he looks menacing ;p I didn't want to risk using shared control incase I died on him and then he has another 100 seconds to wait.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Rejoice! my friend is back and we kill their rax!
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


We sacrifice the lives of each of the noble warriors on our team(except SK fuck that guy) in order to kill all three of their rax and get mega creeps!
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


At the astounding time of 89 minutes we wrap up the game.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I think that I accidently booted up "Dota 2: Chinese Edition" rather than Dota 2!
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
July 17 2012 19:22 GMT
#14632
Ok it's official now, Dota 2 at WCG.

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/news/20296-dota-2-and-sc2-confirmed-as-wcg-games
http://www.wcg-europe.com/de/news/29139.htm (German)
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 19:32:36
July 17 2012 19:31 GMT
#14633
Nice logic
If you win the wcg qualifier in cologne, you get a free trip to SEE in cologne one day later.

Also they said that only team with 51% germans(so basically 3 players) can participate, which like no team has.
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
July 17 2012 21:29 GMT
#14634
On July 18 2012 04:31 Yoshi- wrote:
Nice logic
If you win the wcg qualifier in cologne, you get a free trip to SEE in cologne one day later.


Sounds like a sweet deal.
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
Shichibukai
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden355 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 22:25:18
July 17 2012 22:24 GMT
#14635
Heh, I'm totally new to Dota 2 and just finished my 4th game (versus bots, of course).
First one I was struggling to learn the controls, second and third I had my own team's bots set to a higher skill level than the opponent's, so I didn't have to contribute much. Fourth game I decided it was time to challenge the [Easy] bots! Side note: Chaos Knight bot is frickin evil. o_O

Anyway, I randomed Bloodseeker and had a really long back and forth game, with them taking my middle rax super early, and getting my ancient down to 1/4 health. After 78 nervewrecking minutes, and tons of surprise ganks from that evil CK (and Tiny) my team finally succeded. I've watched a ton of casts and vods, but now being able to jump in and play for myself is just amazing. This game is fantastic. :D

Celebration picture:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

http://imgur.com/1MDVd if it fails to load


Now to challenge the [Normal] ones. D:
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
July 17 2012 23:24 GMT
#14636
Congrats. Bloodseeker certainly isn't easy to start off with.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
July 18 2012 00:38 GMT
#14637
server broke?
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
July 18 2012 00:39 GMT
#14638
Yeah, stuck at Connecting to the Dota 2 Network here
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
July 18 2012 01:36 GMT
#14639
Been so busy, finally been able to play TA in a game! Holy shit it was rough at first but once I started to get my groove, everything just felt so good. I just freaking love that hero! So much fun to dodge shit with meld/refract, keep traps in clever places, and just be a boss. Such a high skill cap hero. Think im going to try a 50-game spree of nothing but her. That will whip me into shape.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
neurosx
Profile Joined August 2011
Luxembourg1096 Posts
July 18 2012 01:57 GMT
#14640
Man Lanaya is SO hard to play against mid if you don't have a natural counter .. it really is a nightmare =_=
You'll wish I'd never stooped to notice you.
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