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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 12 2012 08:29 GMT
#14361
On July 12 2012 17:29 zeehar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 17:21 Qbek wrote:
On July 12 2012 17:11 zeehar wrote:
On July 12 2012 16:42 Hoban wrote:
Yea her trap hotkey doesn't work yet. Still, what an amazing hero. Medallion is all you need to crunch fools.

As for skilling, I really like E/W/W/Q/W/R/W/E/E/E/R generally because the added attack range gives you the ability to position well in team fights, Meld is just your crush noobs skill, and Q is useful but more than one point is useful only in rare circumstances.

As for items, Medallion for the regen, then phase, blink/bkb/drums depending on how good/poor you are doing, then crit. Blink isn't core if you have good disables/initiation.


how do you use meld in the lanes combined with medallion? do you medallion, meld behind creep line and then attack when they get close?

Detonate trap, RUN IN AND RAPE. You won't have medallion much before level 6, so where's the issue?


i was just asking since i've never played lanaya before lol and i have no idea what to do (in test client)

I played her a lot and trust me, that's what you do
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Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
July 12 2012 08:34 GMT
#14362
Well her W is absolutely ridiculous. It is a ton of -armor, and a huge amount of damage (improved by the -armor). Combined with medallion and her ult slow, heroes without escapes just die. Just try ganking a wisp in lane one time. I guarantee lvl 7 Lanaya vs lvl 4/5 wisp, you will almost one-shot them with meld+strike.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 08:37:39
July 12 2012 08:36 GMT
#14363
On July 12 2012 17:34 Hoban wrote:
Well her W is absolutely ridiculous. It is a ton of -armor, and a huge amount of damage (improved by the -armor). Combined with medallion and her ult slow, heroes without escapes just die. Just try ganking a wisp in lane one time. I guarantee lvl 7 Lanaya vs lvl 4/5 wisp, you will almost one-shot them with meld+strike.


thank you both! also, trap placement - do you just place them pretty much whenever the CD is up? they're super cheap and invis too

edit: nvm i just saw the max traps limit
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
July 12 2012 08:37 GMT
#14364
Ofc you never max meld before her other 2 skills, you only take one level of it
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 12 2012 08:43 GMT
#14365
On July 12 2012 17:36 zeehar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 17:34 Hoban wrote:
Well her W is absolutely ridiculous. It is a ton of -armor, and a huge amount of damage (improved by the -armor). Combined with medallion and her ult slow, heroes without escapes just die. Just try ganking a wisp in lane one time. I guarantee lvl 7 Lanaya vs lvl 4/5 wisp, you will almost one-shot them with meld+strike.


thank you both! also, trap placement - do you just place them pretty much whenever the CD is up? they're super cheap and invis too

Use the as wards. One on the most obvious gank route, one on each of rune spots (give control to allies if you can't handle them), gank globally ! General rule is, you have one trap ready for immediate use, 2 on runepots and rest in random places where enemies may be.

A short story to show how you use traps well
I was laning top as sentinel(radiant), put my very fisrt trap in the jungle to spot for ganks. 40 minutes later I farm top and a trap spots a gank squad for me. I realize it's my first trap ever, go "NOSTALGIA ;_;" and live happily ever after.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 12 2012 08:45 GMT
#14366
On July 12 2012 17:37 Yoshi- wrote:
Ofc you never max meld before her other 2 skills, you only take one level of it

I always max meld first, -8 armor >rest. Lanaya's skill builds vary depending on play styles and what the enemies are capable of doing, don't ever deal in absolutes with her
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
July 12 2012 08:50 GMT
#14367
Meld without high range is kinda meh.

Refraction gives you 80 extra damage for 5 hits, way more than meld and the damage block is ofc also really huge.
The minus armor from meld doesn't really matter tbh, because most TA get a medaillon and since negative armor values scale horrible, the -8 armor from meld is not that useful early on, only when people have more armor anyway.
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
July 12 2012 09:01 GMT
#14368
I can see the maxing Q. Tbh it has been so long since I have played her, I am going to do nothing but autopick her for the next 50 or so games. It will give me time to figure things out again. Still, the one hero I have been most excited for.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
July 12 2012 09:04 GMT
#14369
LOL Just finished a game where my team had mid and bottom lane raxes down and I, as Furion, was able to turn the match around. I lol'd

Furion too stronk.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 12 2012 09:04 GMT
#14370
I'll give you my build for reference

Qbek's Lanaya build . Copyright Qbek since 2009

Skills
1. Meld/psi blades
2.psi blades/meld
3.Psi blades
4.meld/refraction
5.refraction/meld
6. Traps
7.Meld
8.Meld
9.refraction
10.refraction
11.traps
12.psi blades
13.refraction
14.psiblades
15.stats
16.traps

You'd be surprised how often I follow it very strictly, ofc I switch it around freely if the game calls for it.

Items: Core: Vanguard, Treads
Follow up: Any of these: Deso, Blink dagger, Mkb, Crit, hot, Buttterfly

This build is Old school/ I don't take any criticism so don't bother
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 09:08:08
July 12 2012 09:05 GMT
#14371
I'm a fan of deso before crit on her. Not sure why you would do things the other way.

I get psiblades at lvl1, then max meld. I get one level of refraction early in some situations, otherwise I get psiblades up to lvl 3 before maxing refraction. Medallion into deso into crit. Blink is nice but not too necessary imo.
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Shraft
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden701 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 09:36:18
July 12 2012 09:31 GMT
#14372
Don't ever get Vanguard on Lanaya. It is just horrible.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 12 2012 09:34 GMT
#14373
Proc vanguard - creeps don't proc refraction
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Shraft
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden701 Posts
July 12 2012 09:37 GMT
#14374
Not worth spending your gold on Vanguard when you could buy a Blink Dagger instead.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
July 12 2012 09:38 GMT
#14375
Most pro games tend to go
Core - Bottle, wand, phase and blink dagger
Follow up - Desolator, bkb and insert situational dps item here.

Really can't wait to play her, watched so much of her in diesmilling's highlight vids.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
July 12 2012 09:41 GMT
#14376
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found young brew master while surfing the web
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
July 12 2012 10:38 GMT
#14377
Just played a game where the enemy Antimage starts the game by saying "Fuck you Zeus! Spell are for nerds!"

Made my day.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
July 12 2012 11:33 GMT
#14378
I really like linkens when playing lanaya, myself.
But that's a very personal preference.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
July 12 2012 11:38 GMT
#14379
On July 12 2012 18:38 Benjef wrote:
Most pro games tend to go
Core - Bottle, wand, phase and blink dagger
Follow up - Desolator, bkb and insert situational dps item here.

Really can't wait to play her, watched so much of her in diesmilling's highlight vids.

If you're going to go blink dagger you need some hp, in which case I'd go treads instead of phase.

I know blink is fun as hell but I still think using that 2150 gold for faster deso is more useful imo.
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cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 11:39:47
July 12 2012 11:38 GMT
#14380
I think bkb is superior in every way

well except for the regen but thats why you get bottle
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