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Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 15:01:18
July 08 2012 14:53 GMT
#14141
On July 08 2012 23:12 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 23:00 Garnet wrote:
I just noticed WR and Mirana have VERY similar skillset (except for their ultimate).

Wind runner has: A line 'skill shot' AOE that deals less damage for each target it hits.
Mirana has an AOE around her with the chance to hit an extra target.

Wind runner has: A disable that requires you to latch onto something behind the original target, and it's targetable.
Mirana has: A disable that is a skill shot and stuns longer the further it travels, it's not targetable.

Wind runner has: A skill that speeds her up and gives her a 100% miss rate while slowing enemies behind her down.
Mirana has: A leap that speeds up herself and allies around where she lands.


Sorry, i'm not seeing it :[
Unless you mean disable+AOE+escape/gap-closer, but there's a lot of heroes with a kit like that.

I'd put it this way:

Both have an aoe-spell that deals the MORE DAMAGE IN A 1ON1 SITUATION.

Both have a stun with a VARIABLE DURATION depending on how you hit the target.

Both have an escape mechanism that ALSO has an AOE-EFFECT on use.

Ults are completely different obviously. But what other heroes have skills with the bolded aspects, yet alone more than one of them?
edit: To the post below this: I wanted to say that I think they have similar skills, but not that they are no other similar heroes.
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
July 08 2012 14:54 GMT
#14142
On July 08 2012 23:53 Mafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 23:12 Unleashing wrote:
On July 08 2012 23:00 Garnet wrote:
I just noticed WR and Mirana have VERY similar skillset (except for their ultimate).

Wind runner has: A line 'skill shot' AOE that deals less damage for each target it hits.
Mirana has an AOE around her with the chance to hit an extra target.

Wind runner has: A disable that requires you to latch onto something behind the original target, and it's targetable.
Mirana has: A disable that is a skill shot and stuns longer the further it travels, it's not targetable.

Wind runner has: A skill that speeds her up and gives her a 100% miss rate while slowing enemies behind her down.
Mirana has: A leap that speeds up herself and allies around where she lands.


Sorry, i'm not seeing it :[
Unless you mean disable+AOE+escape/gap-closer, but there's a lot of heroes with a kit like that.

I'd put it this way:

Both have an aoe-spell that deals the MORE DAMAGE IN A 1ON1 SITUATION.

Both have a stun with a VARIABLE DURATION depending on how you hit the target.

Both have an escape mechanism that ALSO has an AOE-EFFECT on use.

Ults are completely different obviously. But what other heroes have skills with the bolded aspects, yet alone more of one them?

Sven and skeleton king. Very similar too. CK and PA. Need any more examples?
=Þ
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
July 08 2012 14:55 GMT
#14143
On July 08 2012 23:53 Mafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 23:12 Unleashing wrote:
On July 08 2012 23:00 Garnet wrote:
I just noticed WR and Mirana have VERY similar skillset (except for their ultimate).

Wind runner has: A line 'skill shot' AOE that deals less damage for each target it hits.
Mirana has an AOE around her with the chance to hit an extra target.

Wind runner has: A disable that requires you to latch onto something behind the original target, and it's targetable.
Mirana has: A disable that is a skill shot and stuns longer the further it travels, it's not targetable.

Wind runner has: A skill that speeds her up and gives her a 100% miss rate while slowing enemies behind her down.
Mirana has: A leap that speeds up herself and allies around where she lands.


Sorry, i'm not seeing it :[
Unless you mean disable+AOE+escape/gap-closer, but there's a lot of heroes with a kit like that.

I'd put it this way:

Both have an aoe-spell that deals the MORE DAMAGE IN A 1ON1 SITUATION.

Both have a stun with a VARIABLE DURATION depending on how you hit the target.

Both have an escape mechanism that ALSO has an AOE-EFFECT on use.

Ults are completely different obviously. But what other heroes have skills with the bolded aspects, yet alone more than one of them?


Storm Spirit
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
July 08 2012 15:04 GMT
#14144
Actually it's widely recognised that WR and POTM have very similar roles in a team.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 15:08:22
July 08 2012 15:07 GMT
#14145
On July 09 2012 00:04 Firebolt145 wrote:
Actually it's widely recognised that WR and POTM have very similar roles in a team.

Similar roles =/= Similar skill kits.
I don't think their kits are similar.

Also, invoker has all 3 things as well.
Sunstrike, cold snap and ghost walk.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 08 2012 15:08 GMT
#14146
On July 09 2012 00:04 Firebolt145 wrote:
Actually it's widely recognised that WR and POTM have very similar roles in a team.

The difference is ofc one is INT and other AGI, but the roles they fulfill is pretty similar: antipush, hard to gank, unreliable but very long stun.

Let's end this here coz this argument is really useless
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
July 08 2012 15:09 GMT
#14147
Oh comeon you gotta agree that POTM and WR have more similarieties than Invoker and POTM
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
July 08 2012 15:11 GMT
#14148
Just wanted to share a game that i felt was really great

match id: 23287946

me, kiett, lovedrop and flamewheel + 1 random pub playing against radiant, we get owned for like 50+ minutes, but we dont give up. watch the last 10 minutes or so if you want to see the highlight part... but man, 2 teamfights to turn around a nearly lost game. i love dota.
POGGERS
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
July 08 2012 15:16 GMT
#14149
On July 09 2012 00:09 Yoshi- wrote:
Oh comeon you gotta agree that POTM and WR have more similarieties than Invoker and POTM

That's not what i said. I just said he theoretically has that kit too.
I just don't think their kits are as similar as some people do, it's just a clash of opinion, it's not like i'm saying others are wrong for thinking differently, thus why i said that I DON'T THINK THEY ARE SIMILAR, instead of THEY AREN'T SIMILAR.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
July 08 2012 15:21 GMT
#14150
Imo wr and potm are quite similiar
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 08 2012 15:28 GMT
#14151
They both have a bow

end of story.
WriterXiao8~~
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 08 2012 15:28 GMT
#14152
On July 09 2012 00:28 Kipsate wrote:
They both have a bow

end of story.

Let's bow out now
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
July 08 2012 15:29 GMT
#14153
wr is hotter than potm
POGGERS
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
July 08 2012 15:35 GMT
#14154
On July 09 2012 00:29 konadora wrote:
wr is hotter than potm

She's cuter, but not hotter.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
July 08 2012 15:36 GMT
#14155
Gingers are always hotter
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
July 08 2012 15:48 GMT
#14156
potm is windrunners ugly friend, you better have a loyal wingman

so no, they are not similar
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
July 08 2012 15:56 GMT
#14157
I miss my blondie wr and i have to admit that mirana is ugly in dota2

I always thought wr is a potm clone because potm was always the first ban so IF was forced to make wr xD

Mirana as a hero > wr anyday for me. Why? Because her ulti is ulti of many rape.

I miss my white tiger with big ass
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
July 08 2012 16:04 GMT
#14158
i love luna's voice

it's very mystical and sexy
POGGERS
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
July 08 2012 16:08 GMT
#14159
On July 09 2012 01:04 konadora wrote:
i love luna's voice

it's very mystical and sexy


it's very irish

or bad scottish according to some people with better knowledge than i do
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
July 08 2012 16:13 GMT
#14160
On July 09 2012 01:08 zeehar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 01:04 konadora wrote:
i love luna's voice

it's very mystical and sexy


it's very irish

or bad scottish according to some people with better knowledge than i do


are people seriously still arguing about luna's accent
ffxiv enjoyer
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