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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 06 2012 06:43 GMT
#14021
On July 06 2012 15:19 danielimotbh wrote:
So I always have this habit of discovering how good heroes are after thinking they weren't that great in DotA 1. It was probably my lack of skill back then, but heroes like Undying, now that I've had what I think is a great game with him, are really good after being able to play him again. How does he fit into the competitive scene, is he commonly picked up? Because it just seems like he has alot which synergizes with the current meta game.

He has some cute utility in some scenarios that make him a solid niche pick, but his lack of AoE, hard disables, or lategame carry potential mean that he doesn't really have the fundamentals.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
July 06 2012 07:00 GMT
#14022
On July 06 2012 15:43 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 15:19 danielimotbh wrote:
So I always have this habit of discovering how good heroes are after thinking they weren't that great in DotA 1. It was probably my lack of skill back then, but heroes like Undying, now that I've had what I think is a great game with him, are really good after being able to play him again. How does he fit into the competitive scene, is he commonly picked up? Because it just seems like he has alot which synergizes with the current meta game.

He has some cute utility in some scenarios that make him a solid niche pick, but his lack of AoE, hard disables, or lategame carry potential mean that he doesn't really have the fundamentals.

he's a pretty decent pull jungler provided you have good supports supports and a hard carry as your lineup.

SD Sandking Morph Lesh Undying or the like.

though one would easily argue that the other 4 are the ones doing all the work and that lineup would do well with an enigma instead of the undying.
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
July 06 2012 07:18 GMT
#14023
Yesterday I was playing with some old dota1 friends, who are too lazy to sign up for a beta key. But maan, now I want skywrath mage!!!! Also, I picked up like 4 runes instead of bottling them because I was so used to just right clicking it! Goddamn you dota2!!!!
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 06 2012 07:29 GMT
#14024
I remember that I had trouble bottling a rune when I first got my beta key lol.
WriterXiao8~~
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
July 06 2012 07:32 GMT
#14025
Holy crap death prophet is hilarious against squishy people who don't know how to deal with her. Just activate ult, hug them, and watch them die esp at lvl 3 ult for endless fun.
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 06 2012 07:38 GMT
#14026
On July 06 2012 15:43 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 15:19 danielimotbh wrote:
So I always have this habit of discovering how good heroes are after thinking they weren't that great in DotA 1. It was probably my lack of skill back then, but heroes like Undying, now that I've had what I think is a great game with him, are really good after being able to play him again. How does he fit into the competitive scene, is he commonly picked up? Because it just seems like he has alot which synergizes with the current meta game.

He has some cute utility in some scenarios that make him a solid niche pick, but his lack of AoE, hard disables, or lategame carry potential mean that he doesn't really have the fundamentals.

He's basically a cheese hero.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
July 06 2012 07:38 GMT
#14027
On July 06 2012 16:29 Kipsate wrote:
I remember that I had trouble bottling a rune when I first got my beta key lol.

my very first game of dota2 i couldn't figure out how to buy from the shop lol. and then my first time mid i kept trying to bottle runes the old way of using the bottle on the rune.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
July 06 2012 08:13 GMT
#14028
Just noticed they added a Russian server... AAAAAAAAWWWWW YEAHHH.

Finally.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
July 06 2012 08:17 GMT
#14029
On July 06 2012 16:38 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 15:43 TheYango wrote:
On July 06 2012 15:19 danielimotbh wrote:
So I always have this habit of discovering how good heroes are after thinking they weren't that great in DotA 1. It was probably my lack of skill back then, but heroes like Undying, now that I've had what I think is a great game with him, are really good after being able to play him again. How does he fit into the competitive scene, is he commonly picked up? Because it just seems like he has alot which synergizes with the current meta game.

He has some cute utility in some scenarios that make him a solid niche pick, but his lack of AoE, hard disables, or lategame carry potential mean that he doesn't really have the fundamentals.

He's basically a cheese hero.


Here's undying used in a pro game. It's in DotA between 2 Russian teams, OSI and M5 (not pgg. it was G, NS, AA, Dread, Santa). It's one of the best games I have ever seen, I really recommend watching it, don't want to spoil anything, but there are some very surprising moments.
super gg
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
July 06 2012 08:53 GMT
#14030
On July 06 2012 16:38 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 16:29 Kipsate wrote:
I remember that I had trouble bottling a rune when I first got my beta key lol.

my very first game of dota2 i couldn't figure out how to buy from the shop lol. and then my first time mid i kept trying to bottle runes the old way of using the bottle on the rune.


Yeah, I had to watch fp streams to figure it out too
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
July 06 2012 10:03 GMT
#14031
On July 06 2012 16:29 Kipsate wrote:
I remember that I had trouble bottling a rune when I first got my beta key lol.


I remember Yango telling me all excited that Chinese pro xy plays DotA and we can watch his replays. (Was it Burning?) We proceeded to do so and then he danced around a rune for literally three minutes trying to figure out how to pick it up.

Later on in the game he went afk and killed someone in the meantime. Best.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
July 06 2012 10:17 GMT
#14032
On July 06 2012 19:03 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 16:29 Kipsate wrote:
I remember that I had trouble bottling a rune when I first got my beta key lol.


I remember Yango telling me all excited that Chinese pro xy plays DotA and we can watch his replays. (Was it Burning?) We proceeded to do so and then he danced around a rune for literally three minutes trying to figure out how to pick it up.

Later on in the game he went afk and killed someone in the meantime. Best.

well as long as the chinese players did it first i can claim i was just copying their bottling rune strategy.
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
July 06 2012 10:35 GMT
#14033
I get the ban notification every week now, I really play with the biggest assholes on the planet. Oh well ^_^
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
July 06 2012 10:39 GMT
#14034
You're getting banned every week? I'm pretty sure it's not just the other players being the "biggest assholes on the planet"...
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
July 06 2012 10:42 GMT
#14035
On July 06 2012 19:39 ahswtini wrote:
You're getting banned every week? I'm pretty sure it's not just the other players being the "biggest assholes on the planet"...

That's not what he means.
When you report someone valve will notify you if they took action against them, i'm getting that message often as well, i report quite often also.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
July 06 2012 10:45 GMT
#14036
Honestly that does sound like you do something at least.
I doubt anyone would report you enough that you get this message once a week without you doing something :D


I have never seen it myself and does rarely report though I have.
"Yeah buddy"
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
July 06 2012 10:57 GMT
#14037
Ah okay, apologies.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 06 2012 11:14 GMT
#14038
Undying has such a good feel as a hero :D Tombstone in the middle of a teamfight and it's like a zombie apocalypse xD
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
July 06 2012 11:16 GMT
#14039
On July 06 2012 20:14 Qbek wrote:
Undying has such a good feel as a hero :D Tombstone in the middle of a teamfight and it's like a zombie apocalypse xD


He is fantastic at lasthitting creeps, high base dmg and good animation.

But mid and lategame I just can't figure out what I am supposed to do, no hard disable and not that much dmg :/
"Yeah buddy"
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 11:19:57
July 06 2012 11:19 GMT
#14040
On July 06 2012 20:16 Ramong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 20:14 Qbek wrote:
Undying has such a good feel as a hero :D Tombstone in the middle of a teamfight and it's like a zombie apocalypse xD


He is fantastic at lasthitting creeps, high base dmg and good animation.

But mid and lategame I just can't figure out what I am supposed to do, no hard disable and not that much dmg :/

Just spam everything you have and focus on being close to the enemy team with your ulti that amps damage. Decay gets really strong with 4 sec cd and big aoe, if you hit two enemies every time its MASSIVE damage. Also get items like pipe and shiva and you're good
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
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