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On July 06 2012 01:07 ChrisXIV wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 00:59 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 06 2012 00:01 ROOTBlitz wrote:
I would murderbutt someone for some storm cosmetics. Valve should have told Blizz to fuck off and make Storm a panda TT pretty sure the no panda thing is more due to China not Blizz iirc Wait...how do they play Dota in China when that's the problem?
pirated copies+what kdgns said makes sense too
and I'm not sure if it's completely illegal to have pandas in games, but I do know that China definitely frowns on the depiction of protected species (like pandas) in violent scenarios. multiple companies have had to change things to get around it, like Anet (GW). So while it may not be illegal, it's definitely frowned upon/offensive to the Chinese government. Gaming companies have always gone out of their way to avoid angering China since it's such a huge potential market.
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On July 06 2012 01:16 kdgns wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 01:07 ChrisXIV wrote:On July 06 2012 00:59 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 06 2012 00:01 ROOTBlitz wrote:
I would murderbutt someone for some storm cosmetics. Valve should have told Blizz to fuck off and make Storm a panda TT pretty sure the no panda thing is more due to China not Blizz iirc Wait...how do they play Dota in China when that's the problem? you'll notice the pandas in dota do not have a death animation (they just stand there and fade out). This is due to the fact that pandas are considered representative of china and depicting pandas dying is essentially a form of screaming death to china. Usually you cant even depict pandas getting hurt at all, but because Dota isnt actually a game but rather a mod to an existing game (WC3), they get away with it a bit more than a lot of games, still you can see they made a conscious decision because the storm spirit model does have its own death animation but it was intentionally changed to not show a panda dying.
Pandaren Brewmaster is an actual hero in the WC3 game. And the hero moans and sways before collapsing when he dies in the game, be it DOTA or WC3 (since DOTA borrowed the whole model from WC3). The elemental spirits don't behave in such a way, but at least the brewmaster does. It is a lot more logical to assume that only "brewmaster" was retained for DOTA 2 because pandaren brewmaster would be Blizzard's IP, especially with the next WoW expansion coming up.
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On July 06 2012 02:00 Oktyabr wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 01:16 kdgns wrote:On July 06 2012 01:07 ChrisXIV wrote:On July 06 2012 00:59 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 06 2012 00:01 ROOTBlitz wrote:
I would murderbutt someone for some storm cosmetics. Valve should have told Blizz to fuck off and make Storm a panda TT pretty sure the no panda thing is more due to China not Blizz iirc Wait...how do they play Dota in China when that's the problem? you'll notice the pandas in dota do not have a death animation (they just stand there and fade out). This is due to the fact that pandas are considered representative of china and depicting pandas dying is essentially a form of screaming death to china. Usually you cant even depict pandas getting hurt at all, but because Dota isnt actually a game but rather a mod to an existing game (WC3), they get away with it a bit more than a lot of games, still you can see they made a conscious decision because the storm spirit model does have its own death animation but it was intentionally changed to not show a panda dying. Pandaren Brewmaster is an actual hero in the WC3 game. And the hero moans and sways before collapsing when he dies in the game, be it DOTA or WC3 (since DOTA borrowed the whole model from WC3). The elemental spirits don't behave in such a way, but at least the brewmaster does. It is a lot more logical to assume that only "brewmaster" was retained for DOTA 2 because pandaren brewmaster would be Blizzard's IP, especially with the next WoW expansion coming up.
For dota 2 IP is definitely the reason. Its not really a hard set rule, its just really frowned upon, most game devs would try to keep the deaths very subtle just in case, because if you make a bad impression on chinese market you're kinda shooting yourself in the foot.
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I was playing with a DotA 2 dev and I asked why couldn't they just make storm a panda and he just kinda laughed and said lawyers TT
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Netherlands45349 Posts
If there was no problem making the brewmaster like he is now then I would have rather liked a storm spirit resembling the current brewmaster then the mexican we have right now.
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as the dota noob that I am I have always been buying bloodstone after arcane boots on Rasta, then I tried to get blink dagger because others seemed to do so.
Damn that shit is op
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On July 06 2012 03:30 ROOTBlitz wrote:
I was playing with a DotA 2 dev and I asked why couldn't they just make storm a panda and he just kinda laughed and said lawyers TT
next time you play with a dota 2 dec ask if/when they're going to add -ar matchmaking 
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i know he finally resized potms arrow jesus
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United States7481 Posts
all I've wanted for the past 6 months is swap 
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all I've wanted for the past 6 months is deathmatch xDDDD
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
On July 06 2012 05:16 Antoine wrote:all I've wanted for the past 6 months is swap
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Netherlands45349 Posts
SD and RD are the worst without swap.
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On July 06 2012 05:43 haitike wrote:
all I've wanted for the past 6 months is deathmatch xDDDD
DEATHMATCHHHHHH!!! But you need -AR for deathmatch to be viable
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On July 06 2012 06:24 Kipsate wrote:
SD and RD are the worst without swap.
sigh, I was so hyped when SD was released, until I realised there was no swap and everyone wanted to carry
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On July 06 2012 06:26 Spicy_Curry wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 05:43 haitike wrote:
all I've wanted for the past 6 months is deathmatch xDDDD DEATHMATCHHHHHH!!! But you need -AR for deathmatch to be viable
-DMAR in Dota2 would be so fucking fun.
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On July 06 2012 06:10 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 05:16 Antoine wrote:all I've wanted for the past 6 months is swap
this x1000
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On July 06 2012 06:44 DoNotDisturb wrote:sigh, I was so hyped when SD was released, until I realised there was no swap and everyone wanted to carry
Funny thing is I always get 3 carries in SD xD Like literally always. And there aren't that many int carries too
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Tend to get stuff like Death Prophet, Storm Spirit, Tinker, Invoker, Puck etc in the int slot a lot.
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Client updated - Undying has a funny icon O.o
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EPT
