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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 16:19:33
July 05 2012 16:18 GMT
#13981
On July 06 2012 01:07 ChrisXIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 00:59 Ryuu314 wrote:
On July 06 2012 00:01 ROOTBlitz wrote:
I would murderbutt someone for some storm cosmetics. Valve should have told Blizz to fuck off and make Storm a panda TT

pretty sure the no panda thing is more due to China not Blizz iirc

Wait...how do they play Dota in China when that's the problem?

pirated copies+what kdgns said makes sense too

and I'm not sure if it's completely illegal to have pandas in games, but I do know that China definitely frowns on the depiction of protected species (like pandas) in violent scenarios. multiple companies have had to change things to get around it, like Anet (GW). So while it may not be illegal, it's definitely frowned upon/offensive to the Chinese government. Gaming companies have always gone out of their way to avoid angering China since it's such a huge potential market.

Sources:
+ Show Spoiler +
really old news on this topic
Discussion on GW wiki *Gaile is/was more or less part of official Anet staff
there's probably more but I'm too lazy to dig atm
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
July 05 2012 17:00 GMT
#13982
On July 06 2012 01:16 kdgns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 01:07 ChrisXIV wrote:
On July 06 2012 00:59 Ryuu314 wrote:
On July 06 2012 00:01 ROOTBlitz wrote:
I would murderbutt someone for some storm cosmetics. Valve should have told Blizz to fuck off and make Storm a panda TT

pretty sure the no panda thing is more due to China not Blizz iirc

Wait...how do they play Dota in China when that's the problem?


you'll notice the pandas in dota do not have a death animation (they just stand there and fade out). This is due to the fact that pandas are considered representative of china and depicting pandas dying is essentially a form of screaming death to china. Usually you cant even depict pandas getting hurt at all, but because Dota isnt actually a game but rather a mod to an existing game (WC3), they get away with it a bit more than a lot of games, still you can see they made a conscious decision because the storm spirit model does have its own death animation but it was intentionally changed to not show a panda dying.


Pandaren Brewmaster is an actual hero in the WC3 game. And the hero moans and sways before collapsing when he dies in the game, be it DOTA or WC3 (since DOTA borrowed the whole model from WC3). The elemental spirits don't behave in such a way, but at least the brewmaster does. It is a lot more logical to assume that only "brewmaster" was retained for DOTA 2 because pandaren brewmaster would be Blizzard's IP, especially with the next WoW expansion coming up.
kdgns
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2427 Posts
July 05 2012 18:09 GMT
#13983
On July 06 2012 02:00 Oktyabr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 01:16 kdgns wrote:
On July 06 2012 01:07 ChrisXIV wrote:
On July 06 2012 00:59 Ryuu314 wrote:
On July 06 2012 00:01 ROOTBlitz wrote:
I would murderbutt someone for some storm cosmetics. Valve should have told Blizz to fuck off and make Storm a panda TT

pretty sure the no panda thing is more due to China not Blizz iirc

Wait...how do they play Dota in China when that's the problem?


you'll notice the pandas in dota do not have a death animation (they just stand there and fade out). This is due to the fact that pandas are considered representative of china and depicting pandas dying is essentially a form of screaming death to china. Usually you cant even depict pandas getting hurt at all, but because Dota isnt actually a game but rather a mod to an existing game (WC3), they get away with it a bit more than a lot of games, still you can see they made a conscious decision because the storm spirit model does have its own death animation but it was intentionally changed to not show a panda dying.


Pandaren Brewmaster is an actual hero in the WC3 game. And the hero moans and sways before collapsing when he dies in the game, be it DOTA or WC3 (since DOTA borrowed the whole model from WC3). The elemental spirits don't behave in such a way, but at least the brewmaster does. It is a lot more logical to assume that only "brewmaster" was retained for DOTA 2 because pandaren brewmaster would be Blizzard's IP, especially with the next WoW expansion coming up.


For dota 2 IP is definitely the reason. Its not really a hard set rule, its just really frowned upon, most game devs would try to keep the deaths very subtle just in case, because if you make a bad impression on chinese market you're kinda shooting yourself in the foot.
Blitz
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States706 Posts
July 05 2012 18:30 GMT
#13984
I was playing with a DotA 2 dev and I asked why couldn't they just make storm a panda and he just kinda laughed and said lawyers TT
[13:42:40] <13@mTw|syndereN|jD> Upvotes? ^_>
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 05 2012 18:37 GMT
#13985
If there was no problem making the brewmaster like he is now then I would have rather liked a storm spirit resembling the current brewmaster then the mexican we have right now.
WriterXiao8~~
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
July 05 2012 19:19 GMT
#13986
as the dota noob that I am I have always been buying bloodstone after arcane boots on Rasta, then I tried to get blink dagger because others seemed to do so.

Damn that shit is op
"Yeah buddy"
Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
July 05 2012 19:53 GMT
#13987
On July 06 2012 03:30 ROOTBlitz wrote:
I was playing with a DotA 2 dev and I asked why couldn't they just make storm a panda and he just kinda laughed and said lawyers TT


next time you play with a dota 2 dec ask if/when they're going to add -ar matchmaking
i wear a kitten scarf
Blitz
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States706 Posts
July 05 2012 20:12 GMT
#13988
i know he finally resized potms arrow jesus
[13:42:40] <13@mTw|syndereN|jD> Upvotes? ^_>
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
July 05 2012 20:16 GMT
#13989
all I've wanted for the past 6 months is swap
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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2727 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 20:43:57
July 05 2012 20:43 GMT
#13990
all I've wanted for the past 6 months is deathmatch xDDDD
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
July 05 2012 21:10 GMT
#13991
On July 06 2012 05:16 Antoine wrote:
all I've wanted for the past 6 months is swap

Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 05 2012 21:24 GMT
#13992
SD and RD are the worst without swap.
WriterXiao8~~
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
July 05 2012 21:26 GMT
#13993
On July 06 2012 05:43 haitike wrote:
all I've wanted for the past 6 months is deathmatch xDDDD


DEATHMATCHHHHHH!!! But you need -AR for deathmatch to be viable
High Risk Low Reward
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
July 05 2012 21:44 GMT
#13994
On July 06 2012 06:24 Kipsate wrote:
SD and RD are the worst without swap.


sigh, I was so hyped when SD was released, until I realised there was no swap and everyone wanted to carry
ffxiv enjoyer
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2727 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 21:46:15
July 05 2012 21:45 GMT
#13995
On July 06 2012 06:26 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 05:43 haitike wrote:
all I've wanted for the past 6 months is deathmatch xDDDD


DEATHMATCHHHHHH!!! But you need -AR for deathmatch to be viable


-DMAR in Dota2 would be so fucking fun.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
July 05 2012 21:47 GMT
#13996
On July 06 2012 06:10 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 05:16 Antoine wrote:
all I've wanted for the past 6 months is swap



this x1000
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 05 2012 21:53 GMT
#13997
On July 06 2012 06:44 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 06:24 Kipsate wrote:
SD and RD are the worst without swap.


sigh, I was so hyped when SD was released, until I realised there was no swap and everyone wanted to carry

Funny thing is I always get 3 carries in SD xD Like literally always. And there aren't that many int carries too
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 05 2012 22:00 GMT
#13998
Tend to get stuff like Death Prophet, Storm Spirit, Tinker, Invoker, Puck etc in the int slot a lot.
WriterXiao8~~
Resent
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia938 Posts
July 05 2012 23:21 GMT
#13999
Client updated - Undying has a funny icon O.o
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
July 05 2012 23:26 GMT
#14000
Hello giant update
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