EPTCan anyone link some videos or guides out there for the champions? As someone who has never played DotA before i dont want to be too nooby.
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_Book
United States51 Posts
Can anyone link some videos or guides out there for the champions? As someone who has never played DotA before i dont want to be too nooby. | ||
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Shai
Canada806 Posts
Champion = Hero Turret = Tower MOBA = DotA Minion = creep You can't jungle with as many heroes in Dota as you can in LoL. "Tanking up" is less part of the meta in Dota. Also there aren't really any "Tank" heroes (maybe Axe and Tide). I get the feeling that towers deal less damage in Dota than in LoL. When people jungle, they expect to get the creep camp they're working on on their own. There is no buff gained from killing specific creeps. Instead of the Dragon from LoL there is Roshan, who gives 200 gold to every party member AND drops an item, the Aegis, which lets the holder ressurect immediately and in the same place the next time they die. The aegis expires if unused after 10 minutes, and Roshan only comes back every 10 minutes. I'm not a LoL player but those seem to be some of the big things. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On June 27 2012 09:14 Shai wrote: http://www.playdota.com/ Has guides, stats on all the heroes and their skills, a forum community, etc. Champion = Hero Turret = Tower MOBA = DotA Minion = creep You can't jungle with as many heroes in Dota as you can in LoL. "Tanking up" is less part of the meta in Dota. Also there aren't really any "Tank" heroes (maybe Axe and Tide). I get the feeling that towers deal less damage in Dota than in LoL. When people jungle, they expect to get the creep camp they're working on on their own. There is no buff gained from killing specific creeps. Instead of the Dragon from LoL there is Roshan, who gives 200 gold to every party member AND drops an item, the Aegis, which lets the holder ressurect immediately and in the same place the next time they die. The aegis expires if unused after 10 minutes, and Roshan only comes back every 10 minutes. I'm not a LoL player but those seem to be some of the big things. turrets dealing less damage than lol is an understatement. in Lol if you walk into a turret at lvl 1 you just killed yourself. in dota you can take 2-3 hits and get away. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
I wouldnt be surprised if they start to make MMR cap by level: if you are below level 2 you are forced to stay in low MMR for example. | ||
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_Book
United States51 Posts
On June 27 2012 09:14 Shai wrote: http://www.playdota.com/ Has guides, stats on all the heroes and their skills, a forum community, etc. Champion = Hero Turret = Tower MOBA = DotA Minion = creep You can't jungle with as many heroes in Dota as you can in LoL. "Tanking up" is less part of the meta in Dota. Also there aren't really any "Tank" heroes (maybe Axe and Tide). I get the feeling that towers deal less damage in Dota than in LoL. When people jungle, they expect to get the creep camp they're working on on their own. There is no buff gained from killing specific creeps. Instead of the Dragon from LoL there is Roshan, who gives 200 gold to every party member AND drops an item, the Aegis, which lets the holder ressurect immediately and in the same place the next time they die. The aegis expires if unused after 10 minutes, and Roshan only comes back every 10 minutes. I'm not a LoL player but those seem to be some of the big things. Thanks for the quick response. I'll be sure to read as much as i can while the game is installing.  | ||
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
On June 27 2012 09:20 PrinceXizor wrote: turrets dealing less damage than lol is an understatement. in Lol if you walk into a turret at lvl 1 you just killed yourself. in dota you can take 2-3 hits and get away. And the towers do not show the radius of where they shoot (so have to learn the distance). But there are many in-game mechanics that one should learn as well. @_Book http://www.playdota.com/guides/welcome-to-dota-you-suck I liked this guide, it does help quite a bit and it is pretty straight forward. It will help quite a bit, although it is a bit of a read. | ||
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_Book
United States51 Posts
On June 27 2012 09:31 Nilrem wrote: And the towers do not show the radius of where they shoot (so have to learn the distance). But there are many in-game mechanics that one should learn as well. @_Book http://www.playdota.com/guides/welcome-to-dota-you-suck I liked this guide, it does help quite a bit and it is pretty straight forward. It will help quite a bit, although it is a bit of a read. Thanks for the read its pretty damn helpful so far. I always loved being the AD carry when i played LoL, so i was thinknig of sticking with that in this game if i can. So i was thinking of starting out my first few games asthe Drow Ranger since the guide you linked recommends that as a Hero/Champion to start with. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On June 27 2012 09:42 _Book wrote: Thanks for the read its pretty damn helpful so far. I always loved being the AD carry when i played LoL, so i was thinknig of sticking with that in this game if i can. So i was thinking of starting out my first few games asthe Drow Ranger since the guide you linked recommends that as a Hero/Champion to start with. drow is like ashe without her ultimate and pretty mediocre overall, i'd actually recommend not carrying until you learn the characters better. when you try to carry without knowing what the enemy team does, you will inevitably cost your team the game. Picture yourself in a LoL match and you go up against a rammus, a shaco, and an akali. three mediocre to poor characters in competitive play however, you don't know what they do, and subsequently get destroyed by them and cost your team the game. thats going to be you in dota, because close to 3/4 the characters in dota have the ability to completely make you feed if you don't know what they do and engage them poorly. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Ideally you can spend your first couple days just going through and playing every hero in the game for 10 minutes against bots. Use cheats to get max level and try out each skill a couple times. Best way to learn imo but will take some time. | ||
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rotegirte
Germany2859 Posts
On June 27 2012 09:25 NB wrote: as much i want to spread the name of DotA2 out to casual players, i have just realize something that will preventing that from happening: the MMR system in DotA2 isnt complete if not broken sometimes. You could easily find yourself in a game with the very best players in 1 sever one game and next game your entire team has less than 100 games played and have no clue how to skill their own hero. I wouldnt be surprised if they start to make MMR cap by level: if you are below level 2 you are forced to stay in low MMR for example. also, i wonder how they'll deal with constant leavers and bm. nobody will stop you from making throwaway steam accounts over and over again | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 27 2012 11:47 rotegirte wrote: also, i wonder how they'll deal with constant leavers and bm. nobody will stop you from making throwaway steam accounts over and over again Said this before, but once -EM queues are in the game, the amount of leavers and BM in every other mode is going to drastically diminish. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On June 27 2012 09:56 Firebolt145 wrote: Play a couple games against bots (they're actually rather decent) with each of the heroes you want to try out. Flick through all the items to get a rough idea what they do. Ideally you can spend your first couple days just going through and playing every hero in the game for 10 minutes against bots. Use cheats to get max level and try out each skill a couple times. Best way to learn imo but will take some time. first game I've had againt easy bots, they destroyed me. <_< | ||
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KillerSOS
United States4207 Posts
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Fishgle
United States2174 Posts
On June 27 2012 12:13 Erasme wrote: first game I've had againt easy bots, they destroyed me. <_< The best part is, you can flame the bots all you want, and you'll never be banned! Not only that, but your bot allies won't report you for feeding! :D | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On June 27 2012 12:37 Fishgle wrote: The best part is, you can flame the bots all you want, and you'll never be banned! Not only that, but your bot allies won't report you for feeding! :D And when you ping long enough, they'll try to attack roshan ! til he bashes them to death. | ||
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ControlMonkey
Australia3109 Posts
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CustomKal
Canada749 Posts
On June 27 2012 09:25 NB wrote: as much i want to spread the name of DotA2 out to casual players, i have just realize something that will preventing that from happening: the MMR system in DotA2 isnt complete if not broken sometimes. You could easily find yourself in a game with the very best players in 1 sever one game and next game your entire team has less than 100 games played and have no clue how to skill their own hero. I wouldnt be surprised if they start to make MMR cap by level: if you are below level 2 you are forced to stay in low MMR for example. The reason for this is usually because of player availability. Because of this they take into account your teams MMR versus there, thus if you are a high mmr, can end up with a lot of low tier to compensate for your team. This happens to me all the time which is why I hate solo queuing a lot. | ||
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zeehar
Korea (South)3804 Posts
On June 27 2012 09:44 PrinceXizor wrote: drow is like ashe without her ultimate and pretty mediocre overall, i'd actually recommend not carrying until you learn the characters better. when you try to carry without knowing what the enemy team does, you will inevitably cost your team the game. Picture yourself in a LoL match and you go up against a rammus, a shaco, and an akali. three mediocre to poor characters in competitive play however, you don't know what they do, and subsequently get destroyed by them and cost your team the game. thats going to be you in dota, because close to 3/4 the characters in dota have the ability to completely make you feed if you don't know what they do and engage them poorly. also, drow's animation before she gets her first level in her ult is really slow, which makes it more difficult to last hit with her. | ||
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kdgns
United States2427 Posts
On June 27 2012 15:11 zeehar wrote: also, drow's animation before she gets her first level in her ult is really slow, which makes it more difficult to last hit with her. This is only if you max out her orb first, if you only get 1 level in the orb to harass and focus on stats or aura, its pretty easy to last hit. If you like playing ranged carries I would say play one that doesnt require a ton of farm like clinkz, you have a great escape, you have a super easy last hit cos of +damage orb and if you're new, the other team will be new and not know how to deal with invis easily. Sort of like playing the old twitch in LoL. | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
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