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Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
June 14 2012 17:23 GMT
#12661
On June 15 2012 01:59 Oktyabr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 01:12 Kuzmorgo wrote:
On June 15 2012 00:56 Oktyabr wrote:
On June 15 2012 00:43 Cool Cat wrote:
On June 15 2012 00:33 Attakijing wrote:
hey so i'm a noob and i was just in a pub game where my lane partner Axe did this crazy strat that worked really well.

he got counter helix at level 1 and sat behind the enemy tower, and killed a couple waves of their creeps. the guys we were fighting against in lane didnt know what to do so they just sat under their tower and farmed. basically they had to choose between taking damage or their tower taking damage, and before they knew it they and their tower were at half health (about 3-4 waves) we then got a double kill and killed the tower before 5 minutes into the game.

just wanted to know if anyone knew some other interesting pulling strategies other than the normal one where a support pulls to keep creeps near tower in a long lane and give the carry some extra xp. i'm from lol so they are totally new to me


yo that's crazy. thanks for sharing man, i'm going to try that out next time.

I don't have any interesting pulling strategies, but I saw a pro game where a guy used a push stick to push himself up a cliff. It was crazy.


That's not exactly crazy, and it's extremely easy to stop a solo-ing axe that goes behind the tower if the lane has 2 ranged heroes, because all they need to do is kite him to no end. Take 1 stunner/veno or some guy with a slow or what not, and he's dead if he's doing it alone. An axe doing that can be extremely abusive to two melee heroes in the same lane, but that happens in pubs all the time.


So 2 heroe beats 1! wow what a shocker. Obviously he won't do it alone. Best combo imo is axe+dazzle (i do it sometimes with friends), since dazzle has high base dmg so he can harass back. Also, if you are 3 friends, whats even better is the third guy picking a jungler and farming the enemy jungle, so if more than 2 heros come to kill axe he can assist you.


My second line does elaborate on how just any SINGLE range hero can easily deal with a solo axe so long as he bothers to micro, while a second hero in the lane can stay at the tower to leech xp while topping up on his consumables. If it's some other hero with axe such as dazzle, or warlock / warlock + loa then obviously you need an equivalent number of range heroes, ideally with stuns and nukes, and not hard carries.


One more thing I forgot to add, is that since you creep jump on your hard lane, there is a high chance that the enemy hard carry will be there. Of course a decent team would rotate him to mid or something.
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
June 14 2012 19:03 GMT
#12662
SingSing live from Sweden!
"Yeah buddy"
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 14 2012 19:08 GMT
#12663
On June 15 2012 04:03 Ramong wrote:
SingSing live from Sweden!

From KingKong city!
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 19:16:13
June 14 2012 19:13 GMT
#12664
just noticed, but happy birthday passiveace!

On June 15 2012 04:08 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 04:03 Ramong wrote:
SingSing live from Sweden!

From KingKong city!


heh

"i should totally back off here because i have no HP and riki can just blinkstrike me and kill me but i wont"
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 19:23:17
June 14 2012 19:17 GMT
#12665
LOOK AT WHAT THIS GUY IS DOING TO ME

GOOD JOB GOOD JOB IT'S YOUR FAULT

sorry guys it's only like my second time watching singsing's stream

edit: FUCKING BEARS OMG BEARS
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
June 14 2012 19:34 GMT
#12666
On June 15 2012 04:17 zeehar wrote:
LOOK AT WHAT THIS GUY IS DOING TO ME

GOOD JOB GOOD JOB IT'S YOUR FAULT

sorry guys it's only like my second time watching singsing's stream

edit: FUCKING BEARS OMG BEARS

welcome :D

he tweeted that he might not stream so i didn't catch it, bah
Moderator
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
June 14 2012 19:58 GMT
#12667
galaxyman too hard hero blackhole too hard spell game too hard in general


I wish mouz get far at dreamhack so SingSing can give insightful interviews.
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
June 14 2012 20:04 GMT
#12668
God, that dodge on the sunstrike.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
June 14 2012 20:05 GMT
#12669
"It isn't a comeback since we weren't losing in the first place!"

Kills: 30 - 17 for enemy team.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
June 14 2012 20:44 GMT
#12670
HAHAHAHAH watching Loda stream... the guy now speaking singlish which is hilarious xD
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
June 14 2012 20:51 GMT
#12671
On June 15 2012 05:44 NB wrote:
HAHAHAHAH watching Loda stream... the guy now speaking singlish which is hilarious xD

It grows on you quickly :D
Moderator
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
June 14 2012 22:11 GMT
#12672
aaaaaand he's back!
"Yeah buddy"
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
June 14 2012 22:24 GMT
#12673
mouz players with eg, quantic playing AR. SingSing is streaming-
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
June 14 2012 22:41 GMT
#12674
Hmm, feel like trying sven and void jungle.
Dear Sixsmith...
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 00:12:53
June 15 2012 00:10 GMT
#12675
Dota 2 client update just now, probably nothing big?

Just kidding, some nice ass UI changes!
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
June 15 2012 00:11 GMT
#12676
On June 15 2012 09:10 FinestHour wrote:
Dota 2 client update just now, probably nothing big?

Here is the content analyze for patch: http://www.cyborgmatt.com/2012/06/dota-2-13th-june/
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
June 15 2012 00:40 GMT
#12677
joinDOTA interviews Link http://www.joindota.com/en/news/3326-link-i-learned-invaluable-lessons

At first it was a team decision to kick AngeL from the team along with our manager MystresS since we felt like AngeL did not devote enough time to play anymore. He had found a new job and a girlfriend, the girlfriend being our manager which I really had no problems with, if it did not affect the team. Well, it did.


^^
ffxiv enjoyer
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
June 15 2012 02:03 GMT
#12678
So... I just figured out how to edit the default Recommended Items for all heroes. Can finally have non-ridiculous items for CM, VS, and Veno >_>

[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +

"itembuilds/test_axe.txt"
{
"author" "GnozL"
"hero" "npc_dota_hero_crystal_maiden"
"Title" "Recommended items for Crystal Maiden"

"Items"
{
"YOU ARE SUPPORT"
{
"item" "item_courier"
"item" "item_ward_observer"
"item" "item_ward_sentry"
"item" "item_smoke_of_deceit"
"item" "item_tpscroll"
"item" "item_dust"
}

"STARTING ITEMS"
{
"item" "item_tango"
"item" "item_flask"
"item" "item_clarity"
"item" "item_gauntlets"
"item" "item_branches"
"item" "item_magic_stick"
}

"CORE ITEMS"
{
"item" "item_magic_wand"
"item" "item_boots"
"item" "item_bracer"
"item" "item_urn_of_shadows"
"item" "item_ring_of_basilius"
"item" "item_medallion_of_courage"
}

"CORE++ ITEMS"
{
"item" "item_force_staff"
"item" "item_tranquil_boots"
"item" "item_mekansm"
"item" "item_pipe"
"item" "item_ancient_janggo"
"item" "item_necronomicon_3"
}

"CARRY CM! OPA!"
{
"item" "item_sheepstick"
"item" "item_cyclone"
"item" "item_blade_mail"
"item" "item_shivas_guard"
"item" "item_ghost"
"item" "item_blink"
}
}
}
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
FraCuS
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1072 Posts
June 15 2012 02:09 GMT
#12679
I'm tempted to buy the dota 2 in game items + beta invite package...I want to wait for my beta key after finishing the survey though.

Apink/Girl's Day/miss A/IU/Crayon Pop/Sistar/Exo K :D l Kpop and Kdrama Enthusiast
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
June 15 2012 03:24 GMT
#12680
On June 15 2012 11:03 Fishgle wrote:
So... I just figured out how to edit the default Recommended Items for all heroes. Can finally have non-ridiculous items for CM, VS, and Veno >_>

[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +

"itembuilds/test_axe.txt"
{
"author" "GnozL"
"hero" "npc_dota_hero_crystal_maiden"
"Title" "Recommended items for Crystal Maiden"

"Items"
{
"YOU ARE SUPPORT"
{
"item" "item_courier"
"item" "item_ward_observer"
"item" "item_ward_sentry"
"item" "item_smoke_of_deceit"
"item" "item_tpscroll"
"item" "item_dust"
}

"STARTING ITEMS"
{
"item" "item_tango"
"item" "item_flask"
"item" "item_clarity"
"item" "item_gauntlets"
"item" "item_branches"
"item" "item_magic_stick"
}

"CORE ITEMS"
{
"item" "item_magic_wand"
"item" "item_boots"
"item" "item_bracer"
"item" "item_urn_of_shadows"
"item" "item_ring_of_basilius"
"item" "item_medallion_of_courage"
}

"CORE++ ITEMS"
{
"item" "item_force_staff"
"item" "item_tranquil_boots"
"item" "item_mekansm"
"item" "item_pipe"
"item" "item_ancient_janggo"
"item" "item_necronomicon_3"
}

"CARRY CM! OPA!"
{
"item" "item_sheepstick"
"item" "item_cyclone"
"item" "item_blade_mail"
"item" "item_shivas_guard"
"item" "item_ghost"
"item" "item_blink"
}
}
}

you can edit the recommended items in game. and if you dont like the way that works you can edit it game, go to the local profile steam folder where it saves the builds (saved as the <build_name>.txt) and then copy paste the data from there to the recommended items spot.
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