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Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
June 13 2012 22:59 GMT
#12621
I just want an official mmr/ladder
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
June 13 2012 23:11 GMT
#12622
I want proper team MM/ladder/ranking.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
June 13 2012 23:13 GMT
#12623
On June 14 2012 07:46 Imbajoe wrote:
are any of the non-released heroes common picks/bans in current DotA metagame

naga, she's pretty strong now. And we could see some nasty combos with her ult and vacuum, seeing how popular darkseer is in Dota 2.
Also, KotL should make his way into competitive play, imo. Illuminate can wipe an entire creepwave and he can tp his allies. Both of these "features" seem very powerful in the "pushing all lanes at the same time" metagame right now, I think.
I think these 2 should be the biggest ones.
super gg
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 13 2012 23:27 GMT
#12624
On June 14 2012 08:13 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 07:46 Imbajoe wrote:
are any of the non-released heroes common picks/bans in current DotA metagame

naga, she's pretty strong now. And we could see some nasty combos with her ult and vacuum, seeing how popular darkseer is in Dota 2.
Also, KotL should make his way into competitive play, imo. Illuminate can wipe an entire creepwave and he can tp his allies. Both of these "features" seem very powerful in the "pushing all lanes at the same time" metagame right now, I think.
I think these 2 should be the biggest ones.

I would expect the heroes added to 6.74 -cm to have more of an effect than Naga/KotL.

Well, Rubick for sure. Thrall/Wisp might take some time to catch on as people figure out how to draft them comfortably.
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Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
June 13 2012 23:40 GMT
#12625
and afterall, we do get an update
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 00:22:55
June 14 2012 00:22 GMT
#12626
On June 14 2012 08:40 Kznn wrote:
and afterall, we do get an update

Yep, mainly bug fixes. To be expected with 3 new heroes though.

- Fixed a case where a courier trying to deliver a Divine Rapier to someone without sufficient item slots could result in the Rapier disappearing.

Think someone here on TL ran into that bug, you'll be glad to know they've fixed it :D
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SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
June 14 2012 00:27 GMT
#12627
On June 13 2012 14:49 LAN-f34r wrote:
what the hell is a maliken rofl this is dota not w.e. MOBA wannabe game ur talking about(HoN)

Hahaha thsi is great

On a more postive note, would an MMR system that ranks in groups be a bad idea for valve to implement? I mean if you are rated at a "C" and you play with people also at a "C" there isn't really much elitism, but you know they are not "D" players.
And i think KDR, wards placed per game and all that stuff SHOULD NOT be recorded. Honestly all it leads to is bitching. Once hon went F2P i made a smurf account and got to 6kdr by only play plague rider (lich), yet i lost most of my games. KDR Is a joke of a stat that does not really influence winning games. Maybe wins per hero should be included, or maybe wins per hero group? But honestly the really precise stats are not needed.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 14 2012 00:37 GMT
#12628
On June 14 2012 09:27 SirMilford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 14:49 LAN-f34r wrote:
what the hell is a maliken rofl this is dota not w.e. MOBA wannabe game ur talking about(HoN)

Hahaha thsi is great

On a more postive note, would an MMR system that ranks in groups be a bad idea for valve to implement? I mean if you are rated at a "C" and you play with people also at a "C" there isn't really much elitism, but you know they are not "D" players.
And i think KDR, wards placed per game and all that stuff SHOULD NOT be recorded. Honestly all it leads to is bitching. Once hon went F2P i made a smurf account and got to 6kdr by only play plague rider (lich), yet i lost most of my games. KDR Is a joke of a stat that does not really influence winning games. Maybe wins per hero should be included, or maybe wins per hero group? But honestly the really precise stats are not needed.


It technically exists, you can filter you replays as Low, Medium or High skill level. But they are really broad and not very precise. If you are close enough to the top you can also see if your games are on or close to the first page of the watch list. Plus, if you give a rank to a player, labbeling still will exist. There is a point where "high C" and "low B" are muddled together and you give the impression that the diference is pretty big, while it may be inexistent. It's less of an issue than real rankings, but also less of a benefit.
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
June 14 2012 00:47 GMT
#12629
On June 14 2012 08:27 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 08:13 cecek wrote:
On June 14 2012 07:46 Imbajoe wrote:
are any of the non-released heroes common picks/bans in current DotA metagame

naga, she's pretty strong now. And we could see some nasty combos with her ult and vacuum, seeing how popular darkseer is in Dota 2.
Also, KotL should make his way into competitive play, imo. Illuminate can wipe an entire creepwave and he can tp his allies. Both of these "features" seem very powerful in the "pushing all lanes at the same time" metagame right now, I think.
I think these 2 should be the biggest ones.

I would expect the heroes added to 6.74 -cm to have more of an effect than Naga/KotL.

Well, Rubick for sure. Thrall/Wisp might take some time to catch on as people figure out how to draft them comfortably.


Don't forget about Tauren Chieftain, heard Chinese like to pick him nowadays. Also heard about Templar Assassin being picked?!

I really hope to see some Wisp and Rubick picks, I can see great potential for fun games with them
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
June 14 2012 00:52 GMT
#12630
On June 14 2012 04:12 myopia wrote:
I feel like throwing money at Valve. I also have a dream of working there someday.


Get in line.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
June 14 2012 00:53 GMT
#12631
Templar assassin is such a great pub stomp hero but I've never heard of her being picked competitively in any scene. Could be wrong.
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Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
June 14 2012 01:08 GMT
#12632
On June 14 2012 09:53 Firebolt145 wrote:
Templar assassin is such a great pub stomp hero but I've never heard of her being picked competitively in any scene. Could be wrong.


mushi
ffxiv enjoyer
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 14 2012 01:24 GMT
#12633
http://www.gs-media.de/img/storage/3530.jpg
dang synderen is supa hot in this picture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
zz_
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1022 Posts
June 14 2012 01:41 GMT
#12634
On June 14 2012 09:53 Firebolt145 wrote:
Templar assassin is such a great pub stomp hero but I've never heard of her being picked competitively in any scene. Could be wrong.


You're wrong. That said she's not a staple, she's a curveball/surprise-strat/player-speciality kind of pick.

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays/34284
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays/36337

There's tons more if you want to go look for them.
In the absence of justice, what is sovereignty but organized robbery?
wurm
Profile Joined October 2007
Philippines2296 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 01:47:42
June 14 2012 01:42 GMT
#12635
On June 14 2012 09:53 Firebolt145 wrote:
Templar assassin is such a great pub stomp hero but I've never heard of her being picked competitively in any scene. Could be wrong.


SEA teams love Templar Assassin. Mineski, MSIevo, Orange to name a few.

EDIT: More recent replays with TA

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays/54947
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays/54946
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays/54854
I know where my towel is.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 14 2012 01:53 GMT
#12636
Anyone have any problems queing on US west?
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
June 14 2012 01:56 GMT
#12637
TA/Siren/TC/Rubick to be in before TI2 at the minimum I hope There's medusa/visage/wisp too.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 14 2012 04:11 GMT
#12638
the only heroes that are common picks and aren't implemented are rubrick and to a lesser extent tc
of the new/reworked heroes, i think tb/naga/thrall/wisp have some potential as situational pickups but they haven't seen too much play
ta has been a rare pick for a really long time and she hasn't been buffed recently

ta reps on bottomright
http://dota.sgamer.com/Hero/Templar_Assassin.html
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
June 14 2012 07:53 GMT
#12639
Why is the shop always closed for me?
Dear Sixsmith...
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
June 14 2012 07:56 GMT
#12640
The shop hasn't been opened in China yet. I am pretty sure that Valve need to work with a chinese company together, if they want to sell something in China, not sure though.
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