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Churrass
Profile Joined October 2013
573 Posts
August 29 2014 18:01 GMT
#126181
terrorblade is the best hero of all time
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 18:01:53
August 29 2014 18:01 GMT
#126182
On August 30 2014 02:51 Acritter wrote:
There are tons of good options (after the non-negotiable Tranqs->Blink->Stick). Hood->Pipe, BKB, Heart, Blademail, Force Staff (which I see being done a lot but am not good enough to use properly)... hell, even Mek, Shiva's, AC. Halberd too, of course. Such a flexible, strong hero that offers a ton to your team.

The crazy thing about cent is that if a game goes long enough, you can have him grab bkb ac abyssal and he right clicks as hard as alot of carries do.

Its completely legit.

TB is fine.
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 29 2014 18:20 GMT
#126183
It's his crazy Strength gain. He just gets so tanky, and his Return starts doing ridiculous damage. Just Heart is enough to make him stupidly strong.

At level 25 with BKB and Heart, he deals over 100 damage with Return. That's actually just devastating.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
August 29 2014 18:32 GMT
#126184
in a pub, is it worth getting treads over tranqs if you're going to be the safe lane farmer?

i've only played the hero a few times and know that everyone and their mother gets tranqs, but i wanna know if this is entirely viable?
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
August 29 2014 18:36 GMT
#126185
I think tranqs are still good as a safelane farmer. You want to use double edge to farm, but you kind of can't afford without the tranquil boots hp regen.
super gg
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 29 2014 18:38 GMT
#126186
You can even go for Phase as a safelaner. Just trust your analysis of the game. Are you running low on health a lot? Do you have mana issues? Do you want to run along and chase people? That should educate your choice.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 29 2014 18:41 GMT
#126187
I don't think you can pass up the traqs regen. Once you max double edge at level 7, its going to be dumping 400 damage on your head every time you use it. And I don't think phase is good on a natural blink carrier. Maybe treads if you have some other way to heal.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
August 29 2014 18:43 GMT
#126188
Be a brave little Merlini and go BoTs.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 18:45:26
August 29 2014 18:45 GMT
#126189
i stopped going tranqs on centaur, i go a casual ring of health -> blink -> hood (eventually pipe)-> travels
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 29 2014 18:49 GMT
#126190
I keep forgetting the hood provides such good regen, I should try that next time, once I get off my Treant kick.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 29 2014 18:51 GMT
#126191
On August 30 2014 03:41 Plansix wrote:
I don't think you can pass up the traqs regen. Once you max double edge at level 7, its going to be dumping 400 damage on your head every time you use it. And I don't think phase is good on a natural blink carrier. Maybe treads if you have some other way to heal.

Safelane farmer doesn't have Tranq regen opportunity unless he's being played as an offlane who starts off strangely. Phase is good on any hero, to be honest.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
August 29 2014 18:51 GMT
#126192
On August 30 2014 03:51 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 03:41 Plansix wrote:
I don't think you can pass up the traqs regen. Once you max double edge at level 7, its going to be dumping 400 damage on your head every time you use it. And I don't think phase is good on a natural blink carrier. Maybe treads if you have some other way to heal.

Safelane farmer doesn't have Tranq regen opportunity unless he's being played as an offlane who starts off strangely. Phase is good on any hero, to be honest.


yes, pls go phase on tinker.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 18:53:17
August 29 2014 18:52 GMT
#126193
I mean the armor from tranquils is super good on a hero with 3.8 strength gain and only 7 armor at level 16
On August 30 2014 03:51 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 03:41 Plansix wrote:
I don't think you can pass up the traqs regen. Once you max double edge at level 7, its going to be dumping 400 damage on your head every time you use it. And I don't think phase is good on a natural blink carrier. Maybe treads if you have some other way to heal.

Safelane farmer doesn't have Tranq regen opportunity unless he's being played as an offlane who starts off strangely. Phase is good on any hero, to be honest.

U can drop tranqs to lasthit
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 29 2014 18:54 GMT
#126194
On August 30 2014 03:51 idonthinksobro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 03:51 Acritter wrote:
On August 30 2014 03:41 Plansix wrote:
I don't think you can pass up the traqs regen. Once you max double edge at level 7, its going to be dumping 400 damage on your head every time you use it. And I don't think phase is good on a natural blink carrier. Maybe treads if you have some other way to heal.

Safelane farmer doesn't have Tranq regen opportunity unless he's being played as an offlane who starts off strangely. Phase is good on any hero, to be honest.


yes, pls go phase on tinker.

I was really really tempted to type "rekt", but was worried about the overall quality of my post.

I can't endorse phase on centar, but I like to build my heroes like a brick shit house. Its why I don't like MoM, because it makes my Sven take to much damage when he should be dealing that damage to peoples faces.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
August 29 2014 19:07 GMT
#126195
i think the regen is good, but if you are going for a hood, you can get extra regen there. with safelane farm and treads, i think you'll be okay to only last hit using double edge occasionally.

i think the armor is good, but if you're going blademail, voila!

i can see why tranqs on an offlane centaur is great, but i don't think its non-negotiable in the safelane. i disagree with phase though, i don't see the synergy with his other skills. plus, you'll likely be getting a blink dagger so you can't really make an argument for mobility.

as with all heroes, everything is situational! good discussion.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 29 2014 19:13 GMT
#126196
On August 30 2014 03:52 Sn0_Man wrote:
I mean the armor from tranquils is super good on a hero with 3.8 strength gain and only 7 armor at level 16
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 03:51 Acritter wrote:
On August 30 2014 03:41 Plansix wrote:
I don't think you can pass up the traqs regen. Once you max double edge at level 7, its going to be dumping 400 damage on your head every time you use it. And I don't think phase is good on a natural blink carrier. Maybe treads if you have some other way to heal.

Safelane farmer doesn't have Tranq regen opportunity unless he's being played as an offlane who starts off strangely. Phase is good on any hero, to be honest.

U can drop tranqs to lasthit

why is everyone ignoring this fact recently
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 29 2014 19:15 GMT
#126197
On August 30 2014 04:13 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 03:52 Sn0_Man wrote:
I mean the armor from tranquils is super good on a hero with 3.8 strength gain and only 7 armor at level 16
On August 30 2014 03:51 Acritter wrote:
On August 30 2014 03:41 Plansix wrote:
I don't think you can pass up the traqs regen. Once you max double edge at level 7, its going to be dumping 400 damage on your head every time you use it. And I don't think phase is good on a natural blink carrier. Maybe treads if you have some other way to heal.

Safelane farmer doesn't have Tranq regen opportunity unless he's being played as an offlane who starts off strangely. Phase is good on any hero, to be honest.

U can drop tranqs to lasthit

why is everyone ignoring this fact recently

3hard5noobs. like me.

also RIP TeamLiquidDota QQQQQQQQQQ
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 29 2014 19:15 GMT
#126198
BTW liquid + dota = ded

GG guys it was fun. Maybe they pick up a superior moba team ?

and yeah tranqs are fine on centuar if only for the MS and armor
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 29 2014 19:17 GMT
#126199
On August 30 2014 04:15 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 04:13 Targe wrote:
On August 30 2014 03:52 Sn0_Man wrote:
I mean the armor from tranquils is super good on a hero with 3.8 strength gain and only 7 armor at level 16
On August 30 2014 03:51 Acritter wrote:
On August 30 2014 03:41 Plansix wrote:
I don't think you can pass up the traqs regen. Once you max double edge at level 7, its going to be dumping 400 damage on your head every time you use it. And I don't think phase is good on a natural blink carrier. Maybe treads if you have some other way to heal.

Safelane farmer doesn't have Tranq regen opportunity unless he's being played as an offlane who starts off strangely. Phase is good on any hero, to be honest.

U can drop tranqs to lasthit

why is everyone ignoring this fact recently

3hard5noobs. like me.

also RIP TeamLiquidDota QQQQQQQQQQ

i always drop em, kill creeps then i get hit by a stray ranged creep shot as i pick em up
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 29 2014 19:28 GMT
#126200
First no techies or balance patch, now this. What else will dota take from us? How much more can we take?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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