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On June 13 2012 11:20 SirMilford wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 10:13 Garnet wrote:
Kinda sad to realize but picking PA in pubs just doesn't work. Unless your team is superior, even equal teams she still can't be useful fast enough. eh i don't know. I picked her once in a pub and won. You just have to realise when to engage and when to just let your team die. she really can't teamfight before 40minutes is what i went into the game thinking. I lost the lane pretty hard verse a clinkz/bs lane (don't ask bloodseeker was dumb). but i still managed to get a battlefury before 20minutes and just farmed jungle while my team did their own thing. Is it bad that PA reminds me of maliken? She has a slow and a blink (malikens was 1 spell i know). She should go a realitively fast helm of dom to stack ancients. And she has stupid lategame potential. Actually thinking of it Maliken is kinda ike a DK/Huskar mix.
you dont play pa like maliken at all or you get straight up raped. it's more like huskar
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what the hell is a maliken rofl this is dota not w.e. MOBA wannabe game ur talking about(HoN) 
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On June 13 2012 13:12 sandyph wrote:
PA is great, she's like Riki without the invisibility and much higher DPS
First time playing and went 13-2-20 (1-1-7 before BFury)
I agree with this summary. She plays exactly like riki without invis/cloud and higher dmg. You can get kills quite early with the hero assuming the opponent doesn't have a team fight combo of doom and runs around as 4+1/5.
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I think she needs a bit higher lvl than riki to really start dealing dmg
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On June 13 2012 14:23 EchoZ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 13:12 sandyph wrote:
PA is great, she's like Riki without the invisibility and much higher DPS
First time playing and went 13-2-20 (1-1-7 before BFury) MKB is a direct counter to her right? I tried MKB against her and it was pretty good.
yes it counter her dodge, and then it becomes a coin toss, who get the proc the most would stay alive
even then I still think its on PA favour since its 15% to get 4x damage (extra 300-400 damage) compared to 35% of extra 100 damage
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On June 13 2012 14:52 Yurie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 13:12 sandyph wrote:
PA is great, she's like Riki without the invisibility and much higher DPS
First time playing and went 13-2-20 (1-1-7 before BFury) I agree with this summary. She plays exactly like riki without invis/cloud and higher dmg. You can get kills quite early with the hero assuming the opponent doesn't have a team fight combo of doom and runs around as 4+1/5.
early game her Q skill is a good kill steal ability with its 1500 range because you can sneak that last 50 damage from far away when the enemy is running to their tower
I didnt have W until I get the ultimate since she doesnt have that high of damage output early on, might need to do further testing to get better build
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W is still a great escape ability if nothing else. One extra point in E isn't going to do much (it has the scaling of 20/25/30/35%, so one level gives more than the other 3 combined, and one point is all it takes to get the mini-map invis). My normal build is Q>W>E, with the first 4 levels being either WQQE (somewhat dangerous lane) or EQQW (freefarm lane with no potential for kills) or QWQE (opponent is Maelk build).
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anybody else just get dc'd and unable to reconnect?
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dced from a winning game and now the auncher stuck on preparing to launch dota 2, is this something on my end?
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On June 13 2012 15:58 Meta wrote:
anybody else just get dc'd and unable to reconnect?
HELL YEAH glad its not just me :D
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Yup everyone dropped. Servers went ka-put. Sad day too, was having a good match.
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"Connecting to the Dota 2 network..."
Anyone else? It annoys me that Demon's stream is up lol.
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I know some friends that are still playing fine. It looks to be kind of selective...wonder why :/
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Try restarting the steam, that usually fixes the problem.
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So I have had 2 games drop completely, and this game I am getting dropped about every 5 min.
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On June 13 2012 16:00 Hoban wrote:
Yup everyone dropped. Servers went ka-put. Sad day too, was having a good match.
Someone's been watching too many WW2 shows/movies lately =P
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Although I was using my smurf account (so lower level matches), I find leveling her (PA) to be either very difficult or somewhat easy. Getting her dagger up makes racking up gold so much simpler. To have a near guantee last hit, it should be level 3. With level 2, you can get it majority of the time, but there are occasions (for myself at least), where the creep has like 5-10 hp left.
Once I get dagger up, unless I get swapped or stunned, I can just rack up the gold. And phantom strike is such a nice skill. If getting chased or whatnot, I just jump to a creep (always make sure something is behind me so I can get away). She is not the best hero, but I actually enjoy playing her. I think she has a lot of weaknesses when it comes to CC and low Hp, but such a joy if can get lots of damage.
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On June 13 2012 15:01 sandyph wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 14:23 EchoZ wrote:On June 13 2012 13:12 sandyph wrote:
PA is great, she's like Riki without the invisibility and much higher DPS
First time playing and went 13-2-20 (1-1-7 before BFury) MKB is a direct counter to her right? I tried MKB against her and it was pretty good. yes it counter her dodge, and then it becomes a coin toss, who get the proc the most would stay alive even then I still think its on PA favour since its 15% to get 4x damage (extra 300-400 damage) compared to 35% of extra 100 damage
Any hard item/hero counters?
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I personally feel PA is just overall a 'weak' hero.
Her ulti implies lategame potential but her only real surviveability skill is kind of fucked with by just buying an MKB.
Unless a PA is lucky, her ulti isn't even that amazing of a DPS boost.
IIRC it's like a 60% DPS boost at max level, nothing amazing(it's good, no doubt, just not amazing when you look at the rest of her kit) even though those crits will hurt.
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On June 13 2012 15:46 LAN-f34r wrote:
W is still a great escape ability if nothing else. One extra point in E isn't going to do much (it has the scaling of 20/25/30/35%, so one level gives more than the other 3 combined, and one point is all it takes to get the mini-map invis). My normal build is Q>W>E, with the first 4 levels being either WQQE (somewhat dangerous lane) or EQQW (freefarm lane with no potential for kills) or QWQE (opponent is Maelk build).
yes, most the guide in playdota only put 1 point in E and its after the ultimate
though wondering why all guide suggest HotD for lifesteal, is it because of Satanic ?
IIRC it's like a 60% DPS boost at max level
isnt max level is 4x crit damage which is 400% and phantom strike make you attack 4 time per seconds at max
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