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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 13 2012 05:23 GMT
#12561
On June 13 2012 11:20 SirMilford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 10:13 Garnet wrote:
Kinda sad to realize but picking PA in pubs just doesn't work. Unless your team is superior, even equal teams she still can't be useful fast enough.

eh i don't know. I picked her once in a pub and won. You just have to realise when to engage and when to just let your team die. she really can't teamfight before 40minutes is what i went into the game thinking. I lost the lane pretty hard verse a clinkz/bs lane (don't ask bloodseeker was dumb). but i still managed to get a battlefury before 20minutes and just farmed jungle while my team did their own thing.

Is it bad that PA reminds me of maliken? She has a slow and a blink (malikens was 1 spell i know). She should go a realitively fast helm of dom to stack ancients. And she has stupid lategame potential.

Actually thinking of it Maliken is kinda ike a DK/Huskar mix.


you dont play pa like maliken at all or you get straight up raped. it's more like huskar
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
June 13 2012 05:49 GMT
#12562
what the hell is a maliken rofl this is dota not w.e. MOBA wannabe game ur talking about(HoN)
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12088 Posts
June 13 2012 05:52 GMT
#12563
On June 13 2012 13:12 sandyph wrote:
PA is great, she's like Riki without the invisibility and much higher DPS

First time playing and went 13-2-20 (1-1-7 before BFury)


I agree with this summary. She plays exactly like riki without invis/cloud and higher dmg. You can get kills quite early with the hero assuming the opponent doesn't have a team fight combo of doom and runs around as 4+1/5.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
June 13 2012 05:56 GMT
#12564
I think she needs a bit higher lvl than riki to really start dealing dmg
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
June 13 2012 06:01 GMT
#12565
On June 13 2012 14:23 EchoZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 13:12 sandyph wrote:
PA is great, she's like Riki without the invisibility and much higher DPS

First time playing and went 13-2-20 (1-1-7 before BFury)


MKB is a direct counter to her right? I tried MKB against her and it was pretty good.


yes it counter her dodge, and then it becomes a coin toss, who get the proc the most would stay alive

even then I still think its on PA favour since its 15% to get 4x damage (extra 300-400 damage) compared to 35% of extra 100 damage
Put quote here for readability
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
June 13 2012 06:06 GMT
#12566
On June 13 2012 14:52 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 13:12 sandyph wrote:
PA is great, she's like Riki without the invisibility and much higher DPS

First time playing and went 13-2-20 (1-1-7 before BFury)


I agree with this summary. She plays exactly like riki without invis/cloud and higher dmg. You can get kills quite early with the hero assuming the opponent doesn't have a team fight combo of doom and runs around as 4+1/5.


early game her Q skill is a good kill steal ability with its 1500 range because you can sneak that last 50 damage from far away when the enemy is running to their tower

I didnt have W until I get the ultimate since she doesnt have that high of damage output early on, might need to do further testing to get better build
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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
June 13 2012 06:46 GMT
#12567
W is still a great escape ability if nothing else. One extra point in E isn't going to do much (it has the scaling of 20/25/30/35%, so one level gives more than the other 3 combined, and one point is all it takes to get the mini-map invis). My normal build is Q>W>E, with the first 4 levels being either WQQE (somewhat dangerous lane) or EQQW (freefarm lane with no potential for kills) or QWQE (opponent is Maelk build).
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6226 Posts
June 13 2012 06:58 GMT
#12568
anybody else just get dc'd and unable to reconnect?
good vibes only
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 13 2012 06:59 GMT
#12569
dced from a winning game and now the auncher stuck on preparing to launch dota 2, is this something on my end?
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 13 2012 07:00 GMT
#12570
On June 13 2012 15:58 Meta wrote:
anybody else just get dc'd and unable to reconnect?


HELL YEAH glad its not just me :D
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
June 13 2012 07:00 GMT
#12571
Yup everyone dropped. Servers went ka-put. Sad day too, was having a good match.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
DoomBox
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden73 Posts
June 13 2012 07:45 GMT
#12572
"Connecting to the Dota 2 network..."
Anyone else? It annoys me that Demon's stream is up lol.
NO ONE HAS EVER DONE THAT IN THE HISTORY OF DOTA
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 13 2012 07:51 GMT
#12573
I know some friends that are still playing fine. It looks to be kind of selective...wonder why :/
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
miyuki
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland47 Posts
June 13 2012 08:03 GMT
#12574
Try restarting the steam, that usually fixes the problem.
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
June 13 2012 08:22 GMT
#12575
So I have had 2 games drop completely, and this game I am getting dropped about every 5 min.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
CountChocula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2068 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-13 08:41:41
June 13 2012 08:29 GMT
#12576
On June 13 2012 16:00 Hoban wrote:
Yup everyone dropped. Servers went ka-put. Sad day too, was having a good match.

Someone's been watching too many WW2 shows/movies lately =P
Writer我会让他们连馒头都吃不到 Those championships owed me over the years, I will take them back one by one.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
June 13 2012 08:54 GMT
#12577
Although I was using my smurf account (so lower level matches), I find leveling her (PA) to be either very difficult or somewhat easy. Getting her dagger up makes racking up gold so much simpler. To have a near guantee last hit, it should be level 3. With level 2, you can get it majority of the time, but there are occasions (for myself at least), where the creep has like 5-10 hp left.

Once I get dagger up, unless I get swapped or stunned, I can just rack up the gold. And phantom strike is such a nice skill. If getting chased or whatnot, I just jump to a creep (always make sure something is behind me so I can get away). She is not the best hero, but I actually enjoy playing her. I think she has a lot of weaknesses when it comes to CC and low Hp, but such a joy if can get lots of damage.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
June 13 2012 09:44 GMT
#12578
On June 13 2012 15:01 sandyph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 14:23 EchoZ wrote:
On June 13 2012 13:12 sandyph wrote:
PA is great, she's like Riki without the invisibility and much higher DPS

First time playing and went 13-2-20 (1-1-7 before BFury)


MKB is a direct counter to her right? I tried MKB against her and it was pretty good.


yes it counter her dodge, and then it becomes a coin toss, who get the proc the most would stay alive

even then I still think its on PA favour since its 15% to get 4x damage (extra 300-400 damage) compared to 35% of extra 100 damage


Any hard item/hero counters?
Dear Sixsmith...
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 13 2012 10:05 GMT
#12579
I personally feel PA is just overall a 'weak' hero.
Her ulti implies lategame potential but her only real surviveability skill is kind of fucked with by just buying an MKB.
Unless a PA is lucky, her ulti isn't even that amazing of a DPS boost.
IIRC it's like a 60% DPS boost at max level, nothing amazing(it's good, no doubt, just not amazing when you look at the rest of her kit) even though those crits will hurt.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-13 10:33:26
June 13 2012 10:30 GMT
#12580
On June 13 2012 15:46 LAN-f34r wrote:
W is still a great escape ability if nothing else. One extra point in E isn't going to do much (it has the scaling of 20/25/30/35%, so one level gives more than the other 3 combined, and one point is all it takes to get the mini-map invis). My normal build is Q>W>E, with the first 4 levels being either WQQE (somewhat dangerous lane) or EQQW (freefarm lane with no potential for kills) or QWQE (opponent is Maelk build).


yes, most the guide in playdota only put 1 point in E and its after the ultimate

though wondering why all guide suggest HotD for lifesteal, is it because of Satanic ?


IIRC it's like a 60% DPS boost at max level


isnt max level is 4x crit damage which is 400% and phantom strike make you attack 4 time per seconds at max
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