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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 13 2014 16:19 GMT
#122861
ESL One needs an event in mexico/spain/somewhere like that so we can call it "ESL Juan"
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Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 16:26:39
August 13 2014 16:26 GMT
#122862
Aside from Timbersaw and Leshrac, which heroes can use a first- or second-item bloodstone best?
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
August 13 2014 16:27 GMT
#122863
It's not bad on Storm
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 13 2014 16:29 GMT
#122864
Ooooh can arc warden or whoever use bloodstone suicide on his illusion for the heal?

That sounds like it shouldn't work.
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lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
August 13 2014 16:31 GMT
#122865
BS on death effects are muted on tempest double
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 13 2014 16:32 GMT
#122866
Not even a little bit surprised, but still unfortunate.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 13 2014 16:33 GMT
#122867
Its decent on storm second item (I've seen korok get it first, debatable though). However you should judge whether its better to get instead of a BKB - some games you need the magic immunity too much.

Some Necrolyte players get it as well, but I think its fairly below average on him.
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Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 16:57:35
August 13 2014 16:54 GMT
#122868
On August 14 2014 01:26 Buckyman wrote:
Aside from Timbersaw and Leshrac, which heroes can use a first- or second-item bloodstone best?


Not second but early third, after bots and blink, Tinker can built BS effectively.
Meracle/ddz did that often in SEA.

http://nadota.com/showthread.php?26529-ddz-vs-Arteezy-Whose-tinker-is-better
Here is a discussion about it.

EDIT:
On August 14 2014 01:55 Sn0_Man wrote:
... or the last three pages?

Well that's akward...
Apparently I missed 2 pages since my last log in, you guys have been busy.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 13 2014 16:55 GMT
#122869
... or the last three pages?
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44277 Posts
August 13 2014 16:56 GMT
#122870
On August 14 2014 01:27 lprk wrote:
It's not bad on Storm

yeah it's pretty good on storm

but sadly can't go BS first item on him all the time
this is a quote
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 13 2014 16:56 GMT
#122871
LD not good enough sno man
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 13 2014 17:23 GMT
#122872
On August 14 2014 01:56 Targe wrote:
LD not good enough sno man

What does Lone Druid or the caster LD have to do with bloodstone?

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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 13 2014 17:30 GMT
#122873
n_n

my apologies, this subforum of course
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
August 13 2014 17:31 GMT
#122874
I am watching a 17 Minute game with 60 kills in it from page 1 team live games.
Wat is going on.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
August 13 2014 17:44 GMT
#122875
How do you feel about bloodstone on Witch Doctor? If they don't kill him, his team all has 1000+ strength worth of constant regen. If they do kill him, it heals everyone anyway.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 13 2014 17:47 GMT
#122876
On August 14 2014 02:44 Buckyman wrote:
How do you feel about bloodstone on Witch Doctor? If they don't kill him, his team all has 1000+ strength worth of constant regen. If they do kill him, it heals everyone anyway.

Core WD should have Eth Dagon 5 for dat Malefice damage.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 13 2014 17:49 GMT
#122877
On August 14 2014 02:44 Buckyman wrote:
How do you feel about bloodstone on Witch Doctor? If they don't kill him, his team all has 1000+ strength worth of constant regen. If they do kill him, it heals everyone anyway.

Why regen your team when you could get scepter and just kill the other team?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 13 2014 17:54 GMT
#122878
On August 14 2014 02:31 Slomo wrote:
I am watching a 17 Minute game with 60 kills in it from page 1 team live games.
Wat is going on.

Team games usually max out below 4.5k mmr

Also pros play clowny games too sometimes
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 18:01:09
August 13 2014 17:56 GMT
#122879
I think the under-estimated advantage of BS on DP is the build up. I think it makes sense even if you have Eul's that you go for Bloodstone. In that case you're getting new item benefits just about every time your ult is up (at 500gpm you'll just about get another component of bloodstone every 115s your ult is off CD). And you do see that in play like http://www.datdota.com/match.php?q=787804519&p=items where every 2ish minutes after Eul's the DP is getting another component that's boosting her strength and sort of coinciding with when she might want to be aggressive because her ult is up.

I think it plays well into DP's midgame strength, especially part of aggressive line-ups. If DP goes for heart in this case she's weaker than she maximally can be for some of those timings as she's saving up for Reaver. With Bloodstone DP can quickly pad out with +400 HP from Point + Vit booster over the course of 2 ults. And even with Eul's the extra mana does help a bit just to be able to really spam crypt swarm even if you can manage without it.

Like what's the worst case game scenario for a DP? Probably not being able to team fight in the midgame (either her or her team). Going for BS seems to be a way to try and make that not happen by offering lots of incremental advantages that she can take advantage off when her ult is off CD. Sure if the team is lopsided in physical damage you can go Shiva's or something and if the game is going to be slow (or you have an overwhelming advantage maybe) you can get heart, but if you have that like slight advantage/even in teamfights BS seems like a good way to give DP some immediate impact to take fights and help her get her job done.

The reliance on those timings though is probably why BS in pubs makes much less sense since you aren't necessarily pushing in a coordinated manner everytime your ult is off cd.
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lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
August 13 2014 18:03 GMT
#122880
You can also buy Skadi/Heart/BKB/Ghost Scepter/Atos and be tankier or spend less money (or in case of Skadi/Atos have additional slow which is amazing on her as she is all about kiting).
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