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Veles
United States3280 Posts
On August 14 2014 00:20 Sn0_Man wrote: U can't farm like that Timbersaw actually farms unreasonably fast with mana regen (more than just a BS though lol unless u have like 30 charges) farm heroes | ||
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
On August 14 2014 00:08 Acritter wrote: Understatement. Blink is important for literally everything Tinker does. Farming, escaping, killing... Blink does it all. Calling it now. The Tinker nerf will be removing Rearm from Blink. they recently patched to original dota so rearm will affect blink, unlikely that this will be the nerf of choice but i think tinker will get some attention that tinkers with his farm speed. (sorry for the pun) | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On August 14 2014 00:23 Sn0_Man wrote: I think imma try soul ring arcanes blink maybe. I'm not really 100% on what i'd buy after though since I think u'd need some raw hp. Maybe like BKB and hex. While those items are fine for regen, the nice thing about BS is that it gives Timber an innate amount of tankiness with the farming speed / regen. Soul ring actually detracts from HP, so it is essentially a farming item (not a bad one really), but doesn't solve the HP issue. Going blademail is nice in that it acts as a tanky item for a limited amoutn of time, which allows you deal a ton of damage while you aren't being attacked. Blink doesn't help with this at all - its typically a better second item (after bloodstone, bkb, blademail etc). | ||
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
On August 14 2014 00:23 Sn0_Man wrote: I think imma try soul ring arcanes blink maybe. I'm not really 100% on what i'd buy after though since I think u'd need some raw hp. Maybe like BKB and hex. if you drop the arcanes before using soulring you gain permanent mana. | ||
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Dubzex
United States6994 Posts
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
On August 14 2014 00:34 Dubzex wrote: Wow dont tell them every secret man. he is still learning, i mentioned it becasue it is important to do if you only run on arcanes + soulring. A lof of people don't know this. | ||
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ChunderBoy
3242 Posts
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lprk
Poland2249 Posts
On August 14 2014 00:35 ChunderBoy wrote: bloodstone fast respawn gets ignored. It's not a valid reason to buy it when the item is all about not dying, it's nice boon when you can benefit from it but thats all | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
especially if you have bots. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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Spoonmeister
Australia24 Posts
-You get enough mana regen with bottle euls (where euls is usually core) -You get more tanky with a heart or skadi but you get life regen/slow -Reduced death time not effective cause your ulti will still be on cool down if you used it before you died Bloodstone is also risky as it loses its effectiveness if you are behind and keep dying, and the payoff if you get charges is just more mana regen which you cant utilise. The only other thing is the team aoe heal, and it seems pretty ridiculous to spend so much just for that. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
But yeah, I think rushing heart after euls, or BKB is better. But I am not a pro. Edit: I am super bias because I hate BS on DP, because idiots rush it when they could just have a Euls. Same with shadowblade, but thats a different story. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On August 14 2014 00:54 Spoonmeister wrote: Can anyone tell me why bloodstone on DP is still popular with pros? -You get enough mana regen with bottle euls (where euls is usually core) -You get more tanky with a heart or skadi but you get life regen/slow -Reduced death time not effective cause your ulti will still be on cool down if you used it before you died Bloodstone is also risky as it loses its effectiveness if you are behind and keep dying, and the payoff if you get charges is just more mana regen which you cant utilise. The only other thing is the team aoe heal, and it seems pretty ridiculous to spend so much just for that. Honestly, I think there are better items for her, but its essentially gotten as a pseudo farming / tanky item. Having the mana regen to farm, while having more HP. Should never be gotten before Euls really (most pros get it after Euls anyways). The lowered respawn time is nice (though not super synergetic, as you said), and the aoe heal is fine. The mana regen + hp is really why though. Lets you farm like crazy. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
I thought it made sense because her damage comes from surviving a long time in fights. | ||
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lprk
Poland2249 Posts
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tehh4ck3r
Magrathea7084 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Yurie
12141 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
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