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Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 18:10:51
August 13 2014 18:08 GMT
#122881
On August 14 2014 03:03 lprk wrote:
You can also buy Skadi/Heart/BKB/Ghost Scepter/Atos and be tankier or spend less money (or in case of Skadi/Atos have additional slow which is amazing on her as she is all about kiting).


Atos is far less HP while being somewhat expensive because of the good int, Skadi only protects vs physical, Heart has worse build-up, BKB is fine-ish but DP is ok taking stuns once her ult is out and the mithril hammer is useless on her (plus less hp if most damage is physical), Ghost Scepter only helps vs physical (and some HP from the str).

None of those are bad items, but BS also has an interesting purpose in the way it builds up with timings that match DP's ult cooldown (i.e. at like 400-500 GPM you'll get the next BS component every 2ish minutes which works well with DP's 2 min ult cd) which makes sense as another item for certain situations.
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13090 Posts
August 13 2014 18:13 GMT
#122882
So is there a use for my fantasy gold trophy or just to sell on market?
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
August 13 2014 18:13 GMT
#122883
I think you people seriously underestimate how much mana DP can go through. Sure, it's "just" one spell that costs 140 mana, but it has just a 4 second cooldown and you can use it basically anywhere. Running through the jungle? Crypt Swarm some neutral camps. On a lane? Crypt Swarm the creeps. In a fight? Crypt Swarm every cooldown. Bottle, arcane boots and euls are definitely not enough, you can use much more mana regen.
super gg
DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
August 13 2014 18:14 GMT
#122884
On August 14 2014 03:13 SkelA wrote:
So is there a use for my fantasy gold trophy or just to sell on market?


Just gift it to the 2nd.
But does it djent?
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
August 13 2014 18:16 GMT
#122885
On August 14 2014 03:08 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 03:03 lprk wrote:
You can also buy Skadi/Heart/BKB/Ghost Scepter/Atos and be tankier or spend less money (or in case of Skadi/Atos have additional slow which is amazing on her as she is all about kiting).


Atos is far less HP while being somewhat expensive because of the good int, Skadi only protects vs physical, Heart has worse build-up, BKB is fine-ish but DP is ok taking stuns once her ult is out and the mithril hammer is useless on her (plus less hp if most damage is physical), Ghost Scepter only helps vs physical (and some minor HP boosting).

None of those are bad items, but BS also has an interesting purpose in the way it builds up with timings that match DP's ult cooldown (i.e. at like 400-500 GPM you'll get the next BS component every 2ish minutes which works well with DP's 2 min ult cd) which makes sense as another item for certain situations.

Atos is same hp/gold as BS while comeing online earlier and have more useful active. Skadi has 50% more hp for 500 more gold, on top of that damage, attack speed, more mana, armour and useful slow. Heart has worse buildup but gives you twice the life for same money. BKB is more life if it protects you from 1-2 nukes and is way cheaper. Ghost scepter only helps versus physical but you have huge aoe long silence and it cost few pennies.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 18:21:27
August 13 2014 18:18 GMT
#122886
Skadi after eul best item for dp overall. Literally every aspect is useful, hp/mana/slow that synergies well with your high ms. BKB/ghost/shiva as alternatives might be better against certain compositions too. I used to go heart after eul in the past, but i realise you don't need the hp regen because of ult heal while skadi components speed up farm and is easier to build.

And please get refresher for late game. That thing is amazing.

I just think bloodstone is thrash item on DP. I don't run out of mana with skadi/shivas even when spamming every 4s at neutrals and splitpushing. I just don't see the need for bloodstone. She doesn't need that much mana regen when you have high int stats boosted by eul regen.
Adrian_mx
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico1880 Posts
August 13 2014 18:45 GMT
#122887
Hey guys when youre solo queing ranked, what mode do you play ?
我是冠军
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 13 2014 18:47 GMT
#122888
cm/cd. RD would be best but volvo seems to consider AP more competitive somehow.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 13 2014 18:52 GMT
#122889
Volvo needs to give RD in ranked. They need to give it so much.

I do AP during the week and CD or CM on the weekend, mostly due to que times. I would do more CD, but 7 minutes before you even get to a match that might have someone DC isn't viable one a week night.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13090 Posts
August 13 2014 18:53 GMT
#122890
On August 14 2014 03:14 DaMuffinman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 03:13 SkelA wrote:
So is there a use for my fantasy gold trophy or just to sell on market?


Just gift it to the 2nd.


Haha oh you
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 13 2014 18:54 GMT
#122891
I mean its really up to personal preference though.

Would you rather kill 10 mins while some idiot drafts you an unplayable lineup before every game or would you rather suffer 4 teammates picking carry, trilaning mid, and have the enemy pick heroes like void/doom/lycan every game while the rest wait to counterpick you etc.

I mostly just can't deal with looking at 100+ heroes and being expected to select one fuck that shit LOL
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
August 13 2014 18:55 GMT
#122892
On August 14 2014 03:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
cm/cd. RD would be best but volvo seems to consider AP more competitive somehow.

Or just more popular. It makes more sense that Valve would rather limit the amount of modes so the queues are shorter and the MMR variance is smaller, than that they would consider AP more competitive for some reason.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 13 2014 19:08 GMT
#122893
Pick LC every game till she gets old. Then move on to new hero. Shes not old yet, but soon.....

Ax. Because I love Blink Dagger.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 13 2014 19:15 GMT
#122894
shivas is a far better item after euls than skadi lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Adrian_mx
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico1880 Posts
August 13 2014 19:19 GMT
#122895
I feel the same way about AP, it really isnt competitive one bit. CM or CD I think is the best but overall between the two, definetly CM
我是冠军
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 13 2014 19:23 GMT
#122896
MSGV coming to PC it seems
awesome

Long live the mustard race
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 13 2014 19:28 GMT
#122897
On August 14 2014 04:23 Unleashing wrote:
MSGV coming to PC it seems
awesome

Long live the mustard race

Hm, I guess that likely means the + Show Spoiler +
just announced hideo kojima and guillermo del toro silent hill will probably be on PC as well? At least post PS4 release?
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 19:39:09
August 13 2014 19:34 GMT
#122898
On August 14 2014 04:28 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 04:23 Unleashing wrote:
MSGV coming to PC it seems
awesome

Long live the mustard race

Hm, I guess that likely means the + Show Spoiler +
just announced hideo kojima and guillermo del toro silent hill will probably be on PC as well? At least post PS4 release?

I don't think they have platforms confirmed for the new silent hill. However, I cannot think of two better people make that game. I love Del Toro, but he needs to start on Pacific Rim 2, for more stupid robot combat.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 19:39:20
August 13 2014 19:38 GMT
#122899
del toro is making a video game?
damn i love that guy

the guy who made pans labyrinth is a perfect choice to make a silent hill game i think
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 13 2014 19:46 GMT
#122900
On August 14 2014 04:38 PassiveAce wrote:
del toro is making a video game?
damn i love that guy

the guy who made pans labyrinth is a perfect choice to make a silent hill game i think

Hideo Kojima is a guy known for complexity, multi-layered, rich plots and mechanics, and often mind bending, out of the box elements to his games.

I can't think of a better man to right the sinking ship that is the Silent Hill franchise.
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