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Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 10:39:58
July 19 2014 09:53 GMT
#118361
On July 19 2014 18:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2b4f0l/standard_steam_hero_guide_project_stats_for_july/ -- 27,775,144 million subscriptions; we're doin' good


On July 19 2014 18:47 TheEmulator wrote:
Well done. That's actually insane


Growth is actually diminishing. On Jan 17th, we hit our growth peak at 21.73% and it's been going down lately to 7.32% this month and average just above 10,000 new average (or 1.5 to 2 million new subscriptions every 15 days).

So it is still steady but declining unfortunately. We can say that 10.4% of the current user base (~9 million) is subscribed to the top guide; so that is good. But trying to figure out the total unique subscribers is unfortunately proving difficult.

Top 110 guides have 110,000 subscribers each however (top 15 have 400k or above each)

thanks to everyone helping out!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
July 19 2014 10:24 GMT
#118362
On July 19 2014 12:28 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 11:12 Targe wrote:
will just regular sugar from candy or something work?
fruit is gross

What are you 8?

yes
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 10:31:43
July 19 2014 10:30 GMT
#118363
I find candy pretty gross. Except a good chocolate.

And chocolate also works much better for me than coffee for energy. Coffee really doesn't do shit for me.
Once you Goblak...
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 19 2014 10:31 GMT
#118364
I have a pretty bad sweet tooth; tons of cavities and such; I love candy and I hate chooclate
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
July 19 2014 10:32 GMT
#118365
I have a sweet tooth only for tropical fruit. I eat like a mango per day.
Once you Goblak...
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 19 2014 10:36 GMT
#118366
Oh yes, citrus fruit are fucking amazing
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Treefrog42
Profile Joined December 2012
United Kingdom36 Posts
July 19 2014 10:53 GMT
#118367
Aww yiss lemonsssssss
rudimentalfeelthelov
Profile Joined December 2013
Finland268 Posts
July 19 2014 10:55 GMT
#118368
Are there no valve employees looking at reports during the international, over the last 5 days I've reported 3 people for most blatant intentional feeding and I haven't got a single message that action has been taken against any of them
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
July 19 2014 11:01 GMT
#118369
I'm quite sure there are never any valve employees looking at reports, it's an automated system.
Once you Goblak...
r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
July 19 2014 11:34 GMT
#118370
why would any of the 300 of the best employees the game//technology industry has waste their time with the tens of thousands of reports a day complaining about feeders and ragers?
Flash Fan!
rudimentalfeelthelov
Profile Joined December 2013
Finland268 Posts
July 19 2014 11:40 GMT
#118371
I always thought they have few people employed, officer Wu included, whose sole responsibility is to look at reports and ban stuff qq
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
July 19 2014 11:55 GMT
#118372
Choco woupd know. I think he is in charge of the Ben Wu fanclub.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 19 2014 12:02 GMT
#118373
how u think the mute disaster of 2014 could happen
automated system.
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
July 19 2014 12:36 GMT
#118374
On July 19 2014 18:53 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 18:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2b4f0l/standard_steam_hero_guide_project_stats_for_july/ -- 27,775,144 million subscriptions; we're doin' good


Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 18:47 TheEmulator wrote:
Well done. That's actually insane


Growth is actually diminishing. On Jan 17th, we hit our growth peak at 21.73% and it's been going down lately to 7.32% this month and average just above 10,000 new average (or 1.5 to 2 million new subscriptions every 15 days).

So it is still steady but declining unfortunately. We can say that 10.4% of the current user base (~9 million) is subscribed to the top guide; so that is good. But trying to figure out the total unique subscribers is unfortunately proving difficult.

Top 110 guides have 110,000 subscribers each however (top 15 have 400k or above each)

thanks to everyone helping out!


Wtf? A constant % increase would actually be exponential growth.To suggest that the linear growth actually observed over the past few months (which implies a decrease %-wise over time by definition) should be expressed as "declining" doesn't make any sense at all, mathematically or even logically.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
July 19 2014 12:44 GMT
#118375
I don't see whats wrong with saying that the Growth is declining, makes perfect sense, mathematically and logically.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 12:51:27
July 19 2014 12:50 GMT
#118376
On July 19 2014 21:36 hariooo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 18:53 Torte de Lini wrote:
On July 19 2014 18:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2b4f0l/standard_steam_hero_guide_project_stats_for_july/ -- 27,775,144 million subscriptions; we're doin' good


On July 19 2014 18:47 TheEmulator wrote:
Well done. That's actually insane


Growth is actually diminishing. On Jan 17th, we hit our growth peak at 21.73% and it's been going down lately to 7.32% this month and average just above 10,000 new average (or 1.5 to 2 million new subscriptions every 15 days).

So it is still steady but declining unfortunately. We can say that 10.4% of the current user base (~9 million) is subscribed to the top guide; so that is good. But trying to figure out the total unique subscribers is unfortunately proving difficult.

Top 110 guides have 110,000 subscribers each however (top 15 have 400k or above each)

thanks to everyone helping out!


Wtf? A constant % increase would actually be exponential growth.To suggest that the linear growth actually observed over the past few months (which implies a decrease %-wise over time by definition) should be expressed as "declining" doesn't make any sense at all, mathematically or even logically.


I said diminishing. Which means that there is still an observed growth but at a reduced or 'diminished' rate.

Positive growth %, not constant growth percentage.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 13:01:11
July 19 2014 12:54 GMT
#118377
On July 19 2014 21:44 Yoshi- wrote:
I don't see whats wrong with saying that the Growth is declining, makes perfect sense, mathematically and logically.


Because %-growth is usually cited for things like money, where the subject isn't of a specified finite quantity (e.g. compound interest). When you take something like a population, it doesn't make sense. Let's say there's 1000 people playing DOTA. If every month an additional 10 people subscribe to the guides, the %-growth starts decreasing immediately but it isn't logical to suggest that growth is declining after the first month when in reality it's stable, linear growth. The absolute amount of growth could even be increasing over time while the %-growth decreases, which it should by its very nature because you are always approaching a cap. Compared to an investment which has no maximum theoretical value, %-growth becomes more appropriate.

On July 19 2014 21:50 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 21:36 hariooo wrote:
On July 19 2014 18:53 Torte de Lini wrote:
On July 19 2014 18:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2b4f0l/standard_steam_hero_guide_project_stats_for_july/ -- 27,775,144 million subscriptions; we're doin' good


On July 19 2014 18:47 TheEmulator wrote:
Well done. That's actually insane


Growth is actually diminishing. On Jan 17th, we hit our growth peak at 21.73% and it's been going down lately to 7.32% this month and average just above 10,000 new average (or 1.5 to 2 million new subscriptions every 15 days).

So it is still steady but declining unfortunately. We can say that 10.4% of the current user base (~9 million) is subscribed to the top guide; so that is good. But trying to figure out the total unique subscribers is unfortunately proving difficult.

Top 110 guides have 110,000 subscribers each however (top 15 have 400k or above each)

thanks to everyone helping out!


Wtf? A constant % increase would actually be exponential growth.To suggest that the linear growth actually observed over the past few months (which implies a decrease %-wise over time by definition) should be expressed as "declining" doesn't make any sense at all, mathematically or even logically.


I said diminishing. Which means that there is still an observed growth but at a reduced or 'diminished' rate.

Positive growth %, not constant growth percentage.


But the absolute growth is actually very consistent recently. It's not diminished. It doesn't make any sense at all to expect constant growth percentage when talking about a finite population. Right now you could get 2.1 million new subscribers the next 15 days, 2.2 million the next, etc. and the %-growth would still decrease. But the %-growth must necessarily decrease over time for any sample of a finite population. This isn't true for things like money and that's why it's a more relevant metric in that context.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 19 2014 12:55 GMT
#118378
i dont see anything wrong with what torte said, mathematically, logically or philosophically or even imaginary
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 13:01:07
July 19 2014 12:59 GMT
#118379
[image loading]

I'm observing a growth in numbers both on an average as well as in total
But I see that since January, the rate of growth is diminishing. Previously the growth rate was up to 20% now it is reduced to 7%; a much slower rate or less people are subscribing so to speak.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 13:11:06
July 19 2014 13:00 GMT
#118380
On July 19 2014 21:36 hariooo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 18:53 Torte de Lini wrote:
On July 19 2014 18:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2b4f0l/standard_steam_hero_guide_project_stats_for_july/ -- 27,775,144 million subscriptions; we're doin' good


On July 19 2014 18:47 TheEmulator wrote:
Well done. That's actually insane


Growth is actually diminishing. On Jan 17th, we hit our growth peak at 21.73% and it's been going down lately to 7.32% this month and average just above 10,000 new average (or 1.5 to 2 million new subscriptions every 15 days).

So it is still steady but declining unfortunately. We can say that 10.4% of the current user base (~9 million) is subscribed to the top guide; so that is good. But trying to figure out the total unique subscribers is unfortunately proving difficult.

Top 110 guides have 110,000 subscribers each however (top 15 have 400k or above each)

thanks to everyone helping out!


Wtf? A constant % increase would actually be exponential growth.To suggest that the linear growth actually observed over the past few months (which implies a decrease %-wise over time by definition) should be expressed as "declining" doesn't make any sense at all, mathematically or even logically.
Of course it can be described as declining.

If you're doubling users every year and then you start only increasing by 50%, then your growth rate has declined.

If you're dealing with linear growth, then it wouldn't be declining, but I'm presuming the guides haven't had linear growth.

~

The term 'declining' is dependent on other variables. And for whichever ones you look at, it could be viewed as either true or false.
Once you Goblak...
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