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makmeatt
2024 Posts
On July 19 2014 23:04 teapoted wrote: It's so fucking humid here, leather seat be damned. I can't even hope to lie on my back, I'd just start drifting. Here's to hope this weather will actually get a little bit darker soon. | ||
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
Everything else is great and all... but I need the all star match. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
On July 19 2014 23:55 LeLoup wrote: Guys, why isn't it the all star match yet? Everything else is great and all... but I need the all star match. That's today I think? | ||
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makmeatt
2024 Posts
eSports does need television though. Unless we're prepared to stagnate until other sports move fully into online broadcasting. What the fuck is wrong with people these days? | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
i wish ppl werent retarded who again had the blog link in his sig? | ||
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makmeatt
2024 Posts
On July 20 2014 00:09 teddyoojo wrote: FUCK ESPORTS i wish ppl werent retarded who again had the blog link in his sig? You mean the one from this guy who was dropping his SC2 MMR to explore the trench? | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Need in view of growth of a subculture is too strong of a word to use on any level or argument. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On July 20 2014 00:31 teddyoojo wrote: why would i care about acceptance of who You don't, businesses do. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
Yesterday the broadcast was almost 10 hours, lol. No way that format is getting mainstream ever. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Grettin
42417 Posts
On July 19 2014 23:55 LeLoup wrote: Guys, why isn't it the all star match yet? Everything else is great and all... but I need the all star match. Liquipedia my friend. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/The_International/2014/Playoffs/All-Star_Match July 19, 2014 TBA PDT | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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makmeatt
2024 Posts
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
On July 20 2014 00:34 Steveling wrote: What DIGITALSPORTS need is to not require people to quit their job to watch it fulltime. Yesterday the broadcast was almost 10 hours, lol. No way that format is getting mainstream ever. Pretty much this. There's almost no chance of it getting legitimate time on television just due to the amount of time they would have to invest into it in order to show it all. Television is for people that can't watch one thing for too long. Remember that 3 hours is the 'max' run time for most movies. Having a tournament with 10+ hour days air on TV, and on top of that games that can last an hour without a break is really bad for that. Also consider that unlike many sports Dota isn't played with a time limit. Single games can be anywhere from 20 minutes to 90 minutes. This makes creating a schedule very difficult as you would constantly either have to fill time with extra content or cut out time from other things so you could keep on schedule. Overall it's a nightmare for any traditional production. On July 20 2014 00:41 makmeatt wrote: But why does business need esports? Why does it have to go mainstream? You have that backward. Esports needs businesses to take it seriously because sponsorships are what keep leagues and tournaments alive. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
Also consider that unlike many sports Dota isn't played with a time limit. Single games can be anywhere from 20 minutes to 90 minutes. thats just like um so wrong again, fuck esports for esports sake | ||
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makmeatt
2024 Posts
On July 20 2014 00:44 LeLoup wrote: You have that backward. Esports needs businesses to take it seriously because sponsorships are what keep leagues and tournaments alive. Don't you think about $11M is more than enough if not a bit over the top? We really don't need this sort of money, even (or especially) on a yearly basis. I don't see how the bad sides outweigh the good ones, especially when it's the fans that seem to be the most outspoken about all things eSports and when the cash has proven itself to not guarantee any sort of high quality games... I mean, if you are looking for all the flashy shows you are used to see surrounding traditional sports, why not just go watch the existing ones? Combining the two might seem like a dream to some, but it's not gonna be anywhere close to what people imagine the result to be. | ||
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
On July 20 2014 01:03 makmeatt wrote: Don't you think about $11M is more than enough if not a bit over the top? We really don't need this sort of money, even (or especially) on a yearly basis. I don't see how the bad sides outweigh the good ones, especially when it's the fans that seem to be the most outspoken about all this eSports and when the cash has proven itself to not guarantee any sort of high quality games... I mean, if you are looking for all the flashy shows you are used to see surrounding traditional sports, why not just go watch the existing ones? Combining the two might seem like a dream to some, but it's not gonna be anywhere close to what people imagine the result to be. 11M is one tournament and heavily promoted by the lead developer of the game who gave out a ton of bonuses to people who bought it. It's completely unrealistic to expect that an MLG or Dreamhack could make similar numbers with what they have access to right now. Sustainability over time is going to rely on sponsorships and marketability as much as the tools that valve gives in game. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On July 20 2014 00:44 LeLoup wrote: There are a lot of sports which are on TV that are broadcast basically all day during big tournaments.Pretty much this. There's almost no chance of it getting legitimate time on television just due to the amount of time they would have to invest into it in order to show it all. Television is for people that can't watch one thing for too long. Remember that 3 hours is the 'max' run time for most movies. Having a tournament with 10+ hour days air on TV, and on top of that games that can last an hour without a break is really bad for that. Also consider that unlike many sports Dota isn't played with a time limit. Single games can be anywhere from 20 minutes to 90 minutes. This makes creating a schedule very difficult as you would constantly either have to fill time with extra content or cut out time from other things so you could keep on schedule. Overall it's a nightmare for any traditional production. You have that backward. Esports needs businesses to take it seriously because sponsorships are what keep leagues and tournaments alive. F-1, snooker, tennis. | ||
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