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makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
July 19 2014 14:48 GMT
#118401
On July 19 2014 23:04 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 23:03 teddyoojo wrote:
in other news, the 4 hottest days this year were yesterday, today, and will be tomorow and the day after tomorrow!
my pc crashed during eg nb yesterday cuz overheating (this literally never ever happened before)
whys gaben hate me

It's so fucking humid here, leather seat be damned.

I can't even hope to lie on my back, I'd just start drifting. Here's to hope this weather will actually get a little bit darker soon.
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
July 19 2014 14:55 GMT
#118402
Guys, why isn't it the all star match yet?

Everything else is great and all... but I need the all star match.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
July 19 2014 15:06 GMT
#118403
On July 19 2014 23:55 LeLoup wrote:
Guys, why isn't it the all star match yet?

Everything else is great and all... but I need the all star match.

That's today I think?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
July 19 2014 15:07 GMT
#118404
Aye, after matches. About 5AM CEST though, so there's that.

eSports does need television though. Unless we're prepared to stagnate until other sports move fully into online broadcasting.

What the fuck is wrong with people these days?
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 19 2014 15:09 GMT
#118405
FUCK ESPORTS
i wish ppl werent retarded
who again had the blog link in his sig?
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
July 19 2014 15:13 GMT
#118406
On July 20 2014 00:09 teddyoojo wrote:
FUCK ESPORTS
i wish ppl werent retarded
who again had the blog link in his sig?

You mean the one from this guy who was dropping his SC2 MMR to explore the trench?
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 19 2014 15:15 GMT
#118407
no the blog about how retarded people are that do shit for the sake of esports
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 19 2014 15:31 GMT
#118408
Having eSports on television only hastens its acceptance. It's not needed but its good to have.

Need in view of growth of a subculture is too strong of a word to use on any level or argument.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 19 2014 15:31 GMT
#118409
why would i care about acceptance of who
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 19 2014 15:32 GMT
#118410
On July 20 2014 00:31 teddyoojo wrote:
why would i care about acceptance of who


You don't, businesses do.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
July 19 2014 15:34 GMT
#118411
What DIGITALSPORTS need is to not require people to quit their job to watch it fulltime.
Yesterday the broadcast was almost 10 hours, lol. No way that format is getting mainstream ever.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 19 2014 15:36 GMT
#118412
but i liked it

...=
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
July 19 2014 15:40 GMT
#118413
On July 19 2014 23:55 LeLoup wrote:
Guys, why isn't it the all star match yet?

Everything else is great and all... but I need the all star match.


Liquipedia my friend.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/The_International/2014/Playoffs/All-Star_Match July 19, 2014 TBA PDT
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 19 2014 15:41 GMT
#118414
We either get 10 hours a day or online tournaments with little weight to them. Only Riot can afford to have teams on lan for long periods of time
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
July 19 2014 15:41 GMT
#118415
But why does business need esports? Why does it have to go mainstream?
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 15:45:38
July 19 2014 15:44 GMT
#118416
On July 20 2014 00:34 Steveling wrote:
What DIGITALSPORTS need is to not require people to quit their job to watch it fulltime.
Yesterday the broadcast was almost 10 hours, lol. No way that format is getting mainstream ever.

Pretty much this. There's almost no chance of it getting legitimate time on television just due to the amount of time they would have to invest into it in order to show it all. Television is for people that can't watch one thing for too long. Remember that 3 hours is the 'max' run time for most movies.

Having a tournament with 10+ hour days air on TV, and on top of that games that can last an hour without a break is really bad for that.

Also consider that unlike many sports Dota isn't played with a time limit. Single games can be anywhere from 20 minutes to 90 minutes. This makes creating a schedule very difficult as you would constantly either have to fill time with extra content or cut out time from other things so you could keep on schedule.

Overall it's a nightmare for any traditional production.

On July 20 2014 00:41 makmeatt wrote:
But why does business need esports? Why does it have to go mainstream?

You have that backward. Esports needs businesses to take it seriously because sponsorships are what keep leagues and tournaments alive.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 19 2014 15:49 GMT
#118417
Also consider that unlike many sports Dota isn't played with a time limit. Single games can be anywhere from 20 minutes to 90 minutes.

thats just like um so wrong


again, fuck esports for esports sake
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 16:06:05
July 19 2014 16:03 GMT
#118418
On July 20 2014 00:44 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2014 00:41 makmeatt wrote:
But why does business need esports? Why does it have to go mainstream?

You have that backward. Esports needs businesses to take it seriously because sponsorships are what keep leagues and tournaments alive.

Don't you think about $11M is more than enough if not a bit over the top? We really don't need this sort of money, even (or especially) on a yearly basis. I don't see how the bad sides outweigh the good ones, especially when it's the fans that seem to be the most outspoken about all things eSports and when the cash has proven itself to not guarantee any sort of high quality games... I mean, if you are looking for all the flashy shows you are used to see surrounding traditional sports, why not just go watch the existing ones? Combining the two might seem like a dream to some, but it's not gonna be anywhere close to what people imagine the result to be.
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 16:07:36
July 19 2014 16:07 GMT
#118419
On July 20 2014 01:03 makmeatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2014 00:44 LeLoup wrote:
On July 20 2014 00:41 makmeatt wrote:
But why does business need esports? Why does it have to go mainstream?

You have that backward. Esports needs businesses to take it seriously because sponsorships are what keep leagues and tournaments alive.

Don't you think about $11M is more than enough if not a bit over the top? We really don't need this sort of money, even (or especially) on a yearly basis. I don't see how the bad sides outweigh the good ones, especially when it's the fans that seem to be the most outspoken about all this eSports and when the cash has proven itself to not guarantee any sort of high quality games... I mean, if you are looking for all the flashy shows you are used to see surrounding traditional sports, why not just go watch the existing ones? Combining the two might seem like a dream to some, but it's not gonna be anywhere close to what people imagine the result to be.

11M is one tournament and heavily promoted by the lead developer of the game who gave out a ton of bonuses to people who bought it. It's completely unrealistic to expect that an MLG or Dreamhack could make similar numbers with what they have access to right now. Sustainability over time is going to rely on sponsorships and marketability as much as the tools that valve gives in game.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 16:19:58
July 19 2014 16:19 GMT
#118420
On July 20 2014 00:44 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2014 00:34 Steveling wrote:
What DIGITALSPORTS need is to not require people to quit their job to watch it fulltime.
Yesterday the broadcast was almost 10 hours, lol. No way that format is getting mainstream ever.

Pretty much this. There's almost no chance of it getting legitimate time on television just due to the amount of time they would have to invest into it in order to show it all. Television is for people that can't watch one thing for too long. Remember that 3 hours is the 'max' run time for most movies.

Having a tournament with 10+ hour days air on TV, and on top of that games that can last an hour without a break is really bad for that.

Also consider that unlike many sports Dota isn't played with a time limit. Single games can be anywhere from 20 minutes to 90 minutes. This makes creating a schedule very difficult as you would constantly either have to fill time with extra content or cut out time from other things so you could keep on schedule.

Overall it's a nightmare for any traditional production.

Show nested quote +
On July 20 2014 00:41 makmeatt wrote:
But why does business need esports? Why does it have to go mainstream?

You have that backward. Esports needs businesses to take it seriously because sponsorships are what keep leagues and tournaments alive.
There are a lot of sports which are on TV that are broadcast basically all day during big tournaments.

F-1, snooker, tennis.
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