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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 23:00:13
May 19 2012 22:59 GMT
#11421
Well the forum is pretty young so I don't think they have a lot of moderators and stuff yet, plus you know the Dota community isn't exactly known for being mannered.
WriterXiao8~~
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 20 2012 01:20 GMT
#11422
http://www.joindota.com/en/news/3111-darer-soaks-up-parts-of-dts

ROFL, i cant believe it. No TI2 for Artstyle.

rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 20 2012 01:31 GMT
#11423
On May 20 2012 10:20 dragonborn wrote:
http://www.joindota.com/en/news/3111-darer-soaks-up-parts-of-dts

ROFL, i cant believe it. No TI2 for Artstyle.


seems like artstyle doesnt want foreigners.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
zz_
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1022 Posts
May 20 2012 01:49 GMT
#11424
On May 20 2012 04:41 The Great Taste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 03:42 Numy wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:47 The Great Taste wrote:
If this move is true, I wonder what this will mean for them and the chances of a TI2 invite. We've already seen the reward for stability with iG getting an invite and with this change for Darer being the 2nd major roster revamp in about 2 weeks, surely Valve will be extremely reluctant to invite them now.


How exactly do you say iG getting an invite is a reward for stability. Geezlike how far are people going to push this stability thing. They got an iG because they got star power and are really good marketing for valve in China. This "oh no they changed roster valve excudes them" is getting ludicrous now. Just freaking wait for the invites to come out. Darer clearly trying to find a roster that suits them and well they jumped the gun a bit with previous one. I guess there was pressure on them to not use standins while they were trying to get things sorted so they jumped into a team that didn't work in the long run.


Tobi himself said in an interview stability was a very important criteria. It is not ludicrous that Valve would exclude them for this. TI2 starts in 3 months if you invite a team based on who is in it now and the team is substantially different 3 months down the track, it doesn't really make the invite that "valid". We saw this even in the first International, when 4 members of LGD went to form iG.Y and as a result neither LGD nor iG.Y were given LGD's original place in the tournament, with Virus taking that spot (or some other team if Virus were replacing someone else).

Yes, of course iG also got in due to their star power and the fact they are from China, perhaps it was a bad example to use since stability was not the main factor but you look at the common factors among the teams invited so far it's not that unreasonable to say that stability is an important selection criteria.


The Virus thing was because it takes 100'000'000 years to get visas approved for travel out of china.
In the absence of justice, what is sovereignty but organized robbery?
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
May 20 2012 01:50 GMT
#11425
Artstyle seems like a difficult person to work with lol.

either that or he is hellbent on destroying all the teams that boycotted him.
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
May 20 2012 02:50 GMT
#11426
Artstyle likes butchering teams.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
May 20 2012 04:56 GMT
#11427
On May 20 2012 10:49 zz_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 04:41 The Great Taste wrote:
On May 20 2012 03:42 Numy wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:47 The Great Taste wrote:
If this move is true, I wonder what this will mean for them and the chances of a TI2 invite. We've already seen the reward for stability with iG getting an invite and with this change for Darer being the 2nd major roster revamp in about 2 weeks, surely Valve will be extremely reluctant to invite them now.


How exactly do you say iG getting an invite is a reward for stability. Geezlike how far are people going to push this stability thing. They got an iG because they got star power and are really good marketing for valve in China. This "oh no they changed roster valve excudes them" is getting ludicrous now. Just freaking wait for the invites to come out. Darer clearly trying to find a roster that suits them and well they jumped the gun a bit with previous one. I guess there was pressure on them to not use standins while they were trying to get things sorted so they jumped into a team that didn't work in the long run.


Tobi himself said in an interview stability was a very important criteria. It is not ludicrous that Valve would exclude them for this. TI2 starts in 3 months if you invite a team based on who is in it now and the team is substantially different 3 months down the track, it doesn't really make the invite that "valid". We saw this even in the first International, when 4 members of LGD went to form iG.Y and as a result neither LGD nor iG.Y were given LGD's original place in the tournament, with Virus taking that spot (or some other team if Virus were replacing someone else).

Yes, of course iG also got in due to their star power and the fact they are from China, perhaps it was a bad example to use since stability was not the main factor but you look at the common factors among the teams invited so far it's not that unreasonable to say that stability is an important selection criteria.


The Virus thing was because it takes 100'000'000 years to get visas approved for travel out of china.

It was also in europe last year, correct? It's in america this year which makes the visa situation a bit more difficult for a lot of players.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
May 20 2012 08:15 GMT
#11428
On May 20 2012 07:42 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 03:17 Qbek wrote:
On May 20 2012 03:06 Unleashing wrote:
Sigh, why are the joindota forums so bad? >
The people there are completely ignorant of everything and will judge a team without taking the players situation into it.

Talking about DD here, sure they've had problems but before the whole eclypsia thing they couldn't really train due to exams and 2 of the members moving = obviously they'll be losing a lot.
Then the whole eclypsia thing happened and they lost a player and got a new one, it'll take time but they'll get back as one of the top teams, IMO.
I mean, JD forums said: "sponsor or not, they won't win anything anyway"

I'm just annoyed i guess, all teams can have bad periods, and IMO DD has proven that when they're in shape they have what it takes to compete with the best.

Treat JD forums as a reminder how good TL actually is. I go there to laugh

An enormous % of the posts I read there make me wonder why the guys aren't banned yet.
I know they need to keep their forums active, and banning half the people is not a good idea, but they don't realize that it's better for long term to have less active forums than 4chan level forums with everyone insulting everyone.
Basically on JD, a full flame post, containing only insults, is not moderated, lol.


I've seen nothing but flames from Mystic_man

also, every thread about PGG on JD

>LOOOOL PGG MOOBS

>LOOOOL PGG BM
ffxiv enjoyer
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
May 20 2012 08:54 GMT
#11429
So we are now talking gossip about other forums :D ?
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 20 2012 11:03 GMT
#11430
TLDotA: the circle of sages in dota community :3
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 20 2012 11:06 GMT
#11431
On May 20 2012 20:03 NB wrote:
TLDotA: the circle of sages in dota community :3

I'm pretty sure we all learn a lot here, so it's pretty accurate.
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
May 20 2012 12:32 GMT
#11432
--- Nuked ---
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
May 20 2012 14:17 GMT
#11433
selfrighteousness is a curse
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
May 20 2012 14:19 GMT
#11434
'MERICA!
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
May 20 2012 14:57 GMT
#11435
--- Nuked ---
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
May 20 2012 15:54 GMT
#11436
MystresS not their manager anymore?
ffxiv enjoyer
ilovelings
Profile Joined January 2011
Argentina776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 18:36:23
May 20 2012 16:25 GMT
#11437
I never understood why people cared so much about teams.


edit : 6 games in a row where my team's stats are 0 10 0 and mine are 20 10 0. It's just impossible to win.
People is diying.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
May 20 2012 22:56 GMT
#11438
On May 21 2012 01:25 ilovelings wrote:
I never understood why people cared so much about teams.


edit : 6 games in a row where my team's stats are 0 10 0 and mine are 20 10 0. It's just impossible to win.

2 k:a/dr isn't actually very good
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 23:29:46
May 20 2012 23:08 GMT
#11439
On May 21 2012 07:56 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 01:25 ilovelings wrote:
I never understood why people cared so much about teams.


edit : 6 games in a row where my team's stats are 0 10 0 and mine are 20 10 0. It's just impossible to win.

2 k:a/dr isn't actually very good


its actually much much worse if you die when you have 20 kills as opposed to 0 since you give more xp/gold

On a sidenote, how exciting is it that DK is back in the metagame. Hands down my most favoritest hero. Turning into a dargon and all is pretty sick.
High Risk Low Reward
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
May 20 2012 23:33 GMT
#11440
On May 21 2012 08:08 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 07:56 Nevuk wrote:
On May 21 2012 01:25 ilovelings wrote:
I never understood why people cared so much about teams.


edit : 6 games in a row where my team's stats are 0 10 0 and mine are 20 10 0. It's just impossible to win.

2 k:a/dr isn't actually very good


its actually much much worse if you die when you have 20 kills as opposed to 0 since you give more xp/gold

On a sidenote, how exciting is it that DK is back in the metagame. Hands down my most favoritest hero. Turning into a dargon and all is pretty sick.

Yea better to have 0-0-0 with 600+ gpm then 20-10-0
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
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