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Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
May 15 2012 11:30 GMT
#11181
I disagree with DK being unfair, however the iG one is very questionable this early, visa issue or not.
ffxiv enjoyer
The Great Taste
Profile Joined January 2012
389 Posts
May 15 2012 12:35 GMT
#11182
On May 15 2012 17:43 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 17:32 NB wrote:
On May 15 2012 16:30 rabidch wrote:
mtw hasn't shown themselves to be strong, neither have next.kz. VP and mineski i would consider but not take. I'd rather take darer and duskbin over those respective last 2 simply because they've played some very promising games recently.

i dont predict VP to do well, before the roster was even completed i worried about how well they would do in the long run. all of their players are definitely very high skill, but the huge weakness with this team is that they have no good captain, none of these players have proven themselves to be good at it which is needed with the amount of competition these days. somebody needs to step up otherwise i dont see this roster staying in one piece for a very long time. i've seen teams like this come together and either fail miserably or do very successful.

mineski just lost one of its star players, julz, after a slump by the team. if valve wants a pinoy team, i dont see any reason to invite them over duskin, who had recently soundly beat aeon and took a game off of zenith in a bo3 finals at a LAN.

teams with artstyle as captain have always had a slow start, with that kind of roster he'll come together, never underestimate that guy as captain.

BR teams do exist but they havent made an splash internationally yet. pain has only played a few matches recently, all against unknown teams

i dont think people realize exactly how competitive these slots are.

actually next.KZ constantly made it into semi final/final recently make them a really strong candidate. They however are using very risky strategies and got away with it.

http://www.asusopen.com/tournament/327
um ok, we arent even considering DTS, why consider next.kz then?

they are also at the top of the nonpro prodota2 league in europe, along with mtw, but the competition in that ladder is weak. in contrast, the low point of the european pro prodota2 league is m5.


Next.KZ have an interesting style of play and they are from a fairly obscure country. It'd be good to have teams from different areas of the world and not solely base selection criteria on stability and performance. They haven't been performing all that badly either and they have been pretty stable (only 1 roster change really over the past few months AFAIK).

In regards to iG, must admit I am pretty surprised. There is still 3 months to go to TI2 and I have no doubt they'd be pretty good by then but a more-deserving team IMO such as Next, Mouz, Quantic or DTS could miss out as a result.

DK definitely deserve an invite. They have been dominating Dota 1 and they started Dota 2 earlier than the others. Regardless of their results in Dota 2, the Dota 1 dominance by itself should reward them a spot. EHOME I don't know, when I saw CLC play they didn't seem that good at all, but the new EHOME has been playing well.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 15 2012 12:51 GMT
#11183
How about we compile the list of 16 teams we think will be invited and then discuss?
China: DK, EHOME, iG
CIS + EU + NA: Na'Vi, CoL, CLG, Mouz (+ Show Spoiler +
NS said they will be invited for sure. Let's say he's right, even they are not a stable team
)
SAE + Australia: aL, Orange, Zenith, Pinoy team (duskbin/mineski), Mith (+ Show Spoiler +
most likely. Mith said they quit DotA today and are completely focused on Dota 2 now. Seems like they have been contacted by Valve.
)

These are I think 100%. That's 12 teams so far. I think 1 more Chinese team should be invited (considering iG is already in, it should make sense to invite CLG/WE or some other team). The last 3 slots would probably all go to EU teams? I think M5 should get a spot, despite them being not very stable. After all they can deliver good results on LANs. I wouldn't even dare speculate about the remaining slots, I have no clue.

Thoughts?
super gg
Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
May 15 2012 13:16 GMT
#11184
Where is the place to go to find euro inhouse leagues and priv games? Is there a list anywhere? TL seems to be mainly US.
Whats the altitude?
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 15 2012 13:34 GMT
#11185
I don't find DK unfair at all.
#1 team in DotA being invited? Makes perfect sense to me.
Stable and good team.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
May 15 2012 13:39 GMT
#11186
I was watching top "high skill" (front page) games earlier. Tinker who stacks ancients with MotM, dieing to them TWICE and buying back into the game like half the times he died (other half BB was on cd ). Lothars on jugger, furion, and kunkka. Attempted ward traps on qop. Jugger not maxing his bladefury. SK ultiing a solo qop who has BKB. I can't remember anything else, but that game was FUNNY.

If that game was high skill, then I agree with PU. Ursa OP man. What is ghost scepter i don't know what anything not-lothars/MoM is.

On May 15 2012 22:16 Chewits wrote:
Where is the place to go to find euro inhouse leagues and priv games? Is there a list anywhere? TL seems to be mainly US.


Lies and deceit.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
ilovelings
Profile Joined January 2011
Argentina776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 13:57:00
May 15 2012 13:47 GMT
#11187
Lothars on kunkka is almost a core item. On jugger is debatable and so is on furion.


Unluckily Kunkka has only one viable build as a semi carry.

Urn
Phase
Vanguard
Lothars
Battlefury
Assault
sell vanguard or urn.
torrasque.


Daedalus/Buriza is very unreliable although it can provide a 1hit rampage. (that's how I won my last game with kunka btw)
People is diying.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 14:04:11
May 15 2012 13:57 GMT
#11188
On May 15 2012 19:35 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 19:28 Kipsate wrote:
Why are the invites unfair?

Because they don't play or train dota 2 (well, they do for a month or two now) and they're average/bad in the few tournaments we saw them play in. I'd guess they only play dota 2 for TI.

(I'm sure they'll be good for TI, but I can understand why some people say those invites are unfair)

EHOME is solely playing Dota2 for TI2.

All their players (lanm, kingj, 357, dai, pct) pretty much left other teams just to do it. The massive drama was there for a reason. In any case, Valve will only want to accelerate China switching over to Dota2.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 15 2012 14:28 GMT
#11189
Here are some predictions for upcoming patches from me:

-Out of the game UI changes. Reasoning: the "today" page hasn't been updated since panda patch, meaning it will probably change

-Team matchmaking- the state in which matchmaking is now, and how long it has been, hints for a major change soon.

And some heroes maybe, they seem to be working on a lot at the time so a double or triple release hopefully.
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wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
May 15 2012 14:32 GMT
#11190
On May 15 2012 22:47 ilovelings wrote:
Lothars on kunkka is almost a core item. On jugger is debatable and so is on furion.


Unluckily Kunkka has only one viable build as a semi carry.

Urn
Phase
Vanguard
Lothars
Battlefury
Assault
sell vanguard or urn.
torrasque.


Daedalus/Buriza is very unreliable although it can provide a 1hit rampage. (that's how I won my last game with kunka btw)


why would you go bfury after vanguard/lothars?

why would you even go vanguard and bfury
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 15 2012 15:30 GMT
#11191
When i play kunkka i do it the only way:
Phase into lothar into rapier and MORE RAPIERS.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
May 15 2012 15:38 GMT
#11192
I go Urn > Phase > Lothars > Double Crystalys :D.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
May 15 2012 15:39 GMT
#11193
I think upgrading into buriza is better than getting another crystalys
Nebula
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
England780 Posts
May 15 2012 16:04 GMT
#11194
Why is it the last few games ive played as rikimaru whenever i blink strike an enemy i get silenced everytime? Kind of hard to blink/smoke if i have to wait forever to use it ? :/
<3
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 15 2012 16:05 GMT
#11195
On May 16 2012 01:04 Nebula wrote:
Why is it the last few games ive played as rikimaru whenever i blink strike an enemy i get silenced everytime? Kind of hard to blink/smoke if i have to wait forever to use it ? :/

It's a bug fixed in next patch
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TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
May 15 2012 16:05 GMT
#11196
On Kunkka, In High Level in houses or scrims I really like going PT, Shadow Blade, BKB/ Straight into Daedlelus.
if you can believe you can concieve
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 15 2012 16:45 GMT
#11197
Toby Dawson ‏ @TobiWanDOTA
joinDOTA Open Final tonight - Ex Quantic vs Quantic starts at 20:00 CET -- SingSing will be the special guest tonight

HOLY SHIT UHFUHFUHFAHDSIJASDIJSFGADSIJSFDIJGIJADSFIJADS
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 15 2012 16:46 GMT
#11198
On May 16 2012 01:45 dragonborn wrote:
Toby Dawson ‏ @TobiWanDOTA
joinDOTA Open Final tonight - Ex Quantic vs Quantic starts at 20:00 CET -- SingSing will be the special guest tonight

HOLY SHIT UHFUHFUHFAHDSIJASDIJSFGADSIJSFDIJGIJADSFIJADS

HOLY SHIT OIGHOIHGISUDFHOSDIGHDOGSDIFHODSUIHDOGUSHDF
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Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
May 15 2012 16:56 GMT
#11199
On May 16 2012 01:45 dragonborn wrote:
Toby Dawson ‏ @TobiWanDOTA
joinDOTA Open Final tonight - Ex Quantic vs Quantic starts at 20:00 CET -- SingSing will be the special guest tonight

HOLY SHIT UHFUHFUHFAHDSIJASDIJSFGADSIJSFDIJGIJADSFIJADS


This can only end hilariously
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
May 15 2012 16:57 GMT
#11200
Fuck yeah

That game, better than expectation
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