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paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 14 2012 14:01 GMT
#11081
On May 14 2012 22:16 flamewheel wrote:
YaphetS says Janggo is good because he has the micromanagement to make it work.


i dont get this. why would you need micromanagement for a janggo?
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 14 2012 14:11 GMT
#11082
he means for Shadow Fiend
WriterXiao8~~
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 14:17:01
May 14 2012 14:12 GMT
#11083
On May 14 2012 12:36 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 11:51 Ack1027 wrote:
There is no inhouse that is good to ' find a team '

NADL: 95% chance that you will not like it due to people being too ' low skill ' or ' dumb league '.
Esahara: Typical euro only circle jerk with people who don't follow rules and almost always want to play cookie cutter with .cl's. Nobody plays alone, it's +2 or +3 majority of the time.
IGDL: You won't get in.

Exp: I am/was vouched in NADL/Esahara. It's not an insult to you that you won't get into IGDL, it's just how it is right now.
If you wanna find a team, you have to make one through friends. Join a tournament or something with some friends you have. Exposure of yourself is good for a team, but its a very small chance to find a team in a inhouse league.

but i play computer games alone and have no friends... wat do?

then play with me, im alone as well T_T

this game filter says 90% of my games on high level ~.~


On May 14 2012 12:03 wurm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 10:34 NB wrote:
Assume he stays at mineski, there is a very slim chance of that team being invited to TI2 since they have no real result in dota2. Even if they got to TI2, the 1 mil isnt free and they have to compete with teams like Navi, AL or DK Zenith. In the end that 1 mil will have to split in 5 and possibly some % going into team itself. Better off just sign a transfer contract and get some guarantee cash haha :D


Is this about JuLz? IMO, he isn't really a loss for Mineski. They got Nando from MSIevoGT, the 15 year old prodigy, to replace him. I've watched his play, he is really really good. On par with Bimbo/Jay. He needs a little refinement, sure, but he has chemistry with the Mineski team and that's the most important factor. Downside is, I think he has little to no practice in Dota 2. I expect good things from Mineski in the future.

Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 02:47 dragonborn wrote:

so sad T_T

he is the best player on team.


To clarify, it will be ky.xy and Mushi swapping positions to play in Dota 2. Winter, Xtinct, Yamateh, Ice and ky.xy/Mushi. Can't wait to see Yamateh playing Dota again. If PH gets no representative, I'll be cheering for Orange.

But i want to see full time Mushi!!!!!
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 14 2012 14:16 GMT
#11084
On May 14 2012 23:11 Kipsate wrote:
he means for Shadow Fiend


i thought so but i still dont get it. maybe my definition of micromanagement is wrong?
pressing one key to activate it doesnt really constitute it.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 14 2012 14:18 GMT
#11085
No, he means that if one can play Shadowfiend as well as Yaphets can, then Jangos/phase is a very good option as it allows extreme mobility which, with good micromanagement(especially in Razes) that you are able to make use of the items.
WriterXiao8~~
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 14:22:05
May 14 2012 14:21 GMT
#11086
Drums is for landing razes right? makes sense if your sick sick good.
Can someone tell me how phase and drums work together? I assume their actives dont stack?
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 14:26:00
May 14 2012 14:25 GMT
#11087
They should actually stack.

And meh on the micromanagement part.
With phase and a yasha you should already be faster than 90% of the heroes.
Im not saying Yaphets doesnt make better use of it than most other players but id say the cases that he gets an extra kill with his drums that a slightly worse player doesnt get are insignificant.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 14 2012 14:28 GMT
#11088
Jangoo is just a good item because its very cost efficient and gives SF some extra hp from the 9 strength while giving him speed.
WriterXiao8~~
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 14 2012 14:30 GMT
#11089
jango on sf, or on any agility carry in general, is to do better in midgame skirmishes and teamfights. if you're not really concentrating on that then you dont really get it.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 14 2012 14:31 GMT
#11090
I dont disagree, janggo is awesome. I just think its a bit of a waste on SF unless youre planning to end the game early.
There are better uses for his inventory.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
May 14 2012 14:33 GMT
#11091
?
He is clearly a momentum hero. 1 kill matters.

You're essentially saying that the most cost efficient way for one of the top sf players ever is a waste of his inventory.
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 14 2012 14:35 GMT
#11092
On May 14 2012 23:33 Ack1027 wrote:
?
He is clearly a momentum hero. 1 kill matters.

You're essentially saying that the most cost efficient way for one of the top sf players ever is a waste of his inventory.


Im saying that whether he has the janggo or not wont have an influence on him getting the kill 98% of the time.
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 14 2012 14:37 GMT
#11093
Also lets not forget a janggo costs nearly 2k gold.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
May 14 2012 15:07 GMT
#11094
That's... really cheap. What else would you get? Dagger? BKB? Dagger costs more and you have to buy it in one swipe. Mithril Hammer for your BKB costs almost as much. You build Janggo from two ~500 component items that are great early on.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
May 14 2012 15:17 GMT
#11095
You guys really underestimate the efficiency of a Jango, and my personal favorite item on SF.

SF in the current meta-game is one of the easiest heroes to shut down, and incredibly squishy. Like people said he is a momentum hero, you don't just afk farm 50 minutes with a SF because you are infact similar to an intelligence hero at level 7. You reach your PEAK power of killing at 7-11ish assuming you can land your razes. You need mobility, survivability, and mana to snowball at that level - Jango fulfills every desire an aggressive SF could want at that stage of the game.

End of the day, you really don't want to go to end-game vs a Void or PA or Lycan without hindering them. They are FOOD to you if you even land 2 razes on them. Shut them down while you can....SF is one of the hardest heroes to play for a reason.

.
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
May 14 2012 15:19 GMT
#11096
linken's on morphling: generally good, situationally good, or generally bad?

I've been skipping it by going tranqs,aquila,manta with mixed results.
it's my first day
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
May 14 2012 15:20 GMT
#11097
On May 14 2012 19:51 Yoshi- wrote:
I am pretty sure that ex-Quantic, doesn't use DD as their name, dont think that list is real.


Well they technically don't have a name then. And if its fake, thats probably not the reason why, keep in mind if it IS real (probably isn't) then Valve is the one making the list, and thus, dd might just be what Valve refers to ex-quantic by.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
May 14 2012 15:30 GMT
#11098
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
May 14 2012 15:32 GMT
#11099
If you go treads the best next Item is bkb, sange is useless.
If you go Phase you normally also need to get a bracer for the HP. And turning this bracer into a Jango is always good.

Sange makes absolute no sense on a nevermore.
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
May 14 2012 15:35 GMT
#11100
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