• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:52
CEST 22:52
KST 05:52
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview4[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13
Community News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !11Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results MaNa leaves Team Liquid
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week 89 2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes
Brood War
General
Data needed BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Pros React to: TvT Masterclass in FlaSh vs Light BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [BSL22] RO8 Bracket Stage + Another TieBreaker [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread YouTube Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
Travel Agencies vs Online Booking Platforms The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1475 users

General Discussion - Page 553

Forum Index > Dota 2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 551 552 553 554 555 6534 Next
IRC chatter should remain in IRC - http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=tl.dota2

Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
May 14 2012 07:05 GMT
#11041
You mean it DOESNT count if I leave right away?
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
May 14 2012 07:06 GMT
#11042
5 treants running from a Sing's sf? np blink > req to kill

ffxiv enjoyer
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
May 14 2012 07:13 GMT
#11043
On May 14 2012 16:05 Catch]22 wrote:
You mean it DOESNT count if I leave right away?


You still get an abandon if leave after you load. The game simply doesn't count as a win or a loss for either team until after FB/rosh/tower/5mins.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
May 14 2012 07:24 GMT
#11044
On May 14 2012 16:06 DoNotDisturb wrote:
5 treants running from a Sing's sf? np blink > req to kill


Lothar prophet? np, blink > etheral > req > random raze 3 seconds later to kill
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 14 2012 07:42 GMT
#11045
hmm i think they added some extra element into match making other than just elo. Recently when i try to snipe Sing_sing, i have the same setting as he does and he find a match in 2 mins while mine was 7-9 mins. My average wait time for having 3 severs + 3 game modes enabled is 5-6 mins while all sever wait time is 3+ mins ... This is around 5-9PM Eastern time which is generally rush hour for gaming. There must be something that attached to my account which make it harder to find people to play with? I am not in leaver queue ever btw.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
tripledoubles
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia213 Posts
May 14 2012 08:00 GMT
#11046
On May 14 2012 16:42 NB wrote:
hmm i think they added some extra element into match making other than just elo. Recently when i try to snipe Sing_sing, i have the same setting as he does and he find a match in 2 mins while mine was 7-9 mins. My average wait time for having 3 severs + 3 game modes enabled is 5-6 mins while all sever wait time is 3+ mins ... This is around 5-9PM Eastern time which is generally rush hour for gaming. There must be something that attached to my account which make it harder to find people to play with? I am not in leaver queue ever btw.


Then you most likely are a different MMR to SingSing that has a lower available player pool
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
May 14 2012 08:22 GMT
#11047
You are plain unlucky, or clearly not as skilled as you think you are.


I'm guessing the latter : |
Hates Fun🤔
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 09:10:40
May 14 2012 09:07 GMT
#11048
--- Nuked ---
Dankleteer
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1430 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 09:15:20
May 14 2012 09:14 GMT
#11049
An invite list for the international leaked over at joindota.... thoughts?

http://forum.gamesports.net/dota/showthread.php?4495-The-International-Invite-list-leaked

edit: A random link on joindota seems pretty dubious, I'm not saying this is legit or anything, but worth a look.
fresh chops
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
May 14 2012 09:18 GMT
#11050
--- Nuked ---
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
May 14 2012 09:24 GMT
#11051
On May 14 2012 18:14 Dankleteer wrote:
An invite list for the international leaked over at joindota.... thoughts?

http://forum.gamesports.net/dota/showthread.php?4495-The-International-Invite-list-leaked

edit: A random link on joindota seems pretty dubious, I'm not saying this is legit or anything, but worth a look.

While the final list may look pretty similar to this, I wouldn't give it any legitimacy.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 09:38:28
May 14 2012 09:35 GMT
#11052
Errrr my dota is acting up, everything is super slow to load, just got into a game where i had no pick screen but other people where picking. So I disced and hoped to come back to join back in but there was no option to rejoin game....?
oO

Edit - Managed to get back in other people couldn't pick, so one team had 4 players and the other 2. This a new bug?
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 14 2012 10:12 GMT
#11053
On May 14 2012 17:22 paper wrote:
You are plain unlucky, or clearly not as skilled as you think you are.


I'm guessing the latter : |

considering i stream snipe him often and all the people im playing with get matched with him... not really. also this is not about stream sniping, its just my average search time is insanely higher than normal people and i have been enabling every sever everymode that i could play on otherwise i would have to wait 9-10 mins a game. I also notice that majority of the time my team has a stack or 2 in it, wondering if they see me solo queue too much so they have to find stack for me to play with? ~_~....

on another note: what is the best core item for SF after BKB? i tried dagger but i just died too fast and ultimate orb is just too lame... I also notice a lot of people skip the aura for stat for a bit more tanky? thought on that?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Cres
Profile Joined November 2008
United States227 Posts
May 14 2012 10:21 GMT
#11054
SF's items really depend on the other team composition. For example if they don't have a lot of small CC's and just have things like black hole, warlock ult, BM ult. BKB is not necessarily the best choice.

That being said, usually BKB -> Manta.

And some people level aura only once and then some stats to get more tanky, depends on the game again.
Fae
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 14 2012 10:25 GMT
#11055
On May 14 2012 19:12 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 17:22 paper wrote:
You are plain unlucky, or clearly not as skilled as you think you are.


I'm guessing the latter : |

considering i stream snipe him often and all the people im playing with get matched with him... not really. also this is not about stream sniping, its just my average search time is insanely higher than normal people and i have been enabling every sever everymode that i could play on otherwise i would have to wait 9-10 mins a game. I also notice that majority of the time my team has a stack or 2 in it, wondering if they see me solo queue too much so they have to find stack for me to play with? ~_~....

on another note: what is the best core item for SF after BKB? i tried dagger but i just died too fast and ultimate orb is just too lame... I also notice a lot of people skip the aura for stat for a bit more tanky? thought on that?


be a man.
dagger, linkens, eblade, refresher.

and ive seen singsing skip the aura for stats.. but hes singsing.

id give you serious advice but i rarely play sf.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 10:42:06
May 14 2012 10:31 GMT
#11056
On May 14 2012 18:18 Dattish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 18:14 Dankleteer wrote:
An invite list for the international leaked over at joindota.... thoughts?

http://forum.gamesports.net/dota/showthread.php?4495-The-International-Invite-list-leaked

edit: A random link on joindota seems pretty dubious, I'm not saying this is legit or anything, but worth a look.

Pretty much expected. Just a bit confused to why they'd invite Duskbin. But I guess they want some pinoy representation.

because they want pinoy, but mineski has been doing terribly lately. also i think they may be underrated in the scene atm.

some of the chinese teams will probably go bingeing on dota2 just to get some noticeable results
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 14 2012 10:33 GMT
#11057
One of the new builds for SF is:
Phase boots into drum into manta and build to deal sustained DPS trough auto attacks.

Works wonders for me, i get BKB either after manta or after i get another DPS item(and sometimes HotD if needed(plus it lets me stack ancients for bonus farm))


But yea, i haven't tested it too much yet, but works great for me.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 14 2012 10:37 GMT
#11058
i think drum is just a bit too excessive on SF. Often in time i dont need those extra stat and with the price of drum, i could buy much better items. That being said, if YaphetS said drum is good, i cant really argue... Just not my style i guess
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 14 2012 10:43 GMT
#11059
that phase into drum into manta is basically my potm build :p
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
May 14 2012 10:50 GMT
#11060
^ you can try the oldschool sf build :D i have mine saved up here:
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/577828205241201249/43C2782368D1687FF3F8595532256F73FCA5B2B7/
i like to do sny if i see there are quite some burst damage in oppo team, otherwise just make yasha into manta. and then after satanic you can go divine.

dagger is best for positioning raze/ulti but i find that sf is no longer a top tier carry hero (he is fcking hard to play in high level game imo), mainly due to there are many other better carry options. and the nice thing you can do with dagger is that press ulti and then blink in, the small delay of the ulti casting anime allows you to do some nice move.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Prev 1 551 552 553 554 555 6534 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
19:00
RO8 - Day 2
OyAji vs JDConan
DragOn vs TBD
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 528
Ketroc 0
StarCraft: Brood War
ZZZero.O 330
firebathero 245
Shine 9
Dota 2
monkeys_forever364
LuMiX1
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu411
Other Games
Grubby25396
summit1g7652
Liquid`RaSZi2924
tarik_tv2250
FrodaN1293
Beastyqt1124
B2W.Neo643
Pyrionflax187
Livibee64
ToD13
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1451
StarCraft 2
angryscii 88
Other Games
BasetradeTV53
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Sammyuel 46
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• musti20045 0
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1746
• Scarra821
• Shiphtur297
Upcoming Events
OSC
3h 8m
Replay Cast
12h 8m
Monday Night Weeklies
19h 8m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
The PondCast
1d 13h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 14h
GSL
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
GSL
3 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Classic vs SHIN
Rogue vs Bunny
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Flash vs Soma
RSL Revival
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W7
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
Heroes Pulsing #1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.