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SirMilford
Australia1269 Posts
On May 14 2012 10:51 NB wrote: Brace yourself, the Mangix jokes are coming.... on another note, what is a good IH league to join these days to find a team? NADL/Esahara/IGDL??? I am also interested in this! Everytime i try to make a group with amtes they all refuse to improve! Probably have better time attempting to find a team. | ||
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Hoban
United States1600 Posts
On May 14 2012 10:51 NB wrote: Brace yourself, the Mangix jokes are coming.... on another note, what is a good IH league to join these days to find a team? NADL/Esahara/IGDL??? Third this. I like playing inhouses but I don't feel like I am getting that much better with the current TL ones. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
NADL: 95% chance that you will not like it due to people being too ' low skill ' or ' dumb league '. Esahara: Typical euro only circle jerk with people who don't follow rules and almost always want to play cookie cutter with .cl's. Nobody plays alone, it's +2 or +3 majority of the time. IGDL: You won't get in. Exp: I am/was vouched in NADL/Esahara. It's not an insult to you that you won't get into IGDL, it's just how it is right now. If you wanna find a team, you have to make one through friends. Join a tournament or something with some friends you have. Exposure of yourself is good for a team, but its a very small chance to find a team in a inhouse league. | ||
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Kuzmorgo
Hungary1058 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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wurm
Philippines2296 Posts
On May 14 2012 10:34 NB wrote: Assume he stays at mineski, there is a very slim chance of that team being invited to TI2 since they have no real result in dota2. Even if they got to TI2, the 1 mil isnt free and they have to compete with teams like Navi, AL or DK Zenith. In the end that 1 mil will have to split in 5 and possibly some % going into team itself. Better off just sign a transfer contract and get some guarantee cash haha :D Is this about JuLz? IMO, he isn't really a loss for Mineski. They got Nando from MSIevoGT, the 15 year old prodigy, to replace him. I've watched his play, he is really really good. On par with Bimbo/Jay. He needs a little refinement, sure, but he has chemistry with the Mineski team and that's the most important factor. Downside is, I think he has little to no practice in Dota 2. I expect good things from Mineski in the future. On May 14 2012 02:47 dragonborn wrote: so sad T_T he is the best player on team. To clarify, it will be ky.xy and Mushi swapping positions to play in Dota 2. Winter, Xtinct, Yamateh, Ice and ky.xy/Mushi. Can't wait to see Yamateh playing Dota again. If PH gets no representative, I'll be cheering for Orange. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On May 14 2012 11:51 Ack1027 wrote: There is no inhouse that is good to ' find a team ' NADL: 95% chance that you will not like it due to people being too ' low skill ' or ' dumb league '. Esahara: Typical euro only circle jerk with people who don't follow rules and almost always want to play cookie cutter with .cl's. Nobody plays alone, it's +2 or +3 majority of the time. IGDL: You won't get in. Exp: I am/was vouched in NADL/Esahara. It's not an insult to you that you won't get into IGDL, it's just how it is right now. If you wanna find a team, you have to make one through friends. Join a tournament or something with some friends you have. Exposure of yourself is good for a team, but its a very small chance to find a team in a inhouse league. but i play computer games alone and have no friends... wat do?  | ||
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SirMilford
Australia1269 Posts
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
I only sign nadl games when some friends or people I recognize as very skilled play. For me its a personal choice since I'm not really a inhouse grinder type person, I'd rather play with people I know. You will be flamed a lot harder since there's more record keeping, points, and people will remember your name. I guess you can make some connections, try out for a team....I know how it is, back in dota1 I had to come from scratch too to join a bunch of leagues and get a profile to be able to get into all the leagues that went up and down almost quarterly. It's just how competitive dota is. All the up and coming/established NA teams played together for years. The only league I played a LOT was original ihcs/idec. There was a high emphasis on manner and skill. People didn't abuse bot and it was just fun cuz lots of big names played regularly. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
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The Great Taste
389 Posts
There are a few main problems for people wanting to play in ODL: 1. Because 99% of players are AUS/NZ, majority of games will be played during nighttime in these countries (no idea how this lines up with the rest of SEA/USA). 2. It's not extremely active atm 3. The skill level varies a lot from player to player. The main problem is there are many "hogs" who don't play support a lot (some are good, some not so good), though I'm willing to wager that this can be the case in any IH league. In saying that, there are definitely very good players that do play here (from teams aL, BP and sqL if you pay attention to Gigabyte Masters) As Ack1027 notes, not sure if there is a "good" league for finding a team. I think to do this you have to post on forums (such as Joindota recruitment forum) or get on good terms with players in any IH league (impress them with your play or something  ). Maybe we could start up a "recruitment" thread for the Dota 2 forum here? | ||
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Quotidian
Norway1937 Posts
On May 14 2012 13:33 The Great Taste wrote: Maybe we could start up a "recruitment" thread for the Dota 2 forum here? I think someone should do that.. and not just for serious teams. I'd really like to find a group of people to play with where you wouldn't get your head bitten off for fucking up | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
I thought if someone left before the first minute then the game wouldn't count? Not that I'm complaining as we deserved that win, but I'm just curious as to how the abandonment rules work because it seems like the game is saying one thing and doing another. Either way there should definitely be a way to enforce a loss on people who just leave if their level 1 roshan fails. It's like 4 pooling on ladder and then leaving and getting a draw if it fails, so bm. | ||
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wurm
Philippines2296 Posts
On May 14 2012 13:56 writer22816 wrote: Anyone know how the abandonment rules work? I just played a game where enemy team picked Ursa/SK/Lich. I got my team to go to Roshan and we managed to stop their Lvl 1 Roshan, at which point SK and Ursa immediately left. The game immediately recorded that as an early abandon and said that stats didn't count, but in the end the Huskar on our team stayed in the game and won it, and now it's displayed in my recent games, and I think I ended up getting the win. I thought if someone left before the first minute then the game wouldn't count? Not that I'm complaining as we deserved that win, but I'm just curious as to how the abandonment rules work because it seems like the game is saying one thing and doing another. Either way there should definitely be a way to enforce a loss on people who just leave if their level 1 roshan fails. It's like 4 pooling on ladder and then leaving and getting a draw if it fails, so bm. Their leaving doesn't count as a lost game. It counts as an abandoned game. Too many abandoned games and their wait times get longer IIRC. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On May 14 2012 13:33 The Great Taste wrote: I have mentioned this before, but there is the relatively new Oceanic Dota 2 League that was set up. I don't know how the skill level compares to other leagues though. While called "Oceanic," pretty sure anyone can join provided that you are up to standard. All games are played on USW unless the server is down. There are a few main problems for people wanting to play in ODL: 1. Because 99% of players are AUS/NZ, majority of games will be played during nighttime in these countries (no idea how this lines up with the rest of SEA/USA). 2. It's not extremely active atm 3. The skill level varies a lot from player to player. The main problem is there are many "hogs" who don't play support a lot (some are good, some not so good), though I'm willing to wager that this can be the case in any IH league. In saying that, there are definitely very good players that do play here (from teams aL, BP and sqL if you pay attention to Gigabyte Masters) As Ack1027 notes, not sure if there is a "good" league for finding a team. I think to do this you have to post on forums (such as Joindota recruitment forum) or get on good terms with players in any IH league (impress them with your play or something ). Maybe we could start up a "recruitment" thread for the Dota 2 forum here?im confused... so ping from AUS to USW is better than to SEA (which is most likely to be in SGN)?? | ||
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The Great Taste
389 Posts
On May 14 2012 14:00 wurm wrote: Their leaving doesn't count as a lost game. It counts as an abandoned game. Too many abandoned games and their wait times get longer IIRC. It does count as a loss as well in addition to abandoned. I don't know why you got the win I think I've gotten a win a similar way before, but it shouldn't count. On May 14 2012 14:27 NB wrote: im confused... so ping from AUS to USW is better than to SEA (which is most likely to be in SGN)?? A major ISP in Australia (Optus) reroutes all internet traffic that is not sent to a location within Australia to the United States first (something along those lines, I'm not a tech expert but you get the idea hopefully). Hence, for people using this ISP, if we were to use SEA server then it basically goes AUS ===> US ===> SEA. Hence, USW is the best server for us. When I played a bit of TLIH I played on EU server and even that had a better ping than SEA (though I think SEA servers are a bit better now for Optus, USW/USE are still superior by far). It's the same for people playing SC2 I believe (US is better than SEA) and most likely all other games. | ||
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Skullflower
United States3779 Posts
On May 14 2012 13:41 Quotidian wrote: I think someone should do that.. and not just for serious teams. I'd really like to find a group of people to play with where you wouldn't get your head bitten off for fucking up This would be cool. | ||
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Dattish
Sweden6297 Posts
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Hoban
United States1600 Posts
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
On May 14 2012 15:22 Dattish wrote: It still counts if fb is drawn, rosh dies or a tower falls. Excellent, thanks! | ||
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