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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 16:01:29
May 13 2012 15:53 GMT
#10981
On May 14 2012 00:27 Unleashing wrote:
Don't bring this up again, please, let it die.

He's just taken it to PM with me, don't worry. (I'm not saying what the content of the PMs are because that's against TL tos and BM). It's fine to just say that he's PM'd me about it, right? If not I'll edit this out.

edit :
Also Next.kz uses ursa to varying levels of success* and MC cannon rushed Idra on more than one occasion.

*i personally believe their wins with him were because they took their opponents by surprise more than anything else
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 16:25:22
May 13 2012 16:18 GMT
#10982
On May 13 2012 20:08 paralleluniverse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 19:52 TheYango wrote:
On May 13 2012 19:49 paralleluniverse wrote:
I added more to that post:
You also can't repick based on what the opponent has picked, like in AP. and this means that the game is somewhat determined by hero choice, before the game has started. Build orders happen after the game has started, and you can react to your opponents build order by changing yours. You cannot react to your opponents hero choice by changing your hero.

The fact that CM is even needed shows how imbalanced some of the heroes intrinsically are, it's not an argument for DotA being a paragon of perfect balance.

You can't repick your heroes, just like you can't unmake buildings and units that you've already made. But you CAN alter how you ban/pick the remaining heroes in the draft, and you can alter your item choices once you're in the game.

You can't entirely change your build order after you scout something. You can only alter the portions that you have not yet completed. Likewise you can alter your draft based on what your opponent picks, but only the picks that occur after theirs.

The analogy is ridiculous. Build orders generally do not matter beyond the first several minutes unless you're planning to 6 pool or something like that, because it's possible to change build orders. 15 minutes into the game, the buildings you've built but cannot unbuild are essentially irrelevant. The same is not true in DotA, what you can do depends on what heroes you've picked, and what heroes your opponents have picked. This is unchangeable. In SC2, you can go siege tanks with whatever build order you choose, in DotA, the same doesn't apply. If heroes are build orders, then build orders don't matter that much in a mid-game and beyond of SC2, while they matter a lot in DotA 2 from beginning to end. As a result the choices you made at the start about heroes, which isn't really part of the game is a much larger determining factor to the outcome of the game, than the buildings you've made in SC2 before you've scouted the opponent.



Lol.


If you expended a bunch of gas into tech and upgrades and all of a sudden he mid game timing pushes you are fucked. Honestly, you have demonstrated the following in this thread

1) You are stubborn
2) You are bad at DotA 2; it is clearly evident. Only bad players complain about Ursa.
3) You have 0 clue how to run a simple statistical analysis.
4) You have no idea about Starcraft 2 also.


Either one, you're actually that dumb, or two, you're just a huge fucking troll. All there is to it.
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
May 13 2012 16:42 GMT
#10983
--- Nuked ---
SQWKZ
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland720 Posts
May 13 2012 16:46 GMT
#10984
No need to repeat the past 10 pages and also be insulting while at it...

SO how about that neo-Quantic team, eh? Looking good, maybe even a lock-for-the-international good atm, amirite? I'm also hoping for virtus to go on a winning streak and make it to the event. So excited already!
So zen.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 13 2012 16:56 GMT
#10985
On May 14 2012 01:46 SQWKZ wrote:
No need to repeat the past 10 pages and also be insulting while at it...

SO how about that neo-Quantic team, eh? Looking good, maybe even a lock-for-the-international good atm, amirite? I'm also hoping for virtus to go on a winning streak and make it to the event. So excited already!

european slots will be competitive, so darer clg virtus.pro m5 etc etc etc will have to do at dreamhack
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
May 13 2012 17:03 GMT
#10986
On May 13 2012 19:07 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 18:55 Emnjay808 wrote:
ugh, i just played a game with Riki.

i dont like the new silence effect after he blinks.

but i suppose its needed for balance since hes so strong. T_T


i can't find the patch notes, riki has been nerfed?


I didnt see it a Riki change in patch notes either. But it seems right after you Blink Strike he gets a .5 sec silence. I find this pretty annoying since I usually like to Blink > Smoke. But now I guess I have to get used to Smoke > Blink from now on.
Skol
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 13 2012 17:10 GMT
#10987
I think it's because he's meant to attack straight after blinking and unlike in DotA it gave you a space to cast smoke where you shouldn't normally be able to cast spells, but i haven't tested it to check.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
May 13 2012 17:10 GMT
#10988
--- Nuked ---
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
May 13 2012 17:41 GMT
#10989
ice comfirmed its going to be fixed in the next update
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 17:57:54
May 13 2012 17:47 GMT
#10990
why Mushi is coaching insteaded of playing? or he will play at TI2? im not sure because orange have six player in their roster.

anyway, he is amazing T_T
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 13 2012 18:28 GMT
#10991
Sometimes i forget how many people are actually still playing DotA1 world-wide :D
+ Show Spoiler +
20+ million

DotA2 has so much potential.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 13 2012 19:43 GMT
#10992
Alche why are you so bad :C
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 19:46:24
May 13 2012 19:46 GMT
#10993
My order was late (20 days) so I went to amazon's website to ask for support, and guess who is working there?
[image loading]
EGM guides me
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 13 2012 20:13 GMT
#10994
I hope he didn't bash you.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
May 13 2012 21:29 GMT
#10995
Did he give you cheese?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 21:50:39
May 13 2012 21:35 GMT
#10996
paralleluniverse was just temp banned for 2 weeks by GMarshal.

That account was created on 2010-07-12 23:20:50 and had 1197 posts.

Reason: Stop trolling. It is neither amusing nor witty.

puzzyfuzzy >_<

i think he wasnt trolling :D
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
May 13 2012 21:40 GMT
#10997
On May 14 2012 01:46 SQWKZ wrote:
No need to repeat the past 10 pages and also be insulting while at it...

SO how about that neo-Quantic team, eh? Looking good, maybe even a lock-for-the-international good atm, amirite? I'm also hoping for virtus to go on a winning streak and make it to the event. So excited already!

Played against Korok and Solara, fun times, they definitely are super fucking good. I watch Mikeys stream whenever it is up as well. I have become mega fans of theirs. I am hoping them and coL get invites to TI2. I think right now they really rely on "Let Solara, PIG, Mikey, and LastHitMagic set up the early->midgame so then Korok can just beastmode it up and win." Similar to how Darer.G is highly integral to Darers success. But watching them play more and more, I think they have more than just that trick up their sleeve. They pull out some interesting strategies and so far they are on a winning rampage. I think they can keep it up, they definitely have the talent.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
May 13 2012 22:08 GMT
#10998
On May 14 2012 01:56 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 01:46 SQWKZ wrote:
No need to repeat the past 10 pages and also be insulting while at it...

SO how about that neo-Quantic team, eh? Looking good, maybe even a lock-for-the-international good atm, amirite? I'm also hoping for virtus to go on a winning streak and make it to the event. So excited already!

european slots will be competitive, so darer clg virtus.pro m5 etc etc etc will have to do at dreamhack

Pretty sure that ex quantic will have its slot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
May 13 2012 22:12 GMT
#10999
On May 14 2012 07:08 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 01:56 rabidch wrote:
On May 14 2012 01:46 SQWKZ wrote:
No need to repeat the past 10 pages and also be insulting while at it...

SO how about that neo-Quantic team, eh? Looking good, maybe even a lock-for-the-international good atm, amirite? I'm also hoping for virtus to go on a winning streak and make it to the event. So excited already!

european slots will be competitive, so darer clg virtus.pro m5 etc etc etc will have to do at dreamhack

Pretty sure that ex quantic will have its slot

Probably, but it's far from guaranteed. There's a lot of good European teams besides them, and it depends a lot on how many Asian teams are invited.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
May 13 2012 22:19 GMT
#11000
On May 14 2012 03:28 Unleashing wrote:
Sometimes i forget how many people are actually still playing DotA1 world-wide :D
+ Show Spoiler +
20+ million

DotA2 has so much potential.

when its free, itll be booming. People with bad computers will suffer though
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
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