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Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 10:54:50
May 09 2012 10:46 GMT
#10341
On May 09 2012 19:43 paschl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 19:42 zeru wrote:
I hope unstable teams like mouz actually dont get invited.


i hope singsing reads this and throws a mask of madness in your face.


nah man, singsing will just get mom+basher and make rape

also, friend just pointed out to me

all teams will be nervously anticipating an invite and hoping to participate in the event that had featured the prizepool of $1 million dollars


?
ffxiv enjoyer
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
May 09 2012 10:58 GMT
#10342
On May 09 2012 19:42 zeru wrote:
I hope unstable teams like mouz actually dont get invited.


exactly why i am hating twista so much. even if they got the 5th soon enough AND get invited, mouz is still probably gonna get rolled.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
May 09 2012 11:16 GMT
#10343
--- Nuked ---
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 11:20:55
May 09 2012 11:18 GMT
#10344
It's kinda sad how they don't hold at least a few qualifiers for this. Teams that win deserve a spot whether or not the people who send the invites thinks so. But then I guess it wouldn't be called an invitational. If you're holding a million dollar tournament it shouldn't be made up of just a small number of teams anyway. Now I'm just wondering if coL and ex gosu will be invited. They aren't the best, but they've gone toe to toe with just about everyone, although imo ex gosu is definitely better.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
May 09 2012 11:22 GMT
#10345
They have Qualifiers
Every other tournament,
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
May 09 2012 11:24 GMT
#10346
Below the obvious na'vi, CLG, m5 there's a gray area where it's hard to determine who's better than who. When it comes down to that they should just host a tournament and see who wins out.
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
May 09 2012 11:26 GMT
#10347
On May 09 2012 20:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Below the obvious na'vi, CLG, m5 there's a gray area where it's hard to determine who's better than who. When it comes down to that they should just host a tournament and see who wins out.


Dreamhack
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 09 2012 11:28 GMT
#10348
those invites look pretty.
WriterXiao8~~
The Great Taste
Profile Joined January 2012
389 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 11:46:06
May 09 2012 11:39 GMT
#10349
May be OK for 2-4 qualifier spots, but you want to reward teams for consistent performance and stability rather than just peaking at the right time, so inviting teams is good in that sense. There are also factors such as using stand-ins and needing to play qualifiers online more than likely rather than having a LAN tourney for it.

EDIT: I suppose that having invitational qualifiers for the last 8 spots or so is better because there are probably many teams who are about the same level.

I wonder if they will look to invite teams from all continents. Last time there were no teams from Oceania, South America or Africa. Almost surely aL will get invited, but I don't know about the other 2 continents. I have never even heard of any teams from Africa, but maybe paiN from Brazil could get an invite? (Only South American team I know). The problem, of course, are these relatively unknown teams may just get steamrolled.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 12:54:46
May 09 2012 12:54 GMT
#10350
If stability plays a factor in who they send invites to then ehome is unlikely to get an invite. Hell, even some of the other chinese teams which deserve one would be counted out (not that I'm saying ehome doesn't deserve an invite).
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
May 09 2012 13:02 GMT
#10351
On May 09 2012 21:54 Nevuk wrote:
If stability plays a factor in who they send invites to then ehome is unlikely to get an invite. Hell, even some of the other chinese teams which deserve one would be counted out (not that I'm saying ehome doesn't deserve an invite).


Tobi confirmed in a Q&A that stability is important.
ffxiv enjoyer
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 09 2012 13:03 GMT
#10352
On May 09 2012 22:02 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 21:54 Nevuk wrote:
If stability plays a factor in who they send invites to then ehome is unlikely to get an invite. Hell, even some of the other chinese teams which deserve one would be counted out (not that I'm saying ehome doesn't deserve an invite).


Tobi confirmed in a Q&A that stability is important.

The question is will they drop unstable but well performing teams? How important in other words.
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
scorch-
Profile Joined January 2011
United States816 Posts
May 09 2012 13:20 GMT
#10353
On May 09 2012 22:03 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 22:02 DoNotDisturb wrote:
On May 09 2012 21:54 Nevuk wrote:
If stability plays a factor in who they send invites to then ehome is unlikely to get an invite. Hell, even some of the other chinese teams which deserve one would be counted out (not that I'm saying ehome doesn't deserve an invite).


Tobi confirmed in a Q&A that stability is important.

The question is will they drop unstable but well performing teams? How important in other words.


My guess is that they will select the best teams that they *know* will attend the tournament.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 09 2012 13:32 GMT
#10354
The thing is, TI itself creates a lot of the instability. It's very apparent in recent player's interview, notably chinese players.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 13:45:14
May 09 2012 13:38 GMT
#10355
they should invite Orange for TI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Y-GOD and M-GOD will destroy everyone for 1 million dollar!!!!!!
SQWKZ
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland720 Posts
May 09 2012 13:51 GMT
#10356
The way I understood it is that they will send five separate personal invitations to the people that form a team. They must be able to keep the roster stable, so you can play at the tournament with the invited five. I don't think a currently-viable-for-invite team having swapped players recently will make too much of a difference, but after the invites go out, it'll be too late to shuffle.
So zen.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 09 2012 14:33 GMT
#10357
On May 09 2012 22:51 SQWKZ wrote:
The way I understood it is that they will send five separate personal invitations to the people that form a team. They must be able to keep the roster stable, so you can play at the tournament with the invited five. I don't think a currently-viable-for-invite team having swapped players recently will make too much of a difference, but after the invites go out, it'll be too late to shuffle.

This was the case for the first International. Several Chinese teams underwent major roster changes during the period between when invites went out and when the event happened (pretty much every team but EHOME), but at the International they were required to compete with the rosters that were in place at the time of invitation.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
May 09 2012 14:51 GMT
#10358
On May 09 2012 22:03 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 22:02 DoNotDisturb wrote:
On May 09 2012 21:54 Nevuk wrote:
If stability plays a factor in who they send invites to then ehome is unlikely to get an invite. Hell, even some of the other chinese teams which deserve one would be counted out (not that I'm saying ehome doesn't deserve an invite).


Tobi confirmed in a Q&A that stability is important.

The question is will they drop unstable but well performing teams? How important in other words.

He basically paused the Q&A and said, 'OKAY, let me make one thing clear, FINALISE YOUR TEAMS.'
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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
May 09 2012 15:15 GMT
#10359
Yeah this inconsistancy isn't good at all.......the game being in the Beta isn't a great excuse either, I don't want this to be an "indicator" of things to come. On a side note - Link needs to get picked up by a team !
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 09 2012 15:16 GMT
#10360
synderen said on stream "i am pretty sure we will get invited for TI2"

interesting... i am already predicting 0-3 for mTw.
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