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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 16:39:33
November 06 2013 16:34 GMT
#85701
On November 07 2013 01:28 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 01:26 Laurens wrote:
It's not even a nice looking courier.

Obviously it has nothing to do with appearances,


Yep. It's about rarity. If there is only one or two of them (or even just a few), you don't care if it looks like a pile of shit that moves.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 16:49:29
November 06 2013 16:40 GMT
#85702
oh my dear lord i just witnessed the funniest fail ever.
the rubick on the other team tried to gank me and stole morph but accidentally morphed agility instead of strength and instantly died so he was stuck with 450 hp for like the majority of the game haha.I was avoiding him all game long so he can't steal morph and get his strength back.lanaya was just walking around one shotting him like a creep
+ Show Spoiler +
dota2://matchid=373615482&matchtime=889 the game if someone wants to giggle
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
November 06 2013 16:43 GMT
#85703
On November 07 2013 01:40 TheKefka wrote:
oh my dear lord i just witnessed the funniest fail ever.
the rubick on the other team tried to gank me and stole morph but accidentally morphed agility instead of strength and instantly died so he was stuck with 450 hp for like the majority of the game haha.I was avoiding him all game long so he can't steal morph and get his strength back.lanaya was just walking around one shotting him like a creep
+ Show Spoiler +
http://dotabuff.com/matches/373615482 the game if someone wants to giggle

I'm going to have to give the obligatory reference to this video:

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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 06 2013 16:48 GMT
#85704
pink ethereal flames war dog? Sounds nice-enough looking to me
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Autotroph
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom940 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 17:11:00
November 06 2013 17:09 GMT
#85705
On November 06 2013 10:19 Testuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 10:17 SKC wrote:
On November 06 2013 10:12 TheYango wrote:
On November 06 2013 09:09 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Is it intended that if Rubick steals Bara's Charge and they use it and cross each other's path, it's Rubick who always(?) gets the short end of the straw.

Stealing Charge doesn't steal Greater Bash's current rank. You have to have a rank in Greater Bash to have the pass-through stun, so yes.

Is it intended that stealing Charge doesn't steak the ranks in Greater Bash though? Seems like an odd behavior if you consider how Spell Steal works with similar cases.

? no? That's exactly how spell steal is supposed to work. You only get the spell you steal. Like, if you put one lvl 1 charge and don't lvl great bash, then it's working like you had no levels yes? rubick only gets what he steals.


Counterexample: Eclipse. It would be pointless to steal it if it didn't passively inherit Luna's current Luscent Beam rank.

lol im pretty late to the party...
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Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 18:15:04
November 06 2013 17:24 GMT
#85706
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Graphics
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 06 2013 17:48 GMT
#85707
On November 07 2013 02:09 Autotroph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 10:19 Testuser wrote:
On November 06 2013 10:17 SKC wrote:
On November 06 2013 10:12 TheYango wrote:
On November 06 2013 09:09 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Is it intended that if Rubick steals Bara's Charge and they use it and cross each other's path, it's Rubick who always(?) gets the short end of the straw.

Stealing Charge doesn't steal Greater Bash's current rank. You have to have a rank in Greater Bash to have the pass-through stun, so yes.

Is it intended that stealing Charge doesn't steak the ranks in Greater Bash though? Seems like an odd behavior if you consider how Spell Steal works with similar cases.

? no? That's exactly how spell steal is supposed to work. You only get the spell you steal. Like, if you put one lvl 1 charge and don't lvl great bash, then it's working like you had no levels yes? rubick only gets what he steals.


Counterexample: Eclipse. It would be pointless to steal it if it didn't passively inherit Luna's current Luscent Beam rank.

lol im pretty late to the party...

Also, sceptor give rubic the upgrade for any ability he streals, even if the opponent does not have it. I do to see a problem with rubic getting abilities and the passive that makes those abilities better I a single steal.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 06 2013 17:52 GMT
#85708
On November 07 2013 02:09 Autotroph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 10:19 Testuser wrote:
On November 06 2013 10:17 SKC wrote:
On November 06 2013 10:12 TheYango wrote:
On November 06 2013 09:09 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Is it intended that if Rubick steals Bara's Charge and they use it and cross each other's path, it's Rubick who always(?) gets the short end of the straw.

Stealing Charge doesn't steal Greater Bash's current rank. You have to have a rank in Greater Bash to have the pass-through stun, so yes.

Is it intended that stealing Charge doesn't steak the ranks in Greater Bash though? Seems like an odd behavior if you consider how Spell Steal works with similar cases.

? no? That's exactly how spell steal is supposed to work. You only get the spell you steal. Like, if you put one lvl 1 charge and don't lvl great bash, then it's working like you had no levels yes? rubick only gets what he steals.


Counterexample: Eclipse. It would be pointless to steal it if it didn't passively inherit Luna's current Luscent Beam rank.

lol im pretty late to the party...

As I mentioned, it actually doesn't steal Lucent Beam rank in DotA 1. There's no official Valve/Icefrog stance, but the unofficial stance adopted by the Gameplay Bugs subforum mods on dev.dota2 is that this is intended, even though the DotA 2 interactions for these things is inconsistent.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 18:00:24
November 06 2013 17:54 GMT
#85709
On November 07 2013 02:52 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 02:09 Autotroph wrote:
On November 06 2013 10:19 Testuser wrote:
On November 06 2013 10:17 SKC wrote:
On November 06 2013 10:12 TheYango wrote:
On November 06 2013 09:09 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Is it intended that if Rubick steals Bara's Charge and they use it and cross each other's path, it's Rubick who always(?) gets the short end of the straw.

Stealing Charge doesn't steal Greater Bash's current rank. You have to have a rank in Greater Bash to have the pass-through stun, so yes.

Is it intended that stealing Charge doesn't steak the ranks in Greater Bash though? Seems like an odd behavior if you consider how Spell Steal works with similar cases.

? no? That's exactly how spell steal is supposed to work. You only get the spell you steal. Like, if you put one lvl 1 charge and don't lvl great bash, then it's working like you had no levels yes? rubick only gets what he steals.


Counterexample: Eclipse. It would be pointless to steal it if it didn't passively inherit Luna's current Luscent Beam rank.

lol im pretty late to the party...

As I mentioned, it actually doesn't steal Lucent Beam rank in DotA 1. There's no official Valve/Icefrog stance, but the unofficial stance adopted by the Gameplay Bugs subforum mods on dev.dota2 is that this is intended, even though the DotA 2 interactions for these things is inconsistent.

What interactions don't carry over in Dota 2? From what I remember Dota 2 was fairly consistent in this subject, more than Dota 1.

Synergy is the only one I can think of that I'm not really sure on how it works with Dota 2.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 18:12:33
November 06 2013 18:12 GMT
#85710
does rubick get the benefit from witchcraft when we steals Dprophets nuke or ult?
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 18:16:24
November 06 2013 18:16 GMT
#85711
On November 07 2013 03:12 PassiveAce wrote:
does rubick get the benefit from witchcraft when we steals Dprophets nuke or ult?

I believe he does, he also gets Multicast, but I'm not sure if it works correctly with Ignite as well, he gets souls from SF, orbs from Invoker, Greater Bash, etc.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
November 06 2013 18:18 GMT
#85712
yes
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 06 2013 18:18 GMT
#85713
Generally he gets spells "as cast" in D2, excepting for when he has aghs.

PS, wish we saw more DS/SF with blink combos. I think that would be awesome.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
November 06 2013 18:20 GMT
#85714
On November 07 2013 03:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
Generally he gets spells "as cast" in D2, excepting for when he has aghs.

PS, wish we saw more DS/SF with blink combos. I think that would be awesome.

Except when only one of the two heroes has Aghs, to be more precise.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 06 2013 18:21 GMT
#85715
Yeah, 6.79 took away his ability to get the aghs upgrade if the oppo had aghs but he didn't. RIP free-aghs viper ults.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
November 06 2013 18:27 GMT
#85716
On November 07 2013 03:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
Generally he gets spells "as cast" in D2, excepting for when he has aghs.

PS, wish we saw more DS/SF with blink combos. I think that would be awesome.

it cant get any more amazing than eesama/bone7 so why bother trying!
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 06 2013 19:24 GMT
#85717
On November 07 2013 03:16 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 03:12 PassiveAce wrote:
does rubick get the benefit from witchcraft when we steals Dprophets nuke or ult?

I believe he does, he also gets Multicast, but I'm not sure if it works correctly with Ignite as well, he gets souls from SF, orbs from Invoker, Greater Bash, etc.

He doesn't get CotS rank with Agha Global Silence, Multicast doesn't work with Ignite, and the Multicast effect on Fireblast is only partial (gets the increased mana cost, but not the decreased CD, IIRC).
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armada[sb]
Profile Joined August 2011
United States432 Posts
November 06 2013 20:13 GMT
#85718
Ahhh! I need a second monitor! So many awesome Dota games the last few days!
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8279 Posts
November 06 2013 21:18 GMT
#85719
Hmm. Just noticed that my pubstats page have been updated with info on which bracket my matches are placed in, only a few days ago. It also seems somewhat accurate. How are they finding this data after the patch which took the search for name in "recent games" thing out of the game?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 06 2013 21:29 GMT
#85720
You can't search for it directly, but IIRC someone on Reddit said there was still a way to find it. I don't remember how exactly though, but it is possible.
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