General Discussion - Page 380

On April 12 2012 20:52 greggy wrote:
pro_pinoy11

oh dearie me

1). I have infinite amount of time before the game to use the bathroom, but will wait 10 seconds before creep spawns to pause and ask for a second.

2). I will random and bitch about picks.

3). I will pick agility and bitch about support

4). I will pick support and bitch about mid

5). If you tell me I did something wrong, I will mute you. I must proclaim publicity I muted you, because I could just as easily let you waste your breath for the next 10 minutes, but that requires too much of a brain.

6). Bloodseeker double-lane: works miracles.

7). I will choose to get slammed by pulls, but at least I have 200 more starting gold

8). I threaten ‘Mid or Feed’, then go mid and feed, but not on purpose as I originally threatened.

9). I saw Lycan go into the woods. Not sure what he’s doing there. Lets check in about 10 minutes.

10). I am mad about someone; if you report a player, I will commend you.

11). I will copy a KingRaven classic of pausing right before someone dies and type an insult.

12). Pudge hook doesn’t reach that far, I know it f…..

13). I lost because team is stupid. I made no mistakes.

14). I will sit top, and watch enemies walk past wards, and assume I have enough time to escape.

15). In my mind, the list of games Gentleman play are: Polo, Golf, Cricket and DotA 2 – please watch the manners.

16). Forfeiting is for the mentally weak and uncompetitive. I’d rather waste 10 minutes more on a game instead of re-queuing.

17). I will taunt my opponents before I start losing, then I’m too cool for the game and have better things to do.

On April 12 2012 20:37 konadora wrote:
so i uh decided to troll around a bit


felt bad but good :p

btw if the team isn't going for push early on, i felt that balancing out dragon's blood and dragon's breath and skipping the ult was much better in controlling the lane

On April 12 2012 23:08 Slardar wrote:
Carry Tidehunter is best Tidehunter. ^^

On April 12 2012 20:37 konadora wrote:
so i uh decided to troll around a bit


felt bad but good :p

btw if the team isn't going for push early on, i felt that balancing out dragon's blood and dragon's breath and skipping the ult was much better in controlling the lane

On April 12 2012 20:37 konadora wrote:
so i uh decided to troll around a bit


felt bad but good :p

btw if the team isn't going for push early on, i felt that balancing out dragon's blood and dragon's breath and skipping the ult was much better in controlling the lane

On April 12 2012 23:43 Kipsate wrote:
Dragon Tail 400 range in Dragon Form is the stupidest shit ever, I have no idea why it was buffed like that and I am actually suprised that Dragon Knight isn't picked up more in Dota 2, he has Push, he has Antipush, he has lategame potential, he can lane Mid, he can do whatever the fuck he wants really.

Also, as MMR goes up indeed I feel like I can (almost) comfortably play support because my lanemates will be a fairly competent and if you have a good matchup against a nongood matchup, you will absolutely dominate the lane.

On April 13 2012 00:11 Percutio wrote:
I love dragon knight and I think he is really good, but he really isn't even something you have to counter while he does have counters (Minus armor, naix, OD). In other words, as long as you don't get dominated by the push (Which he shouldn't be the defining factor for), other carries can do more than fine against him with items. I do feel that he is really strong with items and a somewhat quick level 16. His core is gotten pretty fast and a lot of other carries don't have enough damage to kill him at that point. This is exaggerated by tower advantages which he can effectively help his team get. I love to see him in teams with strong semi carries, especially something like a Leshrac or Queen of Pain.

On April 13 2012 00:18 TheYango wrote:
Dragon Knight quite simply is the most well-rounded carry in the game as of 6.74.

He's strong in lane, a strong teamfighter at all stages of the game, a strong pusher, has a short-CD disable, has both AoE physical and magical damage, is ranged while also being very tanky...he's just very well-rounded. He may not be the "strongest" carry (whatever the hell that means), but he's a safe pick because of how versatile he is and how good he is at whatever tempo your team wants to play to.


I'm not sure how -armor and Na'ix counter Dragon Knight more than they do any other carry in the game. Both are naturally strong against heroes that have a lot of HP and very little armor--and having not enough armor is definitely not one of Dragon Knight's problems.

Dragon Knight gets picked/banned quite a bit in SEA/Chinese play (he just barely doesn't make the banlist in Chinese DotA 1, but without a lot of the high bans in the DotA 2 pool, he's very easily a bannable hero in this context). The only reason I can see for western teams not using him is simply just not having enough experience with the hero (there was that 1-2 week period a while back where everyone tried Dragon Knight, and then suddenly stopped, but in general, play on him seemed really unrefined.

On April 13 2012 00:38 Percutio wrote:
EG was using him a lot for a while. Also -armor is more efficient the closer to 0 you get it, so with DK's high armor and that being one of his strengths I find it is particularly effective. Na'ix is particularly good for similar reasons with DK's tankiness helping Nai'x out. Obviously they are both good things against other carries, but just particularly good against DK as it targets his strengths specifically. That would be my reasoning for that and I also feel that playing against any of those as DK makes it more difficult. Slardar with his minus armor feels difficult more so than Na'ix even because I feel like DK has breathing room against Na'ix like he does against any other particularly hard carry who needs lots of items while Slardar just ults you and you take a ton of extra damage.

I still wouldn't consider those reasons to not play him as I feel like he is still strong enough to be really useful even against those things which give him trouble, but I feel like the counters are a smart way to deal with Dragon Knight's carrying power.