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rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
April 11 2012 18:52 GMT
#7541
On April 12 2012 03:45 Kznn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 03:01 dragonborn wrote:
http://public.4pl.4players.de/index.php/en/team.info/32722/SK_Gaming_Dota2.html

KUROOOOOOOOOOOOKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WOOOOOOOOT


I think Merlini is the much bigger story still ^^
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-11 18:59:55
April 11 2012 18:56 GMT
#7542
On April 12 2012 03:52 rotegirte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 03:45 Kznn wrote:
On April 12 2012 03:01 dragonborn wrote:
http://public.4pl.4players.de/index.php/en/team.info/32722/SK_Gaming_Dota2.html

KUROOOOOOOOOOOOKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WOOOOOOOOT


I think Merlini is the much bigger story still ^^


merlini is a great player indeed. But I started playing dota because of kky. I used to see all his replays and copy his style. I play like a madman agressive motherfucker thanks to him :D
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
April 11 2012 18:57 GMT
#7543
On April 12 2012 03:56 Kznn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 03:52 rotegirte wrote:
On April 12 2012 03:45 Kznn wrote:
On April 12 2012 03:01 dragonborn wrote:
http://public.4pl.4players.de/index.php/en/team.info/32722/SK_Gaming_Dota2.html

KUROOOOOOOOOOOOKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WOOOOOOOOT


I think Merlini is the much bigger story still ^^


merlini is a great player indeed. But I started playing dota because of kky. I used to see all his replays and copy hes style. I play like a madman agressive motherfucker thanks to him :D

yes, same here.KuroKy was the best player of my time.

he is just something special for me :D
Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
April 11 2012 19:03 GMT
#7544
Tobi is awesome!!!
Vigoss choir going : "Vigoooossss"
LMAOOO
"They drone drone drone , me win" - JangMinChul(Iron/oGsMC)
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
April 11 2012 19:08 GMT
#7545
On April 12 2012 02:56 Unleashing wrote:
I still don't understand why people insist on upgrading their vit booster into vanguard on ranged heroes
It doesn't give more HP and there are other routes to routes to the regen.

But that's just my opinion, of course.


Since the last vanguard nerf, ranged heroes tend to go jango instead for the stats/damage.
Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
April 11 2012 20:09 GMT
#7546
On April 12 2012 01:43 Kupon3ss wrote:
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On April 12 2012 01:21 Percutio wrote:
To add on top of that Batrider can build extremely tanky and clears creep waves quickly. I would say his biggest fault is if he loses in lane he will have a hard time catching up and getting core items and subsequently doing well in ganks. Farming a fast blink on him is very strong, but he can also just get tank items like vanguard and hood/pipe especially if his team has another good initiator.


That's actually one of his greatest strengths, even if he gets destroyed in lane he can just meander into the jungle and clear 3-4 camps at a time with correct stacking and firefly, leading to an early blink pretty much no matter what you do. Basically he's shown to have no real weaknesses and will always be able to lasso a guy while drowning your team in a sea of flames, if you add in the new improvements on flamebreak you'll see why he's so ridiculous

While this is true (Particularly if you don't have a jungler clearing the camps out) I was more specifically talking about situations where you die on your early ganks. IMO 2-3 failed ganks or even just 1 if you die and get nothing later hurts him really bad. I think it is relevant when he has so many situations where his ganks/dives can be extremely aggressive and his insane early game window grows smaller from a failure early on.
What does it matter how I loose it?
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
April 11 2012 23:17 GMT
#7547
is Bristleback good?
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
April 11 2012 23:20 GMT
#7548
On April 12 2012 08:17 Whole wrote:
is Bristleback good?

No, at least for me.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
April 11 2012 23:20 GMT
#7549
in competetive play? no
in pubs, hilarious, though a lot of his strength depend on how the "heal" and "damage prevention" mechanics are coded in dota 2, since that's likely to be different, be might actually be far weaker than he was in dota1
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 11 2012 23:44 GMT
#7550
im confused... didnt tobi confirmed that kuroky isnt playing for SK? @_@
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-11 23:47:13
April 11 2012 23:46 GMT
#7551
On April 12 2012 08:44 NB wrote:
im confused... didnt tobi confirmed that kuroky isnt playing for SK? @_@

also tobi confirmed that kuroky didnt played for SK :D
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
April 11 2012 23:55 GMT
#7552
Bristleback used to be massively overpowered many many aeons ago. Auto ban in most tournaments.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 12 2012 00:07 GMT
#7553
hmm im currently seeking ways to use orb of venom :3... so far i can only think off sylla solo mid ~_~. Also how do you build storm in pub? i saw a lot of blood stone but i also see orchid times to times :-/

lastly, what is the item order you normally build on brood? I am currently doing soulring -> phaseboot -> vlad -> BKB. A lot of people tell me to skip vlad and get BKB earlier?
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
April 12 2012 00:09 GMT
#7554
Depends on what you're doing with your brood. Are you playing the carry role? Then get BKB first. Are you playing the pushing game? Then rush vlads.
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dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
April 12 2012 00:14 GMT
#7555
On April 12 2012 09:07 NB wrote:
hmm im currently seeking ways to use orb of venom :3... so far i can only think off sylla solo mid ~_~. Also how do you build storm in pub? i saw a lot of blood stone but i also see orchid times to times :-/

lastly, what is the item order you normally build on brood? I am currently doing soulring -> phaseboot -> vlad -> BKB. A lot of people tell me to skip vlad and get BKB earlier?

You need bloodstone on Storm, peoples make orchid due opponents heroes.

Also you dont need to make same items in everygame for brood, orchid is very common item for broodmother as well.

for your answer: if opponent have to many disables, go BKB first.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 00:25:56
April 12 2012 00:23 GMT
#7556
Bloodstone is actually fairly good for Storm after the buffs. Out of all the options, it gives the most well-rounded mix of mana/mana regen and survivability (Orchid/Sheep give you plenty of regen/mana but not a lot of HP, BKB makes you hard to kill but you run out of mana fast). Not necessarily what you need for every game, but its not a bad option to consider anymore.

Orchid is best for midgame solo-killing power. It gives you a lot of regen, and is great for ganking/solo-killing with the silence and damage amp. Probably best damage increase out of any of the options. It's also the weakest teamfighting item because it doesn't give you any HP.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
April 12 2012 00:45 GMT
#7557
treads > sheep or bkb or orchid is generally better but arcane > bloodstone is really fun
bloodstone's basically 5k for an item that doesn't give you any more killing power or usefulness in teamfights but lets you snowball really hard and regen mana really fast
orchid lets you solo people midgame
sheep is really good for ganks or teamfights
bkb is for teamfights, especially if they have a lot of disables to throw at you
dagon's also not bad if you're ahead and they have a lot of heroes to oneshot
linkens is good in some situations, generally a subpar item though

on brood vlads doesn't do very much
rob/boots/soulring > bkb if you plan to participate in teamfights or your opponents have a lot of disables
rob/boots > orchid > bkb if they don't have a lot of disables and you want to silence debuff. it lets you solo supports very quickly and can sometimes net kills on blinkers like am/qop/storm
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
April 12 2012 01:13 GMT
#7558
How come people don't abuse dire creep pulls as much as they should? You can pull the weak camp and then the one next to it to deny the entire wave without them being able to do anything (except spend another 100g to deny a weak camp).
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 12 2012 01:33 GMT
#7559
could sm mods check on MYMhyhy stream? i dont think its him streaming on that account.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 01:37:38
April 12 2012 01:36 GMT
#7560
[image loading]

Hannibal Lecter is fnaticRC.Era, ji is NaVi`Puppey :D

no mercy for fnaticRC.
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