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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 19:05:32
March 31 2012 19:05 GMT
#6221
On April 01 2012 04:03 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 04:02 Unleashing wrote:
On April 01 2012 03:57 Qbek wrote:
On April 01 2012 03:57 Unleashing wrote:
On April 01 2012 03:55 Qbek wrote:
On April 01 2012 03:53 Unleashing wrote:
This purge guy makes me sad everytime i watch him X_X
So many wrong things are said during just one cast.
Apparently veil REDUCES magic resistance? The hell?

Umm, it does?

No it doesn't.
It amplifies magic damage.

Same thing for 99% of people.


If it were to reduce magic resistance anti-mage, it would make his innate 62.5 magic resistance:
62.5/100*70=43.75 magic resistance.
Which means if he were to take 100 magic damage, it'd be reduced by 43.75.

On the other hand, if he were to take 100 magic damage that is amplified by 30% he'd take:

100/100*62.5=62.5
100-62.5=37.5*1.3=48.75 damage


43.75=/=48.75

I know how it works, still most people will say it reduces magic resistance.

But it doesn't, it factually does not reduce magic resistance.
It is not, regardless of what is written on the wiki :l
It'd be like saying that sprint/Mask of madness reduces your physical and magical resistances, while it amplifies damage taken which is a huge difference.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 31 2012 19:16 GMT
#6222
does crit offered from item synergize with crit from skills? like skeleton king? or lycanthrope's uti?
liftlift > tsm
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 31 2012 20:07 GMT
#6223
On April 01 2012 04:16 wei2coolman wrote:
does crit offered from item synergize with crit from skills? like skeleton king? or lycanthrope's uti?

http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Critical_strike
http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Item_Passive_Stacking#Chance_Stacking

That is to say, the probability of one of them proccing increases, but the crit isn't stacked.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
March 31 2012 20:21 GMT
#6224
On April 01 2012 03:53 Unleashing wrote:
This purge guy makes me sad everytime i watch him X_X
So many wrong things are said during just one cast.
Apparently veil REDUCES magic resistance? The hell?

Is this really something to go all whiny about? :/
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
March 31 2012 20:30 GMT
#6225
On April 01 2012 04:05 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 04:03 Qbek wrote:
On April 01 2012 04:02 Unleashing wrote:
On April 01 2012 03:57 Qbek wrote:
On April 01 2012 03:57 Unleashing wrote:
On April 01 2012 03:55 Qbek wrote:
On April 01 2012 03:53 Unleashing wrote:
This purge guy makes me sad everytime i watch him X_X
So many wrong things are said during just one cast.
Apparently veil REDUCES magic resistance? The hell?

Umm, it does?

No it doesn't.
It amplifies magic damage.

Same thing for 99% of people.


If it were to reduce magic resistance anti-mage, it would make his innate 62.5 magic resistance:
62.5/100*70=43.75 magic resistance.
Which means if he were to take 100 magic damage, it'd be reduced by 43.75.

On the other hand, if he were to take 100 magic damage that is amplified by 30% he'd take:

100/100*62.5=62.5
100-62.5=37.5*1.3=48.75 damage


43.75=/=48.75

I know how it works, still most people will say it reduces magic resistance.

But it doesn't, it factually does not reduce magic resistance.
It is not, regardless of what is written on the wiki :l
It'd be like saying that sprint/Mask of madness reduces your physical and magical resistances, while it amplifies damage taken which is a huge difference.


It's not much different than talking about random chances to crit or bash, WHEN AS WE ALL KNOW IT'S PSEUDORANDOM.

It's not something to get that bothered about.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 31 2012 20:45 GMT
#6226
On April 01 2012 05:30 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 04:05 Unleashing wrote:
On April 01 2012 04:03 Qbek wrote:
On April 01 2012 04:02 Unleashing wrote:
On April 01 2012 03:57 Qbek wrote:
On April 01 2012 03:57 Unleashing wrote:
On April 01 2012 03:55 Qbek wrote:
On April 01 2012 03:53 Unleashing wrote:
This purge guy makes me sad everytime i watch him X_X
So many wrong things are said during just one cast.
Apparently veil REDUCES magic resistance? The hell?

Umm, it does?

No it doesn't.
It amplifies magic damage.

Same thing for 99% of people.


If it were to reduce magic resistance anti-mage, it would make his innate 62.5 magic resistance:
62.5/100*70=43.75 magic resistance.
Which means if he were to take 100 magic damage, it'd be reduced by 43.75.

On the other hand, if he were to take 100 magic damage that is amplified by 30% he'd take:

100/100*62.5=62.5
100-62.5=37.5*1.3=48.75 damage


43.75=/=48.75

I know how it works, still most people will say it reduces magic resistance.

But it doesn't, it factually does not reduce magic resistance.
It is not, regardless of what is written on the wiki :l
It'd be like saying that sprint/Mask of madness reduces your physical and magical resistances, while it amplifies damage taken which is a huge difference.


It's not much different than talking about random chances to crit or bash, WHEN AS WE ALL KNOW IT'S PSEUDORANDOM.

It's not something to get that bothered about.

quoting a wrong post is a good skill toi have

on topic: im thinking about writing an article to analyze+explain the current ban/pick meta game... should i post it here or make a new topic?
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 20:49:02
March 31 2012 20:48 GMT
#6227
New topic certainly as people will want to discuss it.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
March 31 2012 21:14 GMT
#6228
On April 01 2012 05:21 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 03:53 Unleashing wrote:
This purge guy makes me sad everytime i watch him X_X
So many wrong things are said during just one cast.
Apparently veil REDUCES magic resistance? The hell?

Is this really something to go all whiny about? :/

Am i whiny? No, i am not whining.
I am complaining about a caster that constantly in all his casts say a lot of information that is simply untrue, as a caster you should know what you're talking about OR have an analytical caster with you that does know it.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
March 31 2012 21:21 GMT
#6229
Okay, replace whiny with sad. It's a minor pedantic thing that shouldn't irk you. It's just being nitpicky.
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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
March 31 2012 21:30 GMT
#6230
I played my first dota 2 game today. It was frustrating. I picked the "new" option at the beginning and searched my first game. At the end (36 minutes), items were:

Me (Veno): PT, Pipe, q-staff
Teammates: Even worse. There was a sylla with a boots of speed, q-blade and a salve at the end.

WTF is this shit? Do all people who pick the "new" option suck? If yes, how hard?
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
March 31 2012 21:32 GMT
#6231
On April 01 2012 06:30 Djagulingu wrote:
I played my first dota 2 game today. It was frustrating. I picked the "new" option at the beginning and searched my first game. At the end (36 minutes), items were:

Me (Veno): PT, Pipe, q-staff
Teammates: Even worse. There was a sylla with a boots of speed, q-blade and a salve at the end.

WTF is this shit? Do all people who pick the "new" option suck? If yes, how hard?

I just played with viper that skilled stats over toxin and had only one levl ogf corrosive skin... I was facepalming all the time.
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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
March 31 2012 21:35 GMT
#6232
On April 01 2012 06:30 Djagulingu wrote:
I played my first dota 2 game today. It was frustrating. I picked the "new" option at the beginning and searched my first game. At the end (36 minutes), items were:

Me (Veno): PT, Pipe, q-staff
Teammates: Even worse. There was a sylla with a boots of speed, q-blade and a salve at the end.

WTF is this shit? Do all people who pick the "new" option suck? If yes, how hard?

Wait, you're complaining about the skill level of the lowest 1/3 of the playerbase?
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TL+ Member
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
March 31 2012 21:36 GMT
#6233
Pretty sure it's less than 1/3. :D
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evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
March 31 2012 21:37 GMT
#6234
Shadow Blade: The 150 bonus damage when breaking invisibility can be multiplied by Critical Strike.

hmm, so it's changed in dota 2 good to know for kunk I suppose.
It was a engine limitation due to how windwalk worked.
From that one. http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Critical_strike
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
March 31 2012 21:39 GMT
#6235
On April 01 2012 06:37 evantrees wrote:
Shadow Blade: The 150 bonus damage when breaking invisibility can be multiplied by Critical Strike.

hmm, so it's changed in dota 2 good to know for kunk I suppose.
It was a engine limitation due to how windwalk worked.
From that one. http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Critical_strike

I'll troll some pubs with lothar mortred when she's ported :D
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 21:43:52
March 31 2012 21:43 GMT
#6236
On April 01 2012 06:36 Firebolt145 wrote:
Pretty sure it's less than 1/3. :D

You might be right, not all that much is known about the MMR system and how New/Experienced/Skilled placement works.
But still... he's complaining about the skill level of the players that are in the Dota 2 equivalent of bronze league?
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
March 31 2012 21:46 GMT
#6237
I think it's more equatable to those practice matches you get before placement matches that has those destroyable rocks protecting your base entrance. :D
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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 21:52:34
March 31 2012 21:50 GMT
#6238
On April 01 2012 06:35 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 06:30 Djagulingu wrote:
I played my first dota 2 game today. It was frustrating. I picked the "new" option at the beginning and searched my first game. At the end (36 minutes), items were:

Me (Veno): PT, Pipe, q-staff
Teammates: Even worse. There was a sylla with a boots of speed, q-blade and a salve at the end.

WTF is this shit? Do all people who pick the "new" option suck? If yes, how hard?

Wait, you're complaining about the skill level of the lowest 1/3 of the playerbase?

No, I'm complaining about their skills being even lower than mine. I rarely see people who are worse than me, let alone that worse.

On April 01 2012 06:43 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 06:36 Firebolt145 wrote:
Pretty sure it's less than 1/3. :D

You might be right, not all that much is known about the MMR system and how New/Experienced/Skilled placement works.
But still... he's complaining about the skill level of the players that are in the Dota 2 equivalent of bronze league?

Kind of yes. I could never imagine that they were that bad. I was richer than any 3 of my 4 teammates combined. And I played veno, not the best farmer on earth.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
March 31 2012 21:52 GMT
#6239
On April 01 2012 06:30 Djagulingu wrote:
I played my first dota 2 game today. It was frustrating. I picked the "new" option at the beginning and searched my first game. At the end (36 minutes), items were:

Me (Veno): PT, Pipe, q-staff
Teammates: Even worse. There was a sylla with a boots of speed, q-blade and a salve at the end.

WTF is this shit? Do all people who pick the "new" option suck? If yes, how hard?

You know "New" includes people that haven't played ever before? :/
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
March 31 2012 21:53 GMT
#6240
On April 01 2012 06:52 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 06:30 Djagulingu wrote:
I played my first dota 2 game today. It was frustrating. I picked the "new" option at the beginning and searched my first game. At the end (36 minutes), items were:

Me (Veno): PT, Pipe, q-staff
Teammates: Even worse. There was a sylla with a boots of speed, q-blade and a salve at the end.

WTF is this shit? Do all people who pick the "new" option suck? If yes, how hard?

You know "New" includes people that haven't played ever before? :/

Like I said 2 posts above, I didn't think that "New" included people who need help with distinguishing a keyboard from a mouse.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
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