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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On February 25 2012 07:40 Remfire wrote: explain why they should ban invoker, just want to know your reasoning, I dont particularly disagree just curious Simply put I see no way to really deal with him. If he mid lanes you have to commit a lot of ganks to try deal with him because no one can really handle him 1v1. If he doesn't he still offlanes really well. Then he has amazing chase in a ganking lineup with tornado+speed+coldsnap. In a team fight he's amazing since he has space control, disable and more disable. Great initiation, great survivability , great disable, great damage output. At the end of the day I just don't see how you deal with him. You can deal with AM NS furion, but how do you deal with invoker? EDIT: In fact dignitas banned Chen and Darkseer. | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
On February 25 2012 07:20 NB wrote: so much farm on invoker.... i could see where this game is going... edit: lot of people dont notice about riki smoke cast time... u need like 0.5 seconds to cast the smoke and with lv1 AoE most people could get out of it easily if they were moving. silencer is a silly pick in that line up ~_~ Bleek says sup son? | ||
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red_b
United States1267 Posts
oh and I do think invoker is silly. IMO increase the bans to 5 rather than nerfing him right now. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
:-/.... i... i dont even... mek invoker... ~_~........ gg indeed | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
http://blog.dota2.com/2012/02/evil-dreams-await/ | ||
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Frazzlehoon
United States3455 Posts
The problem with silencer is his lack of escape. If he gets caught slightly out of position, he's dead for sure. and @cilinder: There ARE ways to deal with AM, some teams even prefer to just let their opponent pick AM and destroy the rest of their team because he's such a late game hero. I forgot who played it, but there was a Furion + Riki team really recently that worked perfectly in shutting down AM early game. | ||
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Crissaegrim
2947 Posts
On February 25 2012 08:13 Frazzlehoon wrote: and @cilinder: There ARE ways to deal with AM, some teams even prefer to just let their opponent pick AM and destroy the rest of their team because he's such a late game hero. I forgot who played it, but there was a Furion + Riki team really recently that worked perfectly in shutting down AM early game. Yea I saw that game as well. Cant recall if it was in the premier league or one of the defense matches. Basically riki + Smoke + diffusal slow = dead AM. The furion TP in to turn it into a 2 on 1 was just the nail in the coffin. Nerf Invoker? Its a hero that is as good as the player behind it. I think that the most impressive invoker play I've seen so far was from Bulba from Its Gosu. His invoker was just jaw dropping. | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
On February 25 2012 08:34 Crissaegrim wrote: Yea I saw that game as well. Cant recall if it was in the premier league or one of the defense matches. Basically riki + Smoke + diffusal slow = dead AM. The furion TP in to turn it into a 2 on 1 was just the nail in the coffin. . It was Quantic vs WW during The Defense, with Link Riki, miGGel Furi and Socks AM iirc. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
- Fixed Tiny's tree not being properly equipped in his stone grip. "Why does Tiny have a log up his ass?" | ||
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
On February 25 2012 08:34 Crissaegrim wrote: Nerf Invoker? Its a hero that is as good as the player behind it. I think that the most impressive invoker play I've seen so far was from Bulba from Its Gosu. His invoker was just jaw dropping. While invoker is highly skill dependant, he is too powerful at all levels of play. Low level players can just spam tornado EMP for the the entire game, mid level players can spam that until they get ags, when they switch to spamming everything, and pro players completely dominate the game and cause him to be banned every game (nearly). | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Wait till the whole hero pool is in working order before crying for nerfs. | ||
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red_b
United States1267 Posts
highlight for me was tiny tossing a tide onto one people, popping two other guys' smokes and ravaging. | ||
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
From matching against players like hyhy, 357, Pct etc to a team with 2 players that have <20 games played. | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9056 Posts
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Candadar
2049 Posts
Denying friendly heroes? Yes please. I just imagine lots of incidental rage when sleeping an enemy, and a teammate hitting him and getting sleeped himself =/ | ||
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