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Fuzzyhead
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany55 Posts
May 28 2012 07:44 GMT
#661
On May 28 2012 16:37 Xinder wrote:
No charge or leap? Do you ever find situations where you wish you had one?


I will see whether i encounter situations where having leap or charge would be an advantage in todays play.
Earthquake would have to be thrown out for it, wouldn't it?
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 28 2012 08:31 GMT
#662
I'm really happy to see Skyr's belial kill because it proves there is a lot of variance in barb builds. I myself can nearly AFK through ACT2 and my build is completely different and I have only about 300 Life on Hit. This is good news for us barbs, variety = win.


As for my farming I've either been doing 5 stack NV Seigebreaker (ACT3) or Solo Iskatu (ACT4) runs over and over. Haven't gotten anything lately but gold. Oh I'll also tag alone for Wymshire cloud runs. Basically a couple DH friends of mine solo pony level then we get 4 people in the game with full MF on (at least 220 per person) and pop all the clouds/chests/pinatas etc., it's very, very nice. Do 0 work and get a nice chance at some reward. :D
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Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
May 28 2012 08:52 GMT
#663
On May 28 2012 14:52 Xinder wrote:
For those of you who use Earthquake in your builds. What rune do you use with it?


Seems like a toss-up between extra damage and slow, I'm still experimenting with it myself so I'm not sure.
/commercial
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 28 2012 09:11 GMT
#664
extra damage for sure on earthquake. when you blow those 2M CD (especially after ACT2) you're doing it to blow something the fuck up as much as you possibly can before dying. You will never really use earthquake to kite anything.
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Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
May 28 2012 09:30 GMT
#665
On May 28 2012 18:11 crms wrote:You will never really use earthquake to kite anything.


Yes, but the bane of earthquake is mobs that like to kite you.
/commercial
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 28 2012 09:33 GMT
#666
I'm only in act 1 myself with bad gear, but I really love the double shout + wrath build. Wrath with frenzy and the crit splash rune basically makes it so that you can focus the main bad guy and he should be dead by the time wrath is over. Ignore pain is as a panic button. 2min cd is no problem as you only use it vs rares

The best thing about wrath seems to be cc immunity
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Vison
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada53 Posts
May 28 2012 09:35 GMT
#667
Last night I beat Diablo on Inferno (with WD and Monk as partners) and I thought I would share my build.

Frenzy - maniac (hate to rely on the RNG of sidearm TBH)

Leap - death from above (interrupt diablo abilities/easy getaway from shadow clones)

Ground Stomp - Wrenching Smash (to pull the clones slightly farther away from the squishy people)

Sprint - Marathon (I feel like this is such an underrated ability overall mainly because there is no way I can get hit by any mechanics and there is no way that the clones can ever catch up to me)

Threatening Shout - Intimidate (I use this after ground stomp on the clones to slow them down. Demoralize is also a good choice)

War Cry - Impunity (obvious choice for the resists)

Passives

I chose the 3 very obvious choices which are Tough as Nails, Superstition, and Nerves of Steel.

This is a very specific build that I use for only Diablo and Azmodan (and possibly Belial)

On a normal clear I will switch out Ground Stomp for Wrath of the Beserker with Insanity, Sprint for Revenge with Provocation, and Leap for Charge with Dreadnought. When just doing act 1 and 2 I will also switch out Threatening Shout for Earthquake with The Mountain's Call.

Hope this helps people.

Just as a side note, these builds work best when using a stat priority (loosely based on) Resist All > Vitality > Strength (very general not to be taken strictly).
yammingtons
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia10 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 11:43:27
May 28 2012 11:33 GMT
#668
don't know how to get screen shots working. ...
guess i'll just post stats. if anyone can help to post ss please say so!

all res between 530-600 with shout.
dps 6.4 k = \
36 k hp
433 life on hit
72% dmg reduction from armor
13% melee reduction from SoE

[image loading]

Hi, i've been going over and over and over these forums for a week or two. now i'm in inferno, farming butcher, and am looking at moving towards Act 2. I am wondering how you guys balance your stats effectively while keeping resistances high? what stats do i need to be looking for? what build should i be doing? any feedback is welcomed. i'm getting rofl'd in act 2 by those damn wasps
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 12:41:36
May 28 2012 12:40 GMT
#669
On May 28 2012 20:33 yammingtons wrote:
don't know how to get screen shots working. ...
guess i'll just post stats. if anyone can help to post ss please say so!

all res between 530-600 with shout.
dps 6.4 k = \
36 k hp
433 life on hit
72% dmg reduction from armor
13% melee reduction from SoE

[image loading]
Hi, i've been going over and over and over these forums for a week or two. now i'm in inferno, farming butcher, and am looking at moving towards Act 2. I am wondering how you guys balance your stats effectively while keeping resistances high? what stats do i need to be looking for? what build should i be doing? any feedback is welcomed. i'm getting rofl'd in act 2 by those damn wasps

There you go

If I was to guess, your weapon probably sucks, I'd buy a new one.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 28 2012 12:50 GMT
#670
On May 28 2012 18:30 Novalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 18:11 crms wrote:You will never really use earthquake to kite anything.


Yes, but the bane of earthquake is mobs that like to kite you.

Realistically, the ones that will get out of it before taking enough damage are the ones that don't care about slows.
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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
May 28 2012 13:05 GMT
#671
man im hitting a rock wall of owning in mid act2 now.

stats:

17.5k dps
~70% armor reduction
~450allres (phys bit higher)
51khp
~18% dodge
(+14%melee dmg reduction from string)

and like evry single elite pack plain ownes me. they get to me and i lose 40k hp in under a second.

i can laugh at 99% of what act1 throws at me and can tank the butcher forever(and basicly soloed him in a 3player game cause both buddys died early) but act1 early is damn hard and now its close to impossible. i dont know what to do at this point since 1 slot upgrade costs 1-5mill already and act1 farming is quite stupid with the shitton of level 50 stuff you get.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 28 2012 13:45 GMT
#672
On May 28 2012 22:05 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
man im hitting a rock wall of owning in mid act2 now.

stats:

17.5k dps
~70% armor reduction
~450allres (phys bit higher)
51khp
~18% dodge
(+14%melee dmg reduction from string)

and like evry single elite pack plain ownes me. they get to me and i lose 40k hp in under a second.

i can laugh at 99% of what act1 throws at me and can tank the butcher forever(and basicly soloed him in a 3player game cause both buddys died early) but act1 early is damn hard and now its close to impossible. i dont know what to do at this point since 1 slot upgrade costs 1-5mill already and act1 farming is quite stupid with the shitton of level 50 stuff you get.

What skillbuild do you use? And I'm just starting act1 and my resistances are all above 800, maybe you're skimping on those a bit too much?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Krowser
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada788 Posts
May 28 2012 14:46 GMT
#673
I'm finishing up hell and since Nightmare I've been using a variation of this build. I can't find anything else that works.
Lvl53

Frenzy with Stun rune (Or Bash with reverberation if I'm using a 2h)
Hammer of the ancients with Stun rune
Furious Charge with Lower Cooldown
Ground Stomp with Wrenching Smash
Warcry with Extra life
Wrath of the Berzerker with Insanity

Superstition, pound of flesh and whatever else

The build has a lot of stuns, easy fury generation, an escape/aoe skill and a really good rage dump. Hammer does a boat load of damage and combined with Wrath I can make some really nice crits.

I don't know if it will work in Inferno, we'll see I guess.
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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 15:02:32
May 28 2012 14:58 GMT
#674
On May 28 2012 22:45 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 22:05 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
man im hitting a rock wall of owning in mid act2 now.

stats:

17.5k dps
~70% armor reduction
~450allres (phys bit higher)
51khp
~18% dodge
(+14%melee dmg reduction from string)

and like evry single elite pack plain ownes me. they get to me and i lose 40k hp in under a second.

i can laugh at 99% of what act1 throws at me and can tank the butcher forever(and basicly soloed him in a 3player game cause both buddys died early) but act1 early is damn hard and now its close to impossible. i dont know what to do at this point since 1 slot upgrade costs 1-5mill already and act1 farming is quite stupid with the shitton of level 50 stuff you get.

What skillbuild do you use? And I'm just starting act1 and my resistances are all above 800, maybe you're skimping on those a bit too much?

Wtf man, how can you get that high resist? How much did you spend on AH?


On May 28 2012 22:05 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
man im hitting a rock wall of owning in mid act2 now.

stats:

17.5k dps
~70% armor reduction
~450allres (phys bit higher)
51khp
~18% dodge
(+14%melee dmg reduction from string)

and like evry single elite pack plain ownes me. they get to me and i lose 40k hp in under a second.

i can laugh at 99% of what act1 throws at me and can tank the butcher forever(and basicly soloed him in a 3player game cause both buddys died early) but act1 early is damn hard and now its close to impossible. i dont know what to do at this point since 1 slot upgrade costs 1-5mill already and act1 farming is quite stupid with the shitton of level 50 stuff you get.


It should be either your Resist being low or your build is bad or both. 17.5K dps is quite high for ACT 2 I imagine. I just started ACT 2, up to the Oasis now with 500 resist 39K HP 9.8K DPS(12K at full fury). I can kill elite packs ok now but still have to run from 60% of them 20% I can kill after a few revive and straight up kill the easy 20% .
Terran
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 28 2012 15:08 GMT
#675
On May 28 2012 23:58 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 22:45 Shikyo wrote:
On May 28 2012 22:05 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
man im hitting a rock wall of owning in mid act2 now.

stats:

17.5k dps
~70% armor reduction
~450allres (phys bit higher)
51khp
~18% dodge
(+14%melee dmg reduction from string)

and like evry single elite pack plain ownes me. they get to me and i lose 40k hp in under a second.

i can laugh at 99% of what act1 throws at me and can tank the butcher forever(and basicly soloed him in a 3player game cause both buddys died early) but act1 early is damn hard and now its close to impossible. i dont know what to do at this point since 1 slot upgrade costs 1-5mill already and act1 farming is quite stupid with the shitton of level 50 stuff you get.

What skillbuild do you use? And I'm just starting act1 and my resistances are all above 800, maybe you're skimping on those a bit too much?

Wtf man, how can you get that high resist? How much did you spend on AH?

Hmm maybe 1mil total? I got many really good bargains that I sold for more so I actually made profit during that time so I don't really know. Either way I just changed some equips so I don't have everything about 800 anymore but close. My rings, pants, helmet, shield and weapon still need to be improved soon, though.

Here's my shouted stats with ench:
[image loading]
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 28 2012 15:22 GMT
#676
Shikyo, this is your second character, correct? And your first character is capable of providing you with money/gear from farming A2/A3 Inferno?

I'd actually say your stats are pretty lopsided TBH. You've probably over-pumped resists relative to armor (the balance point is somewhere around having the equal % damage reductions from both). Rather have life on hit than lifesteal also, for reasons already stated in the thread. Judging by your DPS, your weapon is also probably significantly better than what most A1-capable Barbs are comfortable shelling out for.
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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
May 28 2012 15:26 GMT
#677
What blue rings are those? Pure damage rings or +str/vita rings?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 15:39:22
May 28 2012 15:29 GMT
#678
On May 29 2012 00:22 TheYango wrote:
Shikyo, this is your second character, correct? And your first character is capable of providing you with money/gear from farming A2/A3 Inferno?

I'd actually say your stats are pretty lopsided TBH. You've probably over-pumped resists relative to armor (the balance point is somewhere around having the equal % damage reductions from both). Rather have life on hit than lifesteal also, for reasons already stated in the thread. Judging by your DPS, your weapon is also probably significantly better than what most A1-capable Barbs are comfortable shelling out for.

I had 1.5mil with that char and I've actually made 400k more on this one so you can almost consider that I have had no funding, apart from high level gems for faster leveling etc.

I prefer lifesteal because that way I can heal like 5k an attack from range against a lot of mobs and I also like how the crit splash from Wrath makes me almost invulnerable when against a huge clump of monsters. It will also scale later on.

If I need more armor I can just use some defensive passives, that pumps it up to 8300. I haven't really paid attention to it at all.

My weapon is a normal 761.8 DPS axe with 42% crit, last time I checked those were like 50k.


They are 15% aspd 59 str rings, 20k each. I told you I need to buy new rings.

Well Vitality is going to hopefully come from a couple of the 5 items I told you suck balls x_x Sigh
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 15:37:23
May 28 2012 15:29 GMT
#679
On May 29 2012 00:08 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 23:58 Caphe wrote:
On May 28 2012 22:45 Shikyo wrote:
On May 28 2012 22:05 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
man im hitting a rock wall of owning in mid act2 now.

stats:

17.5k dps
~70% armor reduction
~450allres (phys bit higher)
51khp
~18% dodge
(+14%melee dmg reduction from string)

and like evry single elite pack plain ownes me. they get to me and i lose 40k hp in under a second.

i can laugh at 99% of what act1 throws at me and can tank the butcher forever(and basicly soloed him in a 3player game cause both buddys died early) but act1 early is damn hard and now its close to impossible. i dont know what to do at this point since 1 slot upgrade costs 1-5mill already and act1 farming is quite stupid with the shitton of level 50 stuff you get.

What skillbuild do you use? And I'm just starting act1 and my resistances are all above 800, maybe you're skimping on those a bit too much?

Wtf man, how can you get that high resist? How much did you spend on AH?

Hmm maybe 1mil total? I got many really good bargains that I sold for more so I actually made profit during that time so I don't really know. Either way I just changed some equips so I don't have everything about 800 anymore but close. My rings, pants, helmet, shield and weapon still need to be improved soon, though.

Here's my shouted stats with ench:
[image loading]



you need ARMOR and VITALITY for gods sake.
i totally agree with what theyango said and wanna add:
you probably use crit / dmg passives as well! AND a 780dmg / crit axe is NOT 50k...

but ty guys, i didnt have any "heal on hit" thusfar, have to search for items with it! ty!
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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
May 28 2012 15:33 GMT
#680
oh another thing i wanna mention:

most ppl talk about killing bosses with their barbs, when the aim should be to kill and tank groups of elites as good as possible to farm with 5 nephalem.
ofc you can use fun builds with sprint and leap to kill diablo in a group, but thats not the point of a barbarian imo oO
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