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Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
May 24 2012 18:25 GMT
#401
On May 25 2012 03:11 Caphe wrote:
If a Barb don't stand and hit what will he do? Run around throwing axes?



well, to be fair... lol, i've started playing ranged barb based on a european poster, and it's been both fun, and successful, but i fully admit it may not work in inferno since i'm still in just hell. it plays way different, and has it's own pros and cons but definitely has helped me die less.

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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 18:29:16
May 24 2012 18:26 GMT
#402
So after watching Kripps stream and fooling with some items/builds I can safely say that going pure tank is not good. I saw his stats and I'm like wow I can do this, I have more armor. more HP and only slightly less resist! Well, turns out I can't. You cannot solo by purely going vitality/resist/str. IF you want to go Kripp route, you need 2 things:

1) PURE DAMAGE REDUCTION
-String of Ears
-Amulets
-Shields
-Bracers

These are big items, you can get vit/resist and % damage from melee. I believe Kripp has 30%+, this is why he can laugh at mobs with less pure armor and HP then me, where I die.

2) Life on Hit
Life leech is dead, 80% reduction in inferno. However, a good belt, amulet and weapon can net 1000+ life per hit and with frenzy and sidearm you can get a lot of regen going.


This is all fairly obvious information but I don't think some people know the value of the pure % dmg reduction items. String of ears is far and away the best belt in the game for us as a perfect roll is 20%.


I think, bare with me. That if you cannot get the level of gear to have huge resist while maintaining a ton of dmg reduction, tank spec is NOT the route to go.


http://i.imgur.com/dHJwJ.jpg

This player has beat inferno Diablo and can wipe anything in act 2 (including champion packs) going nearly full damage. Now his build isn't even great, he uses 3% life steal passive which is actually .6% and has really no life on hit etc. I mean 40k hp and 5k armor and low resists??? Seems impossible. Yet he claims to just kill fast enough it doesnt matter. I suspect he just tackles big pulls when cooldowns are up and just nearly 1 shots trash mobs. He's basically stacked crit, strength and attack speed.



I'm goign to be trying a build like this when I get home from work. I still think Kripps style is better overall and less 'chancey' but until you have 30+ million to spend on stormshield, string of ears, 600+ life on hit 1h, etc., etc., going balls out just may be the only way.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 18:43:30
May 24 2012 18:29 GMT
#403
On May 25 2012 03:11 skyR wrote:
So you're not even in Inferno yet you're claiming Inferno is so dam easy... fucking brilliant.

Indeed, I wanted to write hell but accidently wrote inferno. :x
My point was, I have seen many complains about barb in hell that I can not relate to in any way.

On May 25 2012 03:11 Caphe wrote:
If you don't like standing there smashing monsters why you roll a Barb? If a Barb don't stand and hit what will he do? Run around throwing axes?

My previous damage/stun build (it had seismic slam with stagger, ground stomp, charge, cleave with rupture, revenge, battle rage and damage passives) was much more fun, and actually required me to do stuff.
I had to run in, stun in the right moment, do as much damage a spossible, charge out, stun following enemies with stagger etc). It was actually much more action than wizard / DH for example.
The defensive builds are basically only about auto attacking. I thought it was obvious to everyone how much more boring this playstyle is compared to the various damage builds.
Off-season = best season
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
May 24 2012 18:30 GMT
#404
barbarian isnt UP, i can solo a2 now.

the problem is, you rely on GEAR, and its hard atm to get some alone.

Also, you need to concentrate on armor and resis, not on life and strengh!
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 24 2012 18:33 GMT
#405
ok so i got a storm shield
[image loading]

Currently 10 slots on AH all full, AH is down anyway and i want to give TL-er an exclusive chance . PM me with an offer if you are interested. I am not taking anything below market price xD...

P/s: I think im really dumb selling good shits atm bc real money AH is coming out soon :-/
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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 18:37:39
May 24 2012 18:36 GMT
#406
@NB: You are a rich Wizard, just give it away for your fellow TLers, We Barb are poor
Terran
Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
May 24 2012 18:39 GMT
#407
On May 25 2012 03:33 NB wrote:
ok so i got a storm shield
[image loading]

Currently 10 slots on AH all full, AH is down anyway and i want to give TL-er an exclusive chance . PM me with an offer if you are interested. I am not taking anything below market price xD...

P/s: I think im really dumb selling good shits atm bc real money AH is coming out soon :-/


What are the stats the image doesn't load for me. I really need a Storm Shield
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 24 2012 18:41 GMT
#408
On May 25 2012 03:33 NB wrote:
ok so i got a storm shield
[image loading]

Currently 10 slots on AH all full, AH is down anyway and i want to give TL-er an exclusive chance . PM me with an offer if you are interested. I am not taking anything below market price xD...

P/s: I think im really dumb selling good shits atm bc real money AH is coming out soon :-/



nice drop but bad roll. however, still better than 99% of shields that aren't better rolled stormshields.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 24 2012 18:42 GMT
#409
Is that a bad roll? Seems pretty dam good to me..
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 24 2012 18:42 GMT
#410
979 armor
+22% block
2800-3747 block amount

84 str
70 res all element
18% MF
+7% chance to block
+ reduce dmg from melee attack by 4%
reduce dmg from elites by 5%

and NA sever only ofc :D
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 18:46:25
May 24 2012 18:45 GMT
#411
On May 25 2012 03:42 NB wrote:
979 armor
+22% block
2800-3747 block amount

84 str
70 res all element
18% MF
+7% chance to block
+ reduce dmg from melee attack by 4%
reduce dmg from elites by 5%

and NA sever only ofc :D

I would try RMAH for that thing.

Also, I have a feeling we will see huge inflation on gold AH after RMAH is out.
Off-season = best season
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 18:47:40
May 24 2012 18:46 GMT
#412
On May 25 2012 03:42 skyR wrote:
Is that a bad roll? Seems pretty dam good to me..



it's best in slot, of course it's good. However, you can get 30%+ block. This has nice stat rolls though. Anyway,it's still better than 99% of shields that aren't better rolled stormshields. It's just the block and armor is really low for a stormshield and block is super fucking important.
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Mystgun
Profile Joined September 2010
Hong Kong311 Posts
May 24 2012 18:48 GMT
#413
Level 42 barb in A2 nm, this is my current build with 1h + shield

Primary - Frenzy with life return
Secondary - Weapon throw with ricochet (One of the more versatile fury spenders IMO, saves you the hassle of having to chase down fleeing enemies and works surprisingly well at point blank range)

1 - ground stomp with suction
2 - leap with armor bonus
3 - cleave with reaping swing
4 - revenge with bonus hp and fury return (will probably change to higher % proc once I unlock)

Passives - nerves of steel, weapons master, tough as nails

When I fight big bosses I change my skills a bit (a lot)

Primary - bash with stun
1 - call of the ancients
2 - wrath of the berserker
3 - ignore pain with duration buff
4 - Armor war cry with bonus armor

NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 24 2012 18:49 GMT
#414
tbh, have no clue... my knowledge of D3 is limited to wizard only and 2 best items i got in game so far are all Barb xD
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 24 2012 18:52 GMT
#415
On May 25 2012 03:49 NB wrote:
tbh, have no clue... my knowledge of D3 is limited to wizard only and 2 best items i got in game so far are all Barb xD



Be happy with the shield, even if it's not ideal roll from block, it's still gonna make you a small fortune. I haven't priced them recently, but if I had to guess it'd get at least 3-5M. I'd check for you but I'm at work.
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Kanaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark658 Posts
May 24 2012 18:55 GMT
#416
Ok, so i soloed up to belial in act 2 inferno, with 2hander and a charge / leap build.
I really got problems on belial, it seems i just cant survive him + adds when he lands.
Anybody succesfully dealt with it solo, and if yes, what build / items did you use?
I got around 61k HP , 8k armor and 200~res with buffs. DPS around 14k.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 24 2012 18:59 GMT
#417
On May 25 2012 03:52 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 03:49 NB wrote:
tbh, have no clue... my knowledge of D3 is limited to wizard only and 2 best items i got in game so far are all Barb xD



Be happy with the shield, even if it's not ideal roll from block, it's still gonna make you a small fortune. I haven't priced them recently, but if I had to guess it'd get at least 3-5M. I'd check for you but I'm at work.

did a quick search on AH: there are 22 storm shield on the market: only 1 is below 5mil (its 4 mil exactly) and its stats are terrible :D... Most of the 5 mil shields has some funny stats like HP gloves heal increase xD... I think my roll isnt perfect but the MF is pretty good thing yeah?
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 24 2012 19:02 GMT
#418
On May 25 2012 03:59 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 03:52 crms wrote:
On May 25 2012 03:49 NB wrote:
tbh, have no clue... my knowledge of D3 is limited to wizard only and 2 best items i got in game so far are all Barb xD



Be happy with the shield, even if it's not ideal roll from block, it's still gonna make you a small fortune. I haven't priced them recently, but if I had to guess it'd get at least 3-5M. I'd check for you but I'm at work.

did a quick search on AH: there are 22 storm shield on the market: only 1 is below 5mil (its 4 mil exactly) and its stats are terrible :D... Most of the 5 mil shields has some funny stats like HP gloves heal increase xD... I think my roll isnt perfect but the MF is pretty good thing yeah?


yeah nice little bonus, also yours has high str and high resist, good stat roll. SS is a defensive shield but that adds some nice damage to your tank build (something barbs lack). Hopefully you can get a lot!

May I ask, which act it dropped? Im trying to find out if string of ears and ss only drop in act 4.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 24 2012 19:09 GMT
#419
On May 25 2012 04:02 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 03:59 NB wrote:
On May 25 2012 03:52 crms wrote:
On May 25 2012 03:49 NB wrote:
tbh, have no clue... my knowledge of D3 is limited to wizard only and 2 best items i got in game so far are all Barb xD



Be happy with the shield, even if it's not ideal roll from block, it's still gonna make you a small fortune. I haven't priced them recently, but if I had to guess it'd get at least 3-5M. I'd check for you but I'm at work.

did a quick search on AH: there are 22 storm shield on the market: only 1 is below 5mil (its 4 mil exactly) and its stats are terrible :D... Most of the 5 mil shields has some funny stats like HP gloves heal increase xD... I think my roll isnt perfect but the MF is pretty good thing yeah?


yeah nice little bonus, also yours has high str and high resist, good stat roll. SS is a defensive shield but that adds some nice damage to your tank build (something barbs lack). Hopefully you can get a lot!

May I ask, which act it dropped? Im trying to find out if string of ears and ss only drop in act 4.

act 2 xD...
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Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 19:18:41
May 24 2012 19:10 GMT
#420
On May 25 2012 03:59 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 03:52 crms wrote:
On May 25 2012 03:49 NB wrote:
tbh, have no clue... my knowledge of D3 is limited to wizard only and 2 best items i got in game so far are all Barb xD



Be happy with the shield, even if it's not ideal roll from block, it's still gonna make you a small fortune. I haven't priced them recently, but if I had to guess it'd get at least 3-5M. I'd check for you but I'm at work.

did a quick search on AH: there are 22 storm shield on the market: only 1 is below 5mil (its 4 mil exactly) and its stats are terrible :D... Most of the 5 mil shields has some funny stats like HP gloves heal increase xD... I think my roll isnt perfect but the MF is pretty good thing yeah?


979 armor
+22% block
2800-3747 block amount

84 str
70 res all element
18% MF
+7% chance to block
+ reduce dmg from melee attack by 4%
reduce dmg from elites by 5%

Pros:
The Reduce Damage is Perfect which is a good start.
The 70 all res element is amazing also.

Cons:
Armor on the Shield could have 300 more.
The block can be higher.

From what I am aware of the Str can be higher also. But it is a Storm Shield you can probably get 4.5 million to 5.5 million if you truly want to sell it.
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