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Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1119 Posts
August 27 2014 14:37 GMT
#5261
My spectral blade build crit'ed with 1,5 billion dmg... o.O Went up from 24mio. What the hack...
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
Sek-Kuar
Profile Joined November 2010
Czech Republic593 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 22:55:40
September 02 2014 00:01 GMT
#5262
Found 4 wands since season started... Feels weird cause before 2.1 I was happy to see 1 wand per 2 weeks...

So is it just me, or there was some massive ninja buff to wand droprates??


UPDATE: 6 wands in 35 hours on seasonal Wiz. This is getting crazy...

UPDATE #2: 11 wands in 77 hours. Come on, someone surely must have noticed this...
Scientists finally discovered what's wrong with the female brain: On the left side, there is nothing right, and on the right side, there's nothing left. [http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/213948/1/DJVibrejtr/]
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
September 10 2014 13:06 GMT
#5263
I'm having a lot of fun with Firebirds, combine it with unstable anomaly and I almost never die, and of massive damage for everything
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
September 14 2014 06:48 GMT
#5264
I just started playing again (internet problems), and just did my first GR. Level 21!!!
Can I get some advice?
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SlkCascade-2516/hero/22556342

1) What legendary gems should I use? I guess one in each ring, but is it worth it in the ammy? (Don't feel like replacing the 98%CD on my dear moonlight ward!). I was looking at the +damage gem when cc:ed, working well with my current disintegrate build having slow from temporal flux. Other one would be the +damage 30 seconds after killing a boss? Not sure, don't think I've seen all legendary gems either. I guess that +damage stacks linearly with the +arcane, +disintegrate and +elite group?

2) I guess I need to change build? I have been enjoying disintegrate and arcane, but i understand there are other much stronger builds around now. I was thinking of aiming towards Firebirds + mirrorball + wand of woh? Anyone got a strong char with decently complete build they want to show off? (I know you do! )

Thanks!
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
September 14 2014 08:00 GMT
#5265
Mirrorball and wand of woh aren't very good for greater rifts. The top build nowadays is blizzard + black hole + optional third attack (meteor or hydra or energy twister) + a bunch of buffs + an escape skill + optional slow time. Legendary gems are some combination of bane of the powerful, bane of the trapped, toxin and zei. Unless I'm mistaken, I think boon + goldwrap doesn't work anymore. I believe furnace is the best weapon. Sunkeeper, maximus, sankis and serpent are pretty decent too.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
September 14 2014 09:32 GMT
#5266
Ok thanks! I looked at a few of the wizards on the single player GR leaderbord (that actually left their gear on).
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/FluX-2768/hero/323609
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Puzzler-2328/hero/20594502
As you say, they have blizzard with 30 yards range, fire black hole and some support spell (2 hydra, 1 arcane torrent) with fire damage and teleport-safe passage. Also firebirds.

I can't really get my head around it though... What is the main damage dealer? Blizzard deals 1000% damage over 6 seconds, averaging below 200% dps (that is how it works, right?) which should be pretty insignificant damage wise, and doesnt count to firebirds as it is cold. I assume you are after the chill for cc? Black hole, even with the fire explosion rune and doubled by firebirds, can't deal enormous amounts of damage? Just cc, right? No one has any cool down reduction either, point against BH being main dps. Is it then the fire hydra that is main dps and manage to trigger firebirds "burn until they die"? You need to deal 3000% weapon damage in fire in 3 seconds to trigger that right? Hydra does 3x400% = 1200% over 3 seconds, and BH has cooldown. Also if hydra is main dps, then why do people have furnace instead of serpent?

I am obviously missing something... How does this build work?
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
September 14 2014 13:14 GMT
#5267
On September 14 2014 18:32 Cascade wrote:
Ok thanks! I looked at a few of the wizards on the single player GR leaderbord (that actually left their gear on).
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/FluX-2768/hero/323609
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Puzzler-2328/hero/20594502
As you say, they have blizzard with 30 yards range, fire black hole and some support spell (2 hydra, 1 arcane torrent) with fire damage and teleport-safe passage. Also firebirds.

I can't really get my head around it though... What is the main damage dealer? Blizzard deals 1000% damage over 6 seconds, averaging below 200% dps (that is how it works, right?) which should be pretty insignificant damage wise, and doesnt count to firebirds as it is cold. I assume you are after the chill for cc? Black hole, even with the fire explosion rune and doubled by firebirds, can't deal enormous amounts of damage? Just cc, right? No one has any cool down reduction either, point against BH being main dps. Is it then the fire hydra that is main dps and manage to trigger firebirds "burn until they die"? You need to deal 3000% weapon damage in fire in 3 seconds to trigger that right? Hydra does 3x400% = 1200% over 3 seconds, and BH has cooldown. Also if hydra is main dps, then why do people have furnace instead of serpent?

I am obviously missing something... How does this build work?

Blizzard - Apocalypse is fire, that's what you are missing. The main damage comes from firebirds + the constant barrage of blizzard, hydra, black hole that will stack up the damage quickly.
Writer
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
September 14 2014 13:27 GMT
#5268
On September 14 2014 22:14 Valiver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2014 18:32 Cascade wrote:
Ok thanks! I looked at a few of the wizards on the single player GR leaderbord (that actually left their gear on).
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/FluX-2768/hero/323609
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Puzzler-2328/hero/20594502
As you say, they have blizzard with 30 yards range, fire black hole and some support spell (2 hydra, 1 arcane torrent) with fire damage and teleport-safe passage. Also firebirds.

I can't really get my head around it though... What is the main damage dealer? Blizzard deals 1000% damage over 6 seconds, averaging below 200% dps (that is how it works, right?) which should be pretty insignificant damage wise, and doesnt count to firebirds as it is cold. I assume you are after the chill for cc? Black hole, even with the fire explosion rune and doubled by firebirds, can't deal enormous amounts of damage? Just cc, right? No one has any cool down reduction either, point against BH being main dps. Is it then the fire hydra that is main dps and manage to trigger firebirds "burn until they die"? You need to deal 3000% weapon damage in fire in 3 seconds to trigger that right? Hydra does 3x400% = 1200% over 3 seconds, and BH has cooldown. Also if hydra is main dps, then why do people have furnace instead of serpent?

I am obviously missing something... How does this build work?

Blizzard - Apocalypse is fire, that's what you are missing. The main damage comes from firebirds + the constant barrage of blizzard, hydra, black hole that will stack up the damage quickly.

Oh! It doesn't say on the description! > : (
Well, then it fits I guess. So time to start collecting pieces then. Currently at.... 0 firebird pieces! :o

Is blizzard stronger with a slow weapon, or does it just go on DPS? What about hydra?
Is that (part of the) reason these guys have the furnace with attack speed 1?
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
September 14 2014 14:29 GMT
#5269
either do the furnace or sunkeeper + firebird source
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
September 14 2014 16:29 GMT
#5270
Some wizards use meteor - molten impact because it stacks firebird's very fast. Some of the top wizards on the US leaderboard seem to be experimenting with energy twister - gale force as well. I'm using teleport - fracture right now. I've seen a mix between that, safe passage and wormhole.

Black hole triggers strongarm bracers, which is what top wizards use nowadays.
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
September 14 2014 18:10 GMT
#5271
Whats a really safe and non-gear dependant build? just hit 70
SyNc`
Profile Joined August 2011
333 Posts
September 14 2014 20:38 GMT
#5272
On September 14 2014 22:27 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2014 22:14 Valiver wrote:
On September 14 2014 18:32 Cascade wrote:
Ok thanks! I looked at a few of the wizards on the single player GR leaderbord (that actually left their gear on).
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/FluX-2768/hero/323609
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Puzzler-2328/hero/20594502
As you say, they have blizzard with 30 yards range, fire black hole and some support spell (2 hydra, 1 arcane torrent) with fire damage and teleport-safe passage. Also firebirds.

I can't really get my head around it though... What is the main damage dealer? Blizzard deals 1000% damage over 6 seconds, averaging below 200% dps (that is how it works, right?) which should be pretty insignificant damage wise, and doesnt count to firebirds as it is cold. I assume you are after the chill for cc? Black hole, even with the fire explosion rune and doubled by firebirds, can't deal enormous amounts of damage? Just cc, right? No one has any cool down reduction either, point against BH being main dps. Is it then the fire hydra that is main dps and manage to trigger firebirds "burn until they die"? You need to deal 3000% weapon damage in fire in 3 seconds to trigger that right? Hydra does 3x400% = 1200% over 3 seconds, and BH has cooldown. Also if hydra is main dps, then why do people have furnace instead of serpent?

I am obviously missing something... How does this build work?

Blizzard - Apocalypse is fire, that's what you are missing. The main damage comes from firebirds + the constant barrage of blizzard, hydra, black hole that will stack up the damage quickly.

Oh! It doesn't say on the description! > : (
Well, then it fits I guess. So time to start collecting pieces then. Currently at.... 0 firebird pieces! :o

Is blizzard stronger with a slow weapon, or does it just go on DPS? What about hydra?
Is that (part of the) reason these guys have the furnace with attack speed 1?


Blizzard isn't good on its own. The only reason its good is because of the 6p firebirds bonus. They use furnace because it does a lot of dmg vs elites and the dots from the firebirds will be higher, which is all that matters with that build.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
September 14 2014 20:47 GMT
#5273
On September 15 2014 03:10 Vallelol wrote:
Whats a really safe and non-gear dependant build? just hit 70



Glacial Spike / Frozen Orb.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
September 15 2014 01:22 GMT
#5274
On September 15 2014 05:47 Terranasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 03:10 Vallelol wrote:
Whats a really safe and non-gear dependant build? just hit 70



Glacial Spike / Frozen Orb.

I second this. Fairly easy to play, can be done with rares, and gives lots of control.
Writer
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
September 15 2014 07:44 GMT
#5275
On September 15 2014 05:47 Terranasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 03:10 Vallelol wrote:
Whats a really safe and non-gear dependant build? just hit 70



Glacial Spike / Frozen Orb.


Thanks, tried it out and worked really well so far
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
September 15 2014 08:03 GMT
#5276
On September 15 2014 05:38 SyNc` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2014 22:27 Cascade wrote:
On September 14 2014 22:14 Valiver wrote:
On September 14 2014 18:32 Cascade wrote:
Ok thanks! I looked at a few of the wizards on the single player GR leaderbord (that actually left their gear on).
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/FluX-2768/hero/323609
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Puzzler-2328/hero/20594502
As you say, they have blizzard with 30 yards range, fire black hole and some support spell (2 hydra, 1 arcane torrent) with fire damage and teleport-safe passage. Also firebirds.

I can't really get my head around it though... What is the main damage dealer? Blizzard deals 1000% damage over 6 seconds, averaging below 200% dps (that is how it works, right?) which should be pretty insignificant damage wise, and doesnt count to firebirds as it is cold. I assume you are after the chill for cc? Black hole, even with the fire explosion rune and doubled by firebirds, can't deal enormous amounts of damage? Just cc, right? No one has any cool down reduction either, point against BH being main dps. Is it then the fire hydra that is main dps and manage to trigger firebirds "burn until they die"? You need to deal 3000% weapon damage in fire in 3 seconds to trigger that right? Hydra does 3x400% = 1200% over 3 seconds, and BH has cooldown. Also if hydra is main dps, then why do people have furnace instead of serpent?

I am obviously missing something... How does this build work?

Blizzard - Apocalypse is fire, that's what you are missing. The main damage comes from firebirds + the constant barrage of blizzard, hydra, black hole that will stack up the damage quickly.

Oh! It doesn't say on the description! > : (
Well, then it fits I guess. So time to start collecting pieces then. Currently at.... 0 firebird pieces! :o

Is blizzard stronger with a slow weapon, or does it just go on DPS? What about hydra?
Is that (part of the) reason these guys have the furnace with attack speed 1?


Blizzard isn't good on its own. The only reason its good is because of the 6p firebirds bonus. They use furnace because it does a lot of dmg vs elites and the dots from the firebirds will be higher, which is all that matters with that build.

No, probably better to first get the 6 firebirds before I switch to that build.
I guess my disintegrate build will have to do for now.
SyNc`
Profile Joined August 2011
333 Posts
September 15 2014 08:10 GMT
#5277
On September 15 2014 17:03 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 05:38 SyNc` wrote:
On September 14 2014 22:27 Cascade wrote:
On September 14 2014 22:14 Valiver wrote:
On September 14 2014 18:32 Cascade wrote:
Ok thanks! I looked at a few of the wizards on the single player GR leaderbord (that actually left their gear on).
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/FluX-2768/hero/323609
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Puzzler-2328/hero/20594502
As you say, they have blizzard with 30 yards range, fire black hole and some support spell (2 hydra, 1 arcane torrent) with fire damage and teleport-safe passage. Also firebirds.

I can't really get my head around it though... What is the main damage dealer? Blizzard deals 1000% damage over 6 seconds, averaging below 200% dps (that is how it works, right?) which should be pretty insignificant damage wise, and doesnt count to firebirds as it is cold. I assume you are after the chill for cc? Black hole, even with the fire explosion rune and doubled by firebirds, can't deal enormous amounts of damage? Just cc, right? No one has any cool down reduction either, point against BH being main dps. Is it then the fire hydra that is main dps and manage to trigger firebirds "burn until they die"? You need to deal 3000% weapon damage in fire in 3 seconds to trigger that right? Hydra does 3x400% = 1200% over 3 seconds, and BH has cooldown. Also if hydra is main dps, then why do people have furnace instead of serpent?

I am obviously missing something... How does this build work?

Blizzard - Apocalypse is fire, that's what you are missing. The main damage comes from firebirds + the constant barrage of blizzard, hydra, black hole that will stack up the damage quickly.

Oh! It doesn't say on the description! > : (
Well, then it fits I guess. So time to start collecting pieces then. Currently at.... 0 firebird pieces! :o

Is blizzard stronger with a slow weapon, or does it just go on DPS? What about hydra?
Is that (part of the) reason these guys have the furnace with attack speed 1?


Blizzard isn't good on its own. The only reason its good is because of the 6p firebirds bonus. They use furnace because it does a lot of dmg vs elites and the dots from the firebirds will be higher, which is all that matters with that build.

No, probably better to first get the 6 firebirds before I switch to that build.
I guess my disintegrate build will have to do for now.


That is literally what I said lol.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
September 15 2014 09:08 GMT
#5278
Yes, I was agreeing with you. The 'no' referred to blizzard being bad. Sorry for confusion.
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
September 15 2014 12:30 GMT
#5279
Any chance for a Firebirds/Vyrs combo? Fire rune on archon, emphasis CDR, and ideally 6pc firebird with 4set vyrs. I can't check right now but even with RoRG, I think the sets overlap do that you'll be missing the 4 piece vyrs
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-17 11:33:21
September 17 2014 11:32 GMT
#5280
Just got a ramaldni. Should I socket one of my three weapons? (I'm using a SS right now, but the roll isn't the best. My maximus or Sunkeeper seem more interesting)


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