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GomTV to give up exclusive rights to SC:BW - Page 2

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Weasel-
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
March 31 2011 02:21 GMT
#21
When I first read the title I thought they were giving the rights back to OGN/MBC, lol Blizzard.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
March 31 2011 02:23 GMT
#22
Obvious move.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=202467

Furthermore they pointed out that despite Blizzard giving exclusive rights to Gretech, Blizzard has both sued the broadcasting stations while also interfered with the negotiations and claimed that this was an abuse of their rights. OGN/MBC's lawyer questioned if Gretech did have an exclusive right to the game and ordered that only Gretech or Blizzard (and not both) be present in the courtroom and negotiations in the future.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 31 2011 02:25 GMT
#23
On March 31 2011 11:17 Turgid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2011 11:14 eviltomahawk wrote:

On the other hand, this means that GOM can't really do anything about BW streams now that they don't own the rights to the game anymore. Perhaps Grobyc's ordeal will now only be an isolated anomaly.


If you believe the post they made and the lack of further action, it's not like they intended to take down any more anyway.

True. Although I never believed that GOM was going anti-BW in that takedown since it was about GSL, there were quite a bit of crazy anti-GOM conspiracy theories floating around in that thread about Grobyc possibly being the first victim in GOM's evil plot to take down all BW tournament streams. At least those theories are now completely baseless now that GOM can't do anything with BW anymore.

This seems like a wise decision for GOM. They weren't going to do anything with the rights anyways, especially since they're pumping all their resources into GSL. If Blizzard were to go ahead and yank the plug on Proleague/OSL/MSL, at least GOM will no longer be in an awkward position.
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Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
March 31 2011 02:25 GMT
#24
Regardless, GOM took a smart decision from a business perspective.
At least, from the layman TLer, this doesn't really serve too much purpose since they hadn't really been broadcasting BW related things as of late...

Still, it feels so...weird =/
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Dexx
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany175 Posts
March 31 2011 02:28 GMT
#25
It eases the pressure on GOMTV as a Korean company and SC2 as an eSports a little bit. It is basically a thing between Blizzard and the Korean companies that sponsors BW teams that stick together in this case of an "outside" aggression by Blizzard. GOMTV must have recognized, if the Korean economy won't sponser SC2 pro teams ASAP with salaries for the players due to their commitment to Blizzard, these teams will disappear and make SC2 as an Korean eSports impossible in the long run.
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
March 31 2011 02:44 GMT
#26
Thinking more about this, this may actually be positive news, being that if Blizzard is alone in the lawsuit, it looks a lot clearer that they just want to kill the pro scene rather than just control it and replace OGN with gom or something. Maybe Blizzard will really how bad that looks publicly and back down.
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
March 31 2011 02:49 GMT
#27
So I'm assuming this is a response to OGN/MBC trying to get Blizzard out of the courtroom because it should technically only be Gretech in there. I wonder if this will strengthen or weaken Blizzard's position since they no longer have a Korean company in the mix.
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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
March 31 2011 02:51 GMT
#28
I can't tell if this is a good thing or a bad thing
brood war for life, brood war forever
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
March 31 2011 02:54 GMT
#29
On March 31 2011 11:49 Zim23 wrote:
So I'm assuming this is a response to OGN/MBC trying to get Blizzard out of the courtroom because it should technically only be Gretech in there. I wonder if this will strengthen or weaken Blizzard's position since they no longer have a Korean company in the mix.

I would say weaken for the reason like you said and because they clearly want no alternative but to shut down the BW leagues rather than switch to GOM or something like that.
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
March 31 2011 02:57 GMT
#30
This was a smart move for GOM, no need to strain themselves and their future by fighting a titan which cannot be beaten. This does suggest that Kespa is not giving in and putting a lot of pressure on Blizz. I hope Blizz caves in and make a decent settlement.
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xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 02:59:49
March 31 2011 02:58 GMT
#31
yesyesyesyesyesyesyes!!!!

My BW can continue safely in peace!


Okay misread this initially... the fact that GOM is pulling out means that they aren't confident in the lawsuit though, I would hope.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 31 2011 03:06 GMT
#32
On March 31 2011 11:54 etheovermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2011 11:49 Zim23 wrote:
So I'm assuming this is a response to OGN/MBC trying to get Blizzard out of the courtroom because it should technically only be Gretech in there. I wonder if this will strengthen or weaken Blizzard's position since they no longer have a Korean company in the mix.

I would say weaken for the reason like you said and because they clearly want no alternative but to shut down the BW leagues rather than switch to GOM or something like that.

IMO, "clearly" seems too strong a word for Blizzard's true motives.

They're already in a legal position to shut down the leagues, yet they are not exercising that right just yet. Perhaps the quickest way for them to force their contract is to shut down the leagues right now, yet they aren't doing it for some reason. It's still pretty debatable what their real goals are, especially since some parts of their IP lawsuit are actually quite legit.

IMO, I don't think we can definitively predict Blizzard's plans until seeing their actions after the lawsuit is settled.
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IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
March 31 2011 03:29 GMT
#33
On March 31 2011 12:06 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2011 11:54 etheovermind wrote:
On March 31 2011 11:49 Zim23 wrote:
So I'm assuming this is a response to OGN/MBC trying to get Blizzard out of the courtroom because it should technically only be Gretech in there. I wonder if this will strengthen or weaken Blizzard's position since they no longer have a Korean company in the mix.

I would say weaken for the reason like you said and because they clearly want no alternative but to shut down the BW leagues rather than switch to GOM or something like that.

IMO, "clearly" seems too strong a word for Blizzard's true motives.

They're already in a legal position to shut down the leagues, yet they are not exercising that right just yet. Perhaps the quickest way for them to force their contract is to shut down the leagues right now, yet they aren't doing it for some reason. It's still pretty debatable what their real goals are, especially since some parts of their IP lawsuit are actually quite legit.

IMO, I don't think we can definitively predict Blizzard's plans until seeing their actions after the lawsuit is settled.

LOL if you honestly think Blizzard doesn't want to shut down BW you're blind. They DID request the leagues to be shutdown while the case is still pending which was denied, so they are NOT in the legal position to shutdown the leagues currently despite the fact that they tried to shut them down. I have seen your posts before so I know that you are a very big fan of SC2 but read the writing on the wall please.
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
nanashin
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1584 Posts
March 31 2011 03:34 GMT
#34
Has GOM even touched WC3 and WoW arena in the past two years?
#1 esports promoter.
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structuralinertia
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia1426 Posts
March 31 2011 03:36 GMT
#35
On March 31 2011 11:23 Milkis wrote:
Obvious move.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=202467

Show nested quote +
Furthermore they pointed out that despite Blizzard giving exclusive rights to Gretech, Blizzard has both sued the broadcasting stations while also interfered with the negotiations and claimed that this was an abuse of their rights. OGN/MBC's lawyer questioned if Gretech did have an exclusive right to the game and ordered that only Gretech or Blizzard (and not both) be present in the courtroom and negotiations in the future.

This seems like the best explanation, so it's just a side matter really
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 03:55:49
March 31 2011 03:49 GMT
#36
On March 31 2011 12:29 etheovermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2011 12:06 eviltomahawk wrote:
On March 31 2011 11:54 etheovermind wrote:
On March 31 2011 11:49 Zim23 wrote:
So I'm assuming this is a response to OGN/MBC trying to get Blizzard out of the courtroom because it should technically only be Gretech in there. I wonder if this will strengthen or weaken Blizzard's position since they no longer have a Korean company in the mix.

I would say weaken for the reason like you said and because they clearly want no alternative but to shut down the BW leagues rather than switch to GOM or something like that.

IMO, "clearly" seems too strong a word for Blizzard's true motives.

They're already in a legal position to shut down the leagues, yet they are not exercising that right just yet. Perhaps the quickest way for them to force their contract is to shut down the leagues right now, yet they aren't doing it for some reason. It's still pretty debatable what their real goals are, especially since some parts of their IP lawsuit are actually quite legit.

IMO, I don't think we can definitively predict Blizzard's plans until seeing their actions after the lawsuit is settled.

LOL if you honestly think Blizzard doesn't want to shut down BW you're blind. They DID request the leagues to be shutdown while the case is still pending which was denied, so they are NOT in the legal position to shutdown the leagues currently despite the fact that they tried to shut them down. I have seen your posts before so I know that you are a very big fan of SC2 but read the writing on the wall please.

Really? I also read somewhere that Blizzard hadn't sent out an injunction during the court case even though they asked that OGN/MBC to not broadcast while the court case was pending. There seems to be a pretty hefty difference between asking for a shutdown and outright filing an injunction.

On December 04 2010 12:21 charlesatan wrote:
If Blizzard wanted to stop the airing of Broodwar, they could have filed an injunction--which would stop the broadcasts until everything could be legally resolved, but didn't:

Show nested quote +
Why didn't you request an injunction to stop broadcasting?

Blizzard and GomTV has always been participating in the negotiations in the good faith. Any other companies in our situation would never have the same patience we have. We still acknowledge South Korea as an important market. But now, I think there is no answer other than the lawsuit. If we really wanted to get done with this faster, we would have filed an injunction. I think that in order to broadcast, a proper license is required. So, we filed an lawsuit in the basis of IP rights violation without filing an injunction first.

Source: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7158393


I do recall getting the info from this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=174061

Of course, the answer to the interview came from Paul Sams, so it may be a bit fishy in terms of true intentions. Also, the overall thread does seem to be very, very slightly biased in a favor of Blizzard, though it has some excellent information in it.

Seems to be a bit of contradictory evidence and opinions here that may need to be addressed.

I do watch both the BW and SC2. I really want the BW leagues to continue considering that there is still a lot of entertainment and depth left in the game. In this case, I see Blizzard more as bumbling fools rather than greedy pigs.
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W2
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1177 Posts
March 31 2011 04:04 GMT
#37
Gomtv has been impressing me lately... Clearly they did not enjoy being the "bad" company that took down broodwar vids on youtube/streams. Plus their recent tournament, they made their premium passes free, and is involved with donations to japan relief.
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MiraKul
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Malaysia498 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 04:06:10
March 31 2011 04:04 GMT
#38
erm so, what will happen to BW?
ovrpwrd
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 04:11:37
March 31 2011 04:07 GMT
#39
On March 31 2011 11:04 Selith wrote:
Source: http://www.playxp.com/sc2/news/view.php?article_id=2719561

GomTV, the domestic e-sports / broadcasting partner to Blizzard Entertainment, has announced that they are relinquishing their exclusive tournament operation / broadcasting rights to StarCraft: Brood War back to Blizzard Entertainment.

This decision is seen as a way to smooth over the current courtroom issues regarding IP rights negotiation revolving around StarCraft tournament operation as well as its broadcasting. There is also the issue of inability to find a compromise between GomTV and the existing game broadcasting companies. As a result, GomTV decided to allow the original IP rights holder to decide for themselves what to do with the rights issue.

GomTV's representative, Bae In-Sik, has announced this decision to Blizzard Entertainment's CEO, Mike Morhaime, and he has accepted this quickly -- leading up to a fast announcement.

Now, all IP rights related lawsuits will be processed and dealt by Blizzard Entertainment alone. In addition, all licensing deals relating to StarCraft in South Korea will be dealt directly with Blizzard Entertainment.

The tournament/broadcasting rights to StarCraft II, WarCraft III, and World of WarCraft still remains with GomTV.

GomTV's Bae In-Sik said, "We tried our best to get the IP rights of Blizzard games acknowledged since last year, but with lawsuits and other problems, we could not resolve this problem. Therefore, with the full understandings from Blizzard, we have decided to return our exclusive rights to StarCraft: Brood War. GomTV will now only focus on GSL, and we hope that both StarCraft leagues and GSL will be very successful."

Blizzard Entertainment's CEO, Mike Morhaime stated, "We respect GomTV's decision, and we are thankful for all the effort GomTV put into growing e-sports. We will continue to work with GomTV to support their effort with GSL."


Hell, it's about time.

Now if only Blizzard would give up their tirade everything would be peachy.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 04:10:30
March 31 2011 04:09 GMT
#40
On March 31 2011 13:04 MiraKul wrote:
erm so, what will happen to BW?

Nothing will happen because of this. Basically all this means is that Gom will not take part in the lawsuit. Which makes sense, since they really didn't have a purpose there to begin with - it's not like Starcraft is their IP, and they'd basically gain nothing from winning since they're so focused on SC2 right now. So it's all Blizzard from here on out.
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