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GomTV to give up exclusive rights to SC:BW - Page 7

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pockie
Profile Joined May 2010
United States30 Posts
March 31 2011 23:39 GMT
#121
dayummm GomTv is pretty awesome
anon
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
March 31 2011 23:52 GMT
#122
Lets see how Blizzard will handle this responsibility
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
April 01 2011 02:48 GMT
#123
I know it's probably not the case, but it sure would be funny if Gom was like "BAM APRIL FOOLS LOLOLLO"
Avaloch
Profile Joined August 2010
241 Posts
April 01 2011 02:50 GMT
#124
I think GOM and Blizzard realised that the defendants keep skirting around the issue of which party's legal representatives should be at each hearing so they decided to do this. Smart choice to expedite the hearings.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
April 01 2011 05:01 GMT
#125
Cheers to GOM, I respect them not wanting to tarnish their image.
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 07:06:16
April 01 2011 07:04 GMT
#126
Wait, is this the "month-after-March-imbecile's" post or not?

I was pretty sure it would be when I saw the title =/
Don't hate the player, hate the game
joshboy42
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia116 Posts
April 01 2011 07:25 GMT
#127
this is an april fools post, right?
eat this cheese without farting and you can sleep with my sister
Ghostface_Killa
Profile Joined March 2011
United States168 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 08:57:09
April 01 2011 08:35 GMT
#128
Am I the only one who assumed GOM's real motive was to abruptly squelch the Brood War scene to make way for SC2?

It was a clever attempt if you ask me... the only thing more clever was relinquishing the rights to Blizzard, and thus leaving the Korean broadcasts with the strong possibility of having to re-purchase them for a disproportionate sum of money.

The Korean Leagues are wearing bifocals whereas GOM has vision.
Arrested for what, baby? Being awesome?
GhostLink
Profile Joined January 2011
United States450 Posts
April 01 2011 11:02 GMT
#129
why would people still care about BW

User was temp banned for this post.
Let a man play chess, and tell him that every pawn is his friend. Let him think both bishops holy. Let him remember happy days in the shadows of his castles. Let him love his queen. Watch him lose them all.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 01 2011 13:04 GMT
#130
this is a smart move by GomTV: they avoid to be the mail man for 2 sides of a war
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
April 01 2011 16:11 GMT
#131
Ugh I just wan't this to be over. Why don't you go and make a wow expansion or something, blizzard.
buhhy
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1113 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 17:21:11
April 01 2011 17:20 GMT
#132
On April 01 2011 05:45 Fyodor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 05:12 arcticStorm wrote:
Now that there aren't any Korean companies involved on Blizzard's side, I somehow don't believe the courts will rule in their favor. Even the most impartial judge is going to subconsciously favor the Korean company.

No, courts don't work that way. This will likely be a landmark case for intellectual property rights in Korea so no way in hell will the court proceedings be biased by something so stupid and base.


It probably will work like that... A Korean judge is gonna favour Korean companies, whether it is conscious or subconscious choice. Humans are never impartial.

This is probably somewhat favourable to BW.
Nerski
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 18:56:26
April 01 2011 18:44 GMT
#133
Twitter: @GoForNerski /// Youtube: Youtube.com/nerskisc
Nerski
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1095 Posts
April 01 2011 18:53 GMT
#134
On April 02 2011 03:44 Nerski wrote:
Stays the same, blizzard was always the force behind this whole mess,


Does anyone ever research anything before they drop an opinion? Article says it best what started this whole problem...KeSPA wanting to have total control and say over SC:BW in korea with no other influence to their 'power'.

" However, KeSPA, the Korean e-Sports Association, put pressure on its players and teams to sit out Season 3, and when almost no players were allowed to participate, Season 4 was cancelled. Various reasons were given for this, but it was thought that KeSPA was not happy about the fact that Blizzard had been a major sponsor of the final season—the first time Blizzard had ever sponsored a StarCraft tournament in Korea—doubling the prize pool and making the tournament more attractive to players."

So basically because blizzard decided to help promote esports by doubling tournament prize money...KeSPA got worried about their control and forced players to sit...then from their it spiraled out of control as KeSPA removed blizzard from BW entirely on their end and the IP suits started up.

Seems pretty clear cut to me who started this whole 'mess'

Is that to say I think blizzard should control things to a point if you even stream your own SC2 blizzard can jump all over you to pay them...no. But if you don't want to tick off someone and start an IP rights battle taking all their logos and anything referring to the producer of the game off your broadcasts is probably not a smart move.

Old post link from last year that is very relevant to all of you hating on blizzard so much.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168895
Twitter: @GoForNerski /// Youtube: Youtube.com/nerskisc
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
April 01 2011 23:16 GMT
#135
On April 02 2011 03:53 Nerski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 03:44 Nerski wrote:
Stays the same, blizzard was always the force behind this whole mess,


Does anyone ever research anything before they drop an opinion? Article says it best what started this whole problem...KeSPA wanting to have total control and say over SC:BW in korea with no other influence to their 'power'.

" However, KeSPA, the Korean e-Sports Association, put pressure on its players and teams to sit out Season 3, and when almost no players were allowed to participate, Season 4 was cancelled. Various reasons were given for this, but it was thought that KeSPA was not happy about the fact that Blizzard had been a major sponsor of the final season—the first time Blizzard had ever sponsored a StarCraft tournament in Korea—doubling the prize pool and making the tournament more attractive to players."

So basically because blizzard decided to help promote esports by doubling tournament prize money...KeSPA got worried about their control and forced players to sit...then from their it spiraled out of control as KeSPA removed blizzard from BW entirely on their end and the IP suits started up.

Seems pretty clear cut to me who started this whole 'mess'

Is that to say I think blizzard should control things to a point if you even stream your own SC2 blizzard can jump all over you to pay them...no. But if you don't want to tick off someone and start an IP rights battle taking all their logos and anything referring to the producer of the game off your broadcasts is probably not a smart move.

Old post link from last year that is very relevant to all of you hating on blizzard so much.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168895


You do realize how biased that thing you're citing is, right?

To be fair, neither party is innocent. This isn't as simple bickering as your typical 5 year old banter to say "X started it" or "Y started it". This is a grey area so don't act as if you know what you're talking about just because you read some thing some random korean netizen in the internet posted without even fact checking. Hell, the article you cited didn't even fact check, not surprising because e-Sports journalism is a joke.
elementz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States281 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 05:38:27
April 02 2011 05:33 GMT
#136
Just removes Gom as the middleman that has the rights to it but doesn't use said rights, Blizzard has a Korean part of it now, which means it can deal with it court as well.
this mah s#$%$
Sixotanaka
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia191 Posts
April 02 2011 09:29 GMT
#137
On April 02 2011 08:16 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 03:53 Nerski wrote:
On April 02 2011 03:44 Nerski wrote:
Stays the same, blizzard was always the force behind this whole mess,


Does anyone ever research anything before they drop an opinion? Article says it best what started this whole problem...KeSPA wanting to have total control and say over SC:BW in korea with no other influence to their 'power'.

" However, KeSPA, the Korean e-Sports Association, put pressure on its players and teams to sit out Season 3, and when almost no players were allowed to participate, Season 4 was cancelled. Various reasons were given for this, but it was thought that KeSPA was not happy about the fact that Blizzard had been a major sponsor of the final season—the first time Blizzard had ever sponsored a StarCraft tournament in Korea—doubling the prize pool and making the tournament more attractive to players."

So basically because blizzard decided to help promote esports by doubling tournament prize money...KeSPA got worried about their control and forced players to sit...then from their it spiraled out of control as KeSPA removed blizzard from BW entirely on their end and the IP suits started up.

Seems pretty clear cut to me who started this whole 'mess'

Is that to say I think blizzard should control things to a point if you even stream your own SC2 blizzard can jump all over you to pay them...no. But if you don't want to tick off someone and start an IP rights battle taking all their logos and anything referring to the producer of the game off your broadcasts is probably not a smart move.

Old post link from last year that is very relevant to all of you hating on blizzard so much.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168895


You do realize how biased that thing you're citing is, right?

To be fair, neither party is innocent. This isn't as simple bickering as your typical 5 year old banter to say "X started it" or "Y started it". This is a grey area so don't act as if you know what you're talking about just because you read some thing some random korean netizen in the internet posted without even fact checking. Hell, the article you cited didn't even fact check, not surprising because e-Sports journalism is a joke.


I think he was trying to get across that this actually is a grey area, and Blizzard isn't some evil corporation trying to kill everything you hold dear. There definitely are two sides to this.
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
April 02 2011 11:01 GMT
#138
I think it was quite obvious that this would have happened, and I was actually not expecting that it would happen so slowly. But, good move from GOM. SC2 is the future, although BW is still great.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
DoubleLariat
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada190 Posts
April 02 2011 23:11 GMT
#139
On April 02 2011 02:20 buhhy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 05:45 Fyodor wrote:
On April 01 2011 05:12 arcticStorm wrote:
Now that there aren't any Korean companies involved on Blizzard's side, I somehow don't believe the courts will rule in their favor. Even the most impartial judge is going to subconsciously favor the Korean company.

No, courts don't work that way. This will likely be a landmark case for intellectual property rights in Korea so no way in hell will the court proceedings be biased by something so stupid and base.


It probably will work like that... A Korean judge is gonna favour Korean companies, whether it is conscious or subconscious choice. Humans are never impartial.

This is probably somewhat favourable to BW.


I don't know about how the whole thing works re: Koreans favouring Koreans, but I can tell you, for a fact, that the whole culture is geared around this. A big part of this mess starting up is from KeSPA trying to keep control, something that is just engrained into Korean culture. I'm actually really surprised at how co-operative that GOM has been with other eSports organizations... it's quite out of character with the Korean mentality.

As you say, one would hope that the courts would be free of this - but your faith in the legal system makes me smile a little (I'm in law... I have no more faith in the legal system =P)

Another thing to keep in mind is that there is no such thing as a "landmark case" in the Korean legal system (at least in the North American understanding of a "landmark case") as they run on a variant of the continental European legal system which puts little to no emphasis on precedent cases.

All the above to say, it will go the way that the law was written.

And the law was written by Koreans.

So if Blizzard wants to win this thing, they're going to have to make sure that they hire good Korean lawyers and let them do their thing instead of having the American legal team come over and try to direct the case. I'm pretty sure that's the thing that's going to get them in the most hot water.
riboflavin
Profile Joined April 2010
United States226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 07:51:15
April 03 2011 07:50 GMT
#140
As a ridiculously funny April fools day prank GOM broadcasted an SC:BW match before the GSL:WC tournament. Is that in breach now? They had earlier announced that they had relinquished their rights? just saying...
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