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StarCraft2 finnally approved by China's Ministry of Culture, maybe on sale at March.
Good news, Chinese gamers will experience no delay games soon.
StarCraft2 approved by China's Ministry of Culture
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yypisces
Japan244 Posts
http://sc2.cn/xingji2.php?action-viewnews-itemid-16386 StarCraft2 finnally approved by China's Ministry of Culture, maybe on sale at March. Good news, Chinese gamers will experience no delay games soon.
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aka_star
United Kingdom1546 Posts
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xza
Singapore1600 Posts
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Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
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Annq
Germany104 Posts
I should stop talking about China in combination with totalitarian dictatorship or this site will be blocked within China.  User was warned for this post | ||
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Rabbitmaster
1357 Posts
On February 14 2011 18:57 Annq wrote: Start a revolution. Its time to stop the totalitarian dictatorship in China. Egypt should be an example. Word! Altho, this is a good start haha. Glhf china. | ||
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sc2lime
Canada513 Posts
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KezseN
Singapore1450 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
It should be really interesting to see how Blizzard deals with the server situation, seeing that there is no dedicated China server and they only have servers for Korea, Taiwan, and SEA. Hopefully, the influx of Chinese gamers will make the SC2 scene explode even more and perhaps allow for more Chinese progamers in addition to Loner and friends. | ||
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Annq
Germany104 Posts
Is Starcraft 2 allowed in North Korea? Are they on the same server as South Korea? | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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Cabracan
New Zealand119 Posts
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MIKster
Germany333 Posts
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Annq
Germany104 Posts
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Rabbitmaster
1357 Posts
On February 14 2011 19:09 Cabracan wrote: I know this is off topic but did anyone else read "China's ministry of culture" and immediatley think of George Orwell's 1984? Heh im reading the book for the 3rd time atm, and i couldn't agree more! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Firewall_of_China - Run by the ministry of truth? ^^ On February 14 2011 19:15 Annq wrote: Is it illegal to visit Youtube in China? Not sure if its illegal or not, but youtube is censored, aka you cant visit the site. | ||
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
On February 14 2011 19:05 Annq wrote: Is Starcraft 2 allowed in North Korea? Are they on the same server as South Korea? Really ? Are you serious with your questions ? They barely have computers out there O_O | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On February 14 2011 19:11 MIKster wrote: The question occurs: Was Loner playing the game illegally then? Or does this only mean people couldn’t buy it in China while they were still allowed to play it? I think people could legally buy the Taiwanese version in China, though there was no official Chinese version on sale or available due to the game still being processed by the Chinese bureaucracy. Also, there was no Chinese server, so Chinese players had to play through other Asian servers. Loner was probably playing the game legally, though it was probably through the Taiwanese client and not a mainland Chinese one. This approval from the government probably means that an official localized Chinese version can now be sold and distributed instead of the Taiwanese one, which could possibly mean that a Chinese server could probably be up soon. | ||
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Nephrite
Australia202 Posts
On February 14 2011 19:04 eviltomahawk wrote: Hell, it's about time. It should be really interesting to see how Blizzard deals with the server situation, seeing that there is no dedicated China server and they only have servers for Korea, Taiwan, and SEA. Hopefully, the influx of Chinese gamers will make the SC2 scene explode even more and perhaps allow for more Chinese progamers in addition to Loner and friends. Lol just had to quote it, if people didnt know who Loner was, they would be confused as hell. But I do hope youre right, it would be great to see more Chinese Progamers | ||
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Escapist
Portugal548 Posts
To all chinese SC2 fans: have fun and bring to the community some huge players  | ||
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yypisces
Japan244 Posts
Now very few people play SC2 in China because of lag and few tournaments.Hope it will be better soon. | ||
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FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
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borny
China481 Posts
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Flaunt
New Zealand784 Posts
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
Great news though! :D | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
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ICA
498 Posts
Let's see what those guys can produce. | ||
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FILM
United States663 Posts
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Ghad
Norway2551 Posts
Hope to see tome great talent coming over from their wc3 scene. | ||
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HeIios
Sweden2523 Posts
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ace246
Australia360 Posts
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Leviance
Germany4079 Posts
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KezseN
Singapore1450 Posts
On February 14 2011 20:48 ace246 wrote: OMG, sc2 hasn't been released in china yet? wtf? why? Is the censored version of sc2 not enough for them or do they have something against sc2 like kespa? Well.. AFAIK... They had problems with the company in general. Too much Undead reference in the Undead race in WOW and the obvious references to a corrupt government in SC2. | ||
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ranjutan
United States636 Posts
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b_unnies
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
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Morale
Sweden1010 Posts
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holydog
131 Posts
On February 14 2011 21:23 Wolf wrote: Hell yes. This is great news. Another server I'm probably gonna have to buy now T_T You have any idea the latency you get connecting to any chinese site? Its terrible man... I blame the great firewall of china. Its not censorship thats pissing me off. Its the internet speeds. | ||
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Erectum
France194 Posts
I hope we will see them soon in tn ! | ||
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AimlessAmoeba
Canada704 Posts
On February 14 2011 18:53 xza wrote: this is good news, i have some classmates from china and few of them were in competitive wc3 and i'm telling you, these guys are f'ing insane at macro and micro at ANY rts games racist much? lol | ||
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MinoMino
Norway1103 Posts
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EviL.sc
Portugal82 Posts
China hwaiting! | ||
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SpeaKEaSY
United States1070 Posts
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dtz
5834 Posts
I heard Dota are also approaching progaming level ( ie you can live with your salary and have fans paying stuff) and of course wc3 is also big there. This will open such an interesting possibility to the development of Esports probably in a good way. | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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EnTaroAdun411
Philippines106 Posts
Anyway, this is great news for the Chinese. I'm sure they've been itching to play. | ||
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Black.
Brazil72 Posts
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Wasteweiser
Canada522 Posts
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sl0th
Australia2 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On February 14 2011 19:19 eviltomahawk wrote: I think people could legally buy the Taiwanese version in China, though there was no official Chinese version on sale or available due to the game still being processed by the Chinese bureaucracy. Also, there was no Chinese server, so Chinese players had to play through other Asian servers. Loner was probably playing the game legally, though it was probably through the Taiwanese client and not a mainland Chinese one. This approval from the government probably means that an official localized Chinese version can now be sold and distributed instead of the Taiwanese one, which could possibly mean that a Chinese server could probably be up soon. Loner plays on Korea primarily, I think. Im very excited to see how SC2 unfolds in China, as long as its priced right it should be awesome. | ||
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Theta
France43 Posts
On February 14 2011 19:09 Cabracan wrote: I know this is off topic but did anyone else read "China's ministry of culture" and immediatley think of George Orwell's 1984? France has also a ministry of culture | ||
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Irrational_Animal
Germany1059 Posts
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Roflhaxx
Korea (South)1244 Posts
So does every other developed country | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On February 14 2011 22:04 EnTaroAdun411 wrote: They should be on SEA! So we get our fair share of beastly players! One can wish, can't I? Hehe Anyway, this is great news for the Chinese. I'm sure they've been itching to play. If they play with the SEA servers, that'd be great, as every communication with the outside world is great for the chinese population, however I doubt that's gonna happen. China will probably have their own server that the government will have control over. | ||
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TrainFX
United States469 Posts
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SpiritAshura
United States1271 Posts
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Irrational_Animal
Germany1059 Posts
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TheWoodLeagueAllstar
United Kingdom617 Posts
On February 14 2011 23:08 Irrational_Animal wrote: I guess China will need a year or so to catch up with the current international scene. Didnt you here it only took Athene 40 games :/ But seriously this is great news for sc2 and for China, if it exploded there we could get some serious competition going worldwide. | ||
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Oxb
199 Posts
It was howeverr not illegal to buy a Taiwanese/US/EU/SEA/KR version of the game, the chinese version of the game (simplified chinese compared to the Taiwanese traditional chinese) just hadn't passed all the requirements for being released in china yet (and very likely the ministry of culture had no rush doing so). All games go through this process. As far as I'm concerned gaming in china is not limited by whatever 'harsh gaming law' there are however several specific online games (this DOES NOT include WoW) that have a daily limited play time. Youtube isn't illegal in china either, it's just censored and you have to pay extra money monthly to have acces to it, same goes for facebook etc. I think this is mainly done to stimulate domestic products (e.g: youku.com, renren.com etc.) correct me if i'm wrong here though. Anyway this is fcking awesome, missed this news when i checked the chinese site earlier today, maybe it wasn't up yet. I wonder though, what they will do with the price, because 40euro will be like 400RMB which is quite some money for an average Chinese person to spend on a video game. Can't wait to see an official release date for the game. Made my day :-D edit: according to sc2.com.cn the chinese release is Q2 2011 http://www.sc2.com.cn/1102/161618391733.html edit 2: miss translated, it should be 'before Q2 2011'. The game was approved jan 19, confirmed by blizzard, NetEase and Ministry of culture ( source = same link) | ||
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Oxb
199 Posts
On February 14 2011 23:06 TrainFX wrote: I really hope China gets its own server, if only just to see what talent besides Loner is in China. SC2 in China is already pretty big and Loner isn't performing all that well in the Chinese ACS cups ( they've had like 26 so far) There are also some well established Chinese SC2 gaming teams (Nv to name one), most of 'm playing in the Korean ladder. With several players hitting Korean top200 very regulary and i've seen some chinese players in Korean top100 (around 80 if i remember correct). XiaOt for example is playing pretty damn solid lately, and if i'm not mistaking, should check actually, but is leading in ACS cup wins. | ||
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bLooD.
Germany470 Posts
Great news for our Chinese Gamers. | ||
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ksk549
France1 Post
On February 14 2011 18:57 Annq wrote: Start a revolution. Its time to stop the totalitarian dictatorship in China. Egypt should be an example. I should stop talking about China in combination with totalitarian dictatorship or this site will be blocked within China. User was warned for this post It was blocked actually :D Just some some proxy site man, you can find some at proxy Enjoy | ||
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Norada
China482 Posts
Only way to pay extra money for these sites is through illegal means(vpn mainly, or other proxies) "Anyway this is fcking awesome, missed this news when i checked the chinese site earlier today, maybe it wasn't up yet. I wonder though, what they will do with the price, because 40euro will be like 400RMB which is quite some money for an average Chinese person to spend on a video game. Can't wait to see an official release date for the game. Made my day :-D" Many people who will have computers can afford this, you'd be surprised how much money a middle class family has here. But im still hoping they go for something cheaper, I know the chinese wow version is way cheaper, like 15rmb for every 60hours of in game time or something. | ||
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insaneMicro
Germany761 Posts
Really interested to see if SC2 will blow up there like it did in the rest of the world, we might see some real talent from their deep player pool. Then again, the gaming scene is very different in China, they are more into MMOs and dota I believe. | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9021 Posts
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optical630
United Kingdom768 Posts
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Connecta
Sweden9 Posts
if we can trust playxp they'll sell StarCraft 2 for 200 yuan. | ||
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Oxb
199 Posts
On February 14 2011 23:27 Norada wrote: "Youtube isn't illegal in china either, it's just censored and you have to pay extra money monthly to have acces to it, same goes for facebook etc. I think this is mainly done to stimulate domestic products (e.g: youku.com, renren.com etc.) correct me if i'm wrong here though." Only way to pay extra money for these sites is through illegal means(vpn mainly, or other proxies) "Anyway this is fcking awesome, missed this news when i checked the chinese site earlier today, maybe it wasn't up yet. I wonder though, what they will do with the price, because 40euro will be like 400RMB which is quite some money for an average Chinese person to spend on a video game. Can't wait to see an official release date for the game. Made my day :-D" Many people who will have computers can afford this, you'd be surprised how much money a middle class family has here. But im still hoping they go for something cheaper, I know the chinese wow version is way cheaper, like 15rmb for every 60hours of in game time or something. I'm in China, not Hong Kong, Beijing and people here are happy with 5000RMB/month salary. So i'd say 400RMB isn't all that cheap. If VPN is illegal why does the chinese goverment give out VPNs to foreign employees? Edit: Person above stated 200RMB, according to PlayXP, I guess that's a reasonable price. | ||
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Tschis
Brazil1511 Posts
On February 14 2011 19:23 Essendon7 wrote: Lol just had to quote it, if people didnt know who Loner was, they would be confused as hell. But I do hope youre right, it would be great to see more Chinese Progamers I don't see the point in quoting him, it's not like you explained who Loner was, so... You just repeated what he said. //tx | ||
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Norada
China482 Posts
On February 14 2011 23:36 Oxb wrote: I'm in China, not Hong Kong, Beijing and people here are happy with 5000RMB/month salary. So i'd say 400RMB isn't all that cheap. If VPN is illegal why does the chinese goverment give out VPNs to foreign employees? Edit: Person above stated 200RMB, according to PlayXP, I guess that's a reasonable price. sorry had hk tag on from awhile but i live in gaungzhou. and i know a lot of people have shit salary(5000rmb/month is pretty good) but there's also a lot of people with a lot of money...(that's just how china is I suppose, many people with out and many people with) I never knew vpn could be given out to foreigners, I always just saw the adds saying you could buy it and such and assumed you could if you wanted to but it's just an illegal way to bypass their censorship :p I'll pick up a copy if it's really 200rmb, not too bad. Does anyone know a website that will have a list of local tournies and such? Need to brush up on my skills but I can probably hold my own in them :> | ||
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flyersa
Germany141 Posts
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above
United States71 Posts
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On February 14 2011 19:15 Annq wrote: Is it illegal to visit Youtube in China? No, but it's blocked unless you use proxy/vpn. | ||
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Siraz
United States18 Posts
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keyStorm
Canada316 Posts
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On February 15 2011 00:11 above wrote: I wonder what the reason is that they ended up taking so long, and then actually approving sc2 for the country... Did they see a potential industry in it? Or maybe it was another way to try and compete and show cultural dominance by winning tournaments? When you have a communist power in control of a country i'm hard pressed to believe that they just felt like allowing the people to have fun and contact with community that is not very similar to theirs with no other motive.... just my 2 cents.... Because it's just a game. China is not North Korea. | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
On February 14 2011 23:14 Oxb wrote: To clarify some things. Loner (and any other chinese player playing SC2) is NOT playing the game illegally, the Chinese goverment has waited until now to allow the game to be released in China (for whatever reasons they have, rangeing from 'domestic product protection' to 'unnapropriate ingame stuff'). It was howeverr not illegal to buy a Taiwanese/US/EU/SEA/KR version of the game, the chinese version of the game (simplified chinese compared to the Taiwanese traditional chinese) just hadn't passed all the requirements for being released in china yet (and very likely the ministry of culture had no rush doing so). All games go through this process. As far as I'm concerned gaming in china is not limited by whatever 'harsh gaming law' there are however several specific online games (this DOES NOT include WoW) that have a daily limited play time. Youtube isn't illegal in china either, it's just censored and you have to pay extra money monthly to have acces to it, same goes for facebook etc. I think this is mainly done to stimulate domestic products (e.g: youku.com, renren.com etc.) correct me if i'm wrong here though. Anyway this is fcking awesome, missed this news when i checked the chinese site earlier today, maybe it wasn't up yet. I wonder though, what they will do with the price, because 40euro will be like 400RMB which is quite some money for an average Chinese person to spend on a video game. Can't wait to see an official release date for the game. Made my day :-D edit: according to sc2.com.cn the chinese release is Q2 2011 http://www.sc2.com.cn/1102/161618391733.html edit 2: miss translated, it should be 'before Q2 2011'. The game was approved jan 19, confirmed by blizzard, NetEase and Ministry of culture ( source = same link) Gonna quote this in an attempt to stem the tide of ignorance maybe even racism in this thread. On-topic: I'm pretty excited about what this will do for the e-sports scene. I don't think China will be above Korea in SC2 simply because China doesn't have the tolerance of gaming culture that Korea does, but I'm sure China will be above NA and probably EU within 12-18 months. I doubt the top WC3 pros will switch over since the WC3 scene in China is still so huge, but I'd expect there to be enough talent to play SC2 at a competitive level soon. Affordability of decent computers or lack thereof isn't that huge a problem either since China is far richer than it was in the BW/WC3 days, but it will still be a hindrance for the average student. | ||
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pHelix Equilibria
United States1134 Posts
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Heimatloser
Germany1494 Posts
On February 14 2011 18:57 Annq wrote: Start a revolution. Its time to stop the totalitarian dictatorship in China. Egypt should be an example. I should stop talking about China in combination with totalitarian dictatorship or this site will be blocked within China. User was warned for this post there is no totalitarian dictatorship in china. chinese are communists, which is the bestest and fairest political system ever since the french revolution | ||
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
On February 15 2011 00:54 Heimatloser wrote: there is no totalitarian dictatorship in china. chinese are communists, which is the bestest and fairest political system ever since the french revolution Stop talking politics in this thread before you make a bigger fool of yourself than you already have. | ||
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Bijan
United States286 Posts
Seriously though, this is great news. I can't wait to see Chinese SC2 gamers as they have a pretty good competitive scene going on there. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
Another contributing reason why WC 3 eSports really took off in China is due to the sudden rise of a Chinese WC 3 super star (Sky). It was similar to how the Korean BW scene got jump started by Boxer. At the moment there is no such figure in the Chinese SC 2 scene (Loner, though good, just isn't the next Sky/Boxer, and has been relatively disappointing in the GSL), so we'll have to see whether SC 2 becomes the next WC 3 in China or fizzles out like BW did. | ||
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
On February 15 2011 01:16 Azarkon wrote: ...and the presence of Chinese-specific match making services that bypass the limitations of BNET. . Read: You can play pirate copies. | ||
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On February 15 2011 00:54 Heimatloser wrote: there is no totalitarian dictatorship in china. chinese are communists, which is the bestest and fairest political system ever since the french revolution Are you kidding? You are way off topic! | ||
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
No you cannot. No pirate sc2 exists, and even if it exists it's no fun without b.net. | ||
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March Hare
United States4 Posts
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
On February 15 2011 01:32 bearhug wrote: No you cannot. No pirate sc2 exists, and even if it exists it's no fun without b.net. We were talking about Warcraft 3, a game that tens of millions of Chinese gamers play ever month, but very few have bought a legit copy. | ||
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ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
It's more complicated than that. From what I understand, most Chinese players do not play at home. They play at net cafes, which supposedly buy licensed copies of the game for their outfits. However, this is China we're talking about and anti-piracy enforcement is lax, so I wouldn't be surprised if many or most of these net cafes run pirated copies. Nonetheless, this is the commercial model that exists in China and if Blizzard is not able to adapt to it, then SC 2 won't take off there. | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On February 14 2011 18:57 Annq wrote: Start a revolution. Its time to stop the totalitarian dictatorship in China. Egypt should be an example. I should stop talking about China in combination with totalitarian dictatorship or this site will be blocked within China. User was warned for this post You do realize what happened last time people tried that right...... Not to mention vast majority of Chinese are quite satisfied with their government as a whole. | ||
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Mioraka
Canada1353 Posts
On February 14 2011 23:28 Garnet wrote: China love games that can be pirated though. But I really hope SC2 become big in China. question is, who doesn't love games that can be pirated  | ||
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
On February 15 2011 01:48 Mioraka wrote: question is, who doesn't love games that can be pirated Working adults? | ||
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Mioraka
Canada1353 Posts
On February 15 2011 01:32 bearhug wrote: No you cannot. No pirate sc2 exists, and even if it exists it's no fun without b.net. No pirated sc2 exist? You'd be surprised lol I agree with the second part tho, but ppl will figure some way to play it on pirated platforms, sooner or later. I love B.net though, now only if blizz go back to what they had 5 years ago..... | ||
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pHelix Equilibria
United States1134 Posts
On February 15 2011 01:48 Mioraka wrote: question is, who doesn't love games that can be pirated People with ethics. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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Mioraka
Canada1353 Posts
Now it's hard to make an argument that No working adult wants games off bit torrent. btw, not supporting piracy, but saying chinese love pirated games more than anyone else is stupid. Everyone wants the game for free, it's just some places have more strict laws while some others dont. | ||
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Mioraka
Canada1353 Posts
Exactly, not many, right? | ||
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pHelix Equilibria
United States1134 Posts
Yes. Well played. | ||
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
On February 15 2011 01:54 Mioraka wrote: Now it's hard to make an argument that No working adult wants games off bit torrent. btw, not supporting piracy, but saying chinese love pirated games more than anyone else is stupid. Everyone wants the game for free, it's just some places have more strict laws while some others dont. Chinese gamers don't like to, or can't, pay large lump sums for their games. They, however, have no problem with paying for games as long as it is in micro transactions. SC 2 will never be as popular as Warcraft 3 in China as long as you can't either a) pirate it or b) Blizzard release the game as free to play in China with micro transactions. | ||
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hiawatha
United States120 Posts
I like how people are also saying that the Chinese are going to be amazing at macro and micro, as if they have an extra muscle in their hand or something. Racism is often subtle | ||
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aznboi918
United States70 Posts
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hmsrenown
Canada1263 Posts
It is not illegal to play SC2 in China on different realms, contrary to popular belief. | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On February 15 2011 01:47 teamsolid wrote: You do realize what happened last time people tried that right...... Not to mention vast majority of Chinese are quite satisfied with their government as a whole. Are you hinting at the Tiananmen Square massacre? Leaving politics aside, I think having more Chinese players will be great for e-sports. Hopefully, this means we will see some up and coming players out of China (other than loner). Does anyone know the official release date in China? | ||
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optical630
United Kingdom768 Posts
On February 15 2011 02:11 hiawatha wrote: The Chinese people are greatly satisfied with their government. Redistribution of wealth and proper management of capital ~> 10% GDP growth SOUNDS GOOD TO ME I like how people are also saying that the Chinese are going to be amazing at macro and micro, as if they have an extra muscle in their hand or something. Racism is often subtle stereotyping isnt racism, know the difference. | ||
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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Aragos
France182 Posts
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DeltruS
Canada2214 Posts
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p1cKLes
United States342 Posts
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
Blizzard will set up a seperate server for China. The game will be dirt cheap(under 100RMB~about nearly $20) and eventually will be under 50RMB but still no many people will buy it. 'Cos they are used to use all kind of software for FREE(pirated).As many people has pointed out. WC3 was so big in China 'cos WC3 got pirated right after it was released. I remember that WC3+TFT was sold for 40RMB in China and still no one buy it. Ofc, there are hardcore fans of Blizzard in China that will buy the game immediately after its on sale. But these people are very likely already own a copy in another region. And they will only be pissed of because of the emtyness of the Chinese mainland server. Most Chinese pro are already playing and will be playing on Korean server/ Taiwan server. Blizzard can only be success in China if they can push the price of SC2 down to nearly free(around 50RMB) or come up with monthly-fee or something like that. I think Blizzard calculated well when they make SC2. They actually sell ACCOUNTS not the game. It can be a great advantage for Blizzard in China market. So any internet cafe can install the game, people just need their own account to play. The reasons to cut LAN out of SC2 are already discussed and this is what SC2 w/o LAN can bring to Blizzard - The CHINA market. If they do it well, they will gain tons of profits. | ||
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IAttackYou
United States330 Posts
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p1cKLes
United States342 Posts
On February 15 2011 01:47 teamsolid wrote: You do realize what happened last time people tried that right...... Not to mention vast majority of Chinese are quite satisfied with their government as a whole. This is really not the place for a political debate, but I think your last statement is a tad bit false. I’m not really going to go into details here, because I’m happy that SC2 has finally make it into China which is the OP’s point, but you should do a little bit more reading as there are numerous break outs all over China where people riot against the government. You just don’t hear about it, because everything is censored. All media outlets in China are owned and ran by the Chinese government. There was only one that was independent, and I believed that ended in 3 or 4 years ago. | ||
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applejuice
307 Posts
On February 15 2011 01:32 bearhug wrote: No you cannot. No pirate sc2 exists, and even if it exists it's no fun without b.net. lol, of course you can D/L SC2. Why do you think they still don't have LAN? | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On February 14 2011 18:57 Annq wrote: Start a revolution. Its time to stop the totalitarian dictatorship in China. Egypt should be an example. I should stop talking about China in combination with totalitarian dictatorship or this site will be blocked within China. User was warned for this post Well yeah, freedom and democratic values should always prevail, but this obviously isn't the place for it. | ||
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
On February 15 2011 02:38 p1cKLes wrote: How sad is it, when a government has to “approve” the game before you can play it? Man… *shaking head* You realize our government has set up a branch to "approve" of games also.... | ||
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optical630
United Kingdom768 Posts
On February 15 2011 02:59 applejuice wrote: lol, of course you can D/L SC2. Why do you think they still don't have LAN? u can dl it and i think play single player, but there still isnt a way to play it online. (could be wrong though) | ||
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On February 15 2011 01:37 Eury wrote: We were talking about Warcraft 3, a game that tens of millions of Chinese gamers play ever month, but very few have bought a legit copy. sc2 is so much better than wc3. almost all of my friends in china who love RTS games bought sc2 (many of them played pirated wc3 though). mostly TaiWan and NA version. | ||
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
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TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
On February 15 2011 03:11 StyLeD wrote: You realize our government has set up a branch to "approve" of games also.... The ESRB is a private organization set up precisely so the government wouldn't have a reason to step in. Edit: All off-topic, of course. I was wondering: Where have the chinese players been in SC2? Loner is pretty visible, and I know F91 plays, but where is he? Has he been competing anywhere? What about any other Chinese gamers? | ||
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p1cKLes
United States342 Posts
On February 15 2011 03:11 StyLeD wrote: You realize our government has set up a branch to "approve" of games also.... I’m assuming you are referring to industry regulation? The approval process which takes place when their in the process of making the game. I suppose in a roundabout way everything has some sort of approval process at least anything with regulation (I think game regulation is by a private organization), but not to the extreme as in the case of China. China approves and rejects everything from internet sites to what type of news the people. You’re talking about a country who executed the equivalent to our FDA director, because of tainted product that made it to the US killing thousands of pets due to kidney failure, which he really didn’t have much control over in the first place. Anyways, I’m not here to discuss politics as I think it takes away from the OP’s point. I’m just glad that China’s going to have the ability to play SC2 as well, which will add to the competition even more. | ||
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bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
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wideye
United States209 Posts
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jdobrev
Bulgaria162 Posts
China has been the Korea of Warcraft III for the last couple of years. This is huge news | ||
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MementoMori
Canada419 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On February 15 2011 04:33 MementoMori wrote: Please excuse my massive ignorance. Just something I'm wondering now.. Since Loner is from China and I assume starcraft 2 was previously banned there, how did he and other Chinese players get around that restriction?? i'm guessing Taiwan | ||
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Nazarid
United States445 Posts
On February 14 2011 18:56 Mandalor wrote: This is gonna be reaaaaallly interesting. China developed a pretty decent progaming culture with bw and wc3. I wonder if this huge delay in the release will hinder F91 & others a lot or if they will be able to get competitive soon. WC3 had macro??? lol i remember building 2 control groups of units and being capped ... im pretty sure WC3 was like 90% micro 10% macro... | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10343 Posts
March ain't too far off, good thing the game got approved! | ||
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
On February 15 2011 04:27 wideye wrote: hmm.. i've got mixed opinions about this interesting news. how big was/is the BW and WC3 scene in China? They're both a really big deal. BW might have died down a bit I have no idea, but I know they had an OSL finals in Shanghai. | ||
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SlapMySalami
United States1060 Posts
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D_K_night
Canada615 Posts
Do you guys remember some talk of a SC1 clone? Something to do with, the game being made in protest of Blizz/KeSPA negotiations - it would have the same mechanics of SC1, reskinned units/race, but play identically? I also wonder if China would have some equivalent of SC2, which is country-specific or something? | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
On February 15 2011 05:13 Turgid wrote: They're both a really big deal. BW might have died down a bit I have no idea, but I know they had an OSL finals in Shanghai. WC 3 is much, much, more popular than BW in China. | ||
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ZergMaestro
United States169 Posts
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Pankaks
United States32 Posts
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Kyuss420
Canada36 Posts
On February 14 2011 18:57 Annq wrote: Start a revolution. Its time to stop the totalitarian dictatorship in China. Egypt should be an example. I should stop talking about China in combination with totalitarian dictatorship or this site will be blocked within China. User was warned for this post why would you warn someone for saying something liek this? hard to speak the truth these days without havin people get butthurt eh? | ||
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Muffinman53
571 Posts
I would imagine that a Chinese presence on the SEA server would strengthen the competition quite a bit. | ||
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biskit
Australia355 Posts
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T0fuuu
Australia2275 Posts
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PD
Norway66 Posts
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rbkl
772 Posts
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Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
On February 15 2011 06:09 Kyuss420 wrote: why would you warn someone for saying something liek this? hard to speak the truth these days without havin people get butthurt eh? Maybe people should grow an attention span and actually stick to what threads are for. If you want to talk about your own shit make a new damn thread. | ||
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Kazzabiss
1006 Posts
On February 14 2011 19:05 Annq wrote: Probably a seperate one, so the government can take control. Is Starcraft 2 allowed in North Korea? Are they on the same server as South Korea? Well, more on this and the answer of "no" NK has a nationwide Kwangmyong network, which allows for e-mail and news from within NK, and very limited censored foreign data from mostly scientific sources. So essentially North Korea has the world's biggest LAN XD | ||
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DeltruS
Canada2214 Posts
On February 15 2011 06:09 Kyuss420 wrote: why would you warn someone for saying something liek this? hard to speak the truth these days without havin people get butthurt eh? I have no idea how you think that this is a good post. This is a thread about a video game's release in another country, on a SC2 website. Do you really think this is where one should be telling people how to live? Any actual revolution would lead to millions of deaths, not that it would actually happen based on this. In addition, I doubt most of the Chinese people are overly unhappy about their government. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On February 15 2011 05:13 Turgid wrote: They're both a really big deal. BW might have died down a bit I have no idea, but I know they had an OSL finals in Shanghai. I'd say that the Chinese BW scene is the biggest outside of Korea, but even then it is minuscule. As far as I know, the OSL finals in Shanghai was really more KESPA trying to promote a dying scene than a reflection of the size and importance of Chinese BW. From what I've heard and seen in my trips to China, the eSports game that receives the most attention there is DOTA and WC 3. WC 3 receives more "official" support, but DOTA is far more popular. | ||
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CooDu
Australia899 Posts
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Norada
China482 Posts
Also i've been living in china for a couple of years now and it's funny how people bring up how bad the government is and such. But everyone has a job, and is able to eat and have enough money for a good time(yes there's some people who are extremely poor and getting taken advantage of) but it's for the better of the majority which seems to work. Also more chinese people dont even think about politics here or how the government is ran, they're just there and they do fine is what most of them think. Obviously there's exceptions but for the most part people are extremely happy here, more so than america/canada(lived in both countries). Also if people think the government is all controlling i'll tell you a personal story, my girlfriend recently won a court case where their house was taken down from the government to build a road, she sued the government and won the case. Got around 1mil usd from it. | ||
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ClanRH.TV
United States462 Posts
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voy
Poland348 Posts
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
On February 14 2011 19:09 Cabracan wrote: I know this is off topic but did anyone else read "China's ministry of culture" and immediatley think of George Orwell's 1984? Please surrender to local law enforcement. You are guilty of thoughtcrime and will be reassimilated posthaste. | ||
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Saintmek
China61 Posts
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Jacko11
China146 Posts
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Almin
United States583 Posts
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
I wonder if people will be able to abuse this in game I'm losing and so I type 'Falun Gong tiananmen democracy' Your opponent has disconnected. | ||
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Mioraka
Canada1353 Posts
On February 15 2011 06:09 Kyuss420 wrote: why would you warn someone for saying something liek this? hard to speak the truth these days without havin people get butthurt eh? yes, because starting a revolution due to a lack of starcraft sounds like a great idea. I duno how ppl relate the approval process of a game to dictatorship......you guys do realize the blood in Korean sc2 is black right? Guess who made that change necessary. | ||
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chenchen
United States1136 Posts
On February 15 2011 04:27 wideye wrote: hmm.. i've got mixed opinions about this interesting news. how big was/is the BW and WC3 scene in China? The BW scene was by far the biggest outside of Korea with numerous tournaments and prohouses. The WC3 scene was the biggest in the world including nationally televised tournaments. | ||
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oldahe
Austria534 Posts
On February 14 2011 18:57 Annq wrote: Start a revolution. Its time to stop the totalitarian dictatorship in China. Egypt should be an example. I should stop talking about China in combination with totalitarian dictatorship or this site will be blocked within China. User was warned for this post Dear Mods. Im rather new to TL.net, so please clarify for my better understanding. Why was this user warned for his post? As i understand it, the topic of the thread is implicitly political so comment, political in character, should be allowed. I recocnize it could have had been less blunt, but still. Thanks for clarifying! | ||
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DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
On February 15 2011 08:29 CooDu wrote: More players the better, this is great news! Thanks for sharing! Yes, this. | ||
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p1cKLes
United States342 Posts
On February 15 2011 19:53 oldahe wrote: Dear Mods. Im rather new to TL.net, so please clarify for my better understanding. Why was this user warned for his post? As i understand it, the topic of the thread is implicitly political so comment, political in character, should be allowed. I recocnize it could have had been less blunt, but still. Thanks for clarifying! Well, I would imagine it has something to do with the fact that it says "start a revolution", which on some level is provoking or condoning violence. Obviously, I seriously doubt the poster had real intentions of starting a revolution and was merely making more of a general comment to invoke or express how he really feels about China, but never the less in our political correct world that we unfortunately live in, you do have to be careful about what you say. | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
On February 15 2011 19:53 oldahe wrote: Dear Mods. Im rather new to TL.net, so please clarify for my better understanding. Why was this user warned for his post? As i understand it, the topic of the thread is implicitly political so comment, political in character, should be allowed. I recocnize it could have had been less blunt, but still. Thanks for clarifying! Now, now comrade... Let's not border on thoughtcrime like the poor chap above. He has already confessed to supporting Goldstein. And you, comrade? What is it that inspires you to criticize The Mods and the Glorious People's Republic of China? What is two plus two comrade? | ||
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On February 15 2011 04:27 wideye wrote: hmm.. i've got mixed opinions about this interesting news. how big was/is the BW and WC3 scene in China? Huge. China WC3 scene = biggest in the world, by far. | ||
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Raysalis
Malaysia1034 Posts
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
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GullyFoyle
United States103 Posts
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Gingerninja
United Kingdom1339 Posts
On February 15 2011 19:53 oldahe wrote: Dear Mods. Im rather new to TL.net, so please clarify for my better understanding. Why was this user warned for his post? As i understand it, the topic of the thread is implicitly political so comment, political in character, should be allowed. I recocnize it could have had been less blunt, but still. Thanks for clarifying! What was political about stating that the game has been approved in China and will hopefully soon be released? Different countries have different censorship things. China has a huge WC3 community and is generally a big player in the E-sports Market so this is gaming news, not political. | ||
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whaty0uwant
New Zealand346 Posts
On February 14 2011 18:57 Annq wrote: Start a revolution. Its time to stop the totalitarian dictatorship in China. Egypt should be an example. I should stop talking about China in combination with totalitarian dictatorship or this site will be blocked within China. User was warned for this post Why was this user warned for this post? | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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Peto
China28 Posts
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Tmoloney
Australia2 Posts
As always love you TL | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On February 15 2011 17:17 Mioraka wrote: yes, because starting a revolution due to a lack of starcraft sounds like a great idea. I duno how ppl relate the approval process of a game to dictatorship......you guys do realize the blood in Korean sc2 is black right? Guess who made that change necessary. It is not black lol Theres an option for reduced violence, not sure what that does tho since I never used it. | ||
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Nomad123
95 Posts
On February 15 2011 06:09 Kyuss420 wrote: why would you warn someone for saying something liek this? hard to speak the truth these days without havin people get butthurt eh? fact: chinese people are happy. sure there are rallies/riots that the government wishes to quell down. guess what, there are rallies/riots in your country as well (wherever that may be). sure there are poor people in china, guess what, there are poor people in your country as well. you want to support a revolution, in exchange for what? the united states of america capitalism form of government? if the USA has such a perfect government, why china gonna take over them in economy in a few years? do you wish for me to cite to you links on studies made on when china will take over america economically? or has america's propaganda machine called "Fox News" brainwashed you already during Bush administration? (cause they seem to hate obama these days lol) heck you westerners dont even take care of your parents. you send them to a place where old people go when they get old. talk about values huh? they raised you up, and you put them in a home for the aged? now why dont YOU start a revolution against this in YOUR own country? why not make a revolution of taking care of parents even when they're old, letting them stay in your home like chinese/asians do? now that should be an easier revolution isn't it? but no, it's easier for people like you to butt in a computer game forum & talk about politics & revolution, feeling all noble & stuffs. tsk tsk tsk... you westerners keep butting in other people's business. us chinese are happy in majority. stop watching Fox News for once mr. westerner. User was warned for this post | ||
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XerrolAvengerII
United States510 Posts
On February 16 2011 22:52 Nomad123 wrote: has america's propaganda machine called "Fox News" brainwashed you already during Bush administration? (cause they seem to hate obama these days lol)... ...you westerners keep butting in other people's business. us chinese are happy in majority. stop watching Fox News for once mr. westerner. User was warned for this post wow, Moderators butthurt about Fox news? | ||
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oldahe
Austria534 Posts
On February 16 2011 07:48 Gingerninja wrote: What was political about stating that the game has been approved in China and will hopefully soon be released? Different countries have different censorship things. China has a huge WC3 community and is generally a big player in the E-sports Market so this is gaming news, not political. Hmm, You are maybe right. Almost everything we read, see and hear about China seems to be political these days. Google being cencored, human rights activists imprisoned, the Nobel peace price boycotted and so on and so forth. So, when I read the OP I assumed it was political. Ministry of Culture sounded like some "big brother" sort of agency. After looking into it, it seems as if the Ministry of Culture is really only a Ministry of Culture, nothing more nothing less. So the whole thing is more about level of violence and things like that. Thanks for the "hint". | ||
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eddytlaw
United States102 Posts
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desRow
Canada2654 Posts
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XerrolAvengerII
United States510 Posts
On February 17 2011 13:26 desrow wrote: If china is on board, i can see sc2 olympics.. hmmm, eOlympics... a possibility, but merging esports with conventional Olympics might create too much conflict and ego/pride based warfare. aka, waspy mofos that think playing video games rots your brains and is there for responsible for everything bad in the world - I'm so tired of those people. | ||
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Rflcrx
503 Posts
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March Hare
United States4 Posts
My mandarin is not very good, as I've only been studying for two years, but if there's anyone out there than can help me translate info from the Chinese sources, it would be appreciated. | ||
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Rflcrx
503 Posts
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Oxb
199 Posts
On March 20 2011 22:58 Rflcrx wrote: Any news on this? As far as I can tell the game isn't out and there is no server. Whats the hold-up? Im currently in China, and my Chinese friend just let me know there will be a Chinese SC2 tournament soon, on Chinese server, which currently is NOT up yet. However if I have the date correct Chinese BETA sc2 will go live 29th of March. Information regarding the tournament can be found on www.starcraft2.com.cn (currently off line) If I remember correct beta keys can be bought for 59RMB (like 6~7euro's I think that's about 10USD?) But all in all i'm not too sure about it, will try to update when I find the exact info, which i'm gonna look for when I get home. Please don't quote this message for 'facts' since it's all on memory of some news I read on sc2.plu.cn and sc2.com.cn early March, and my Chinese isn't fluent so I might've miss interpreted some things. I don't want to cause false hope ;-) | ||
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Rflcrx
503 Posts
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ChromeK
Japan6 Posts
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Genome852
United States979 Posts
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Rflcrx
503 Posts
As I understand it, it will cost less than 100 Yuan and it will have it's own server. I am d/ling the "beta" (dunno why they call it that) right now. | ||
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