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meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
November 18 2010 16:11 GMT
#321
Thats epic... I'd love to hear updates about your experiences... I wonder if its going to be similar to what Ret found in BW living with estro.
Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
November 18 2010 16:16 GMT
#322
This is huge! Gratz TorcH! Hoping to see more of him
really?
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
November 18 2010 16:22 GMT
#323
Gz TorcH, hopefully you will have a great time in Korea.
We know nothing.
babumbel
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany12 Posts
November 18 2010 16:26 GMT
#324
Congratulations TorcH!
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
November 18 2010 16:31 GMT
#325
On November 19 2010 01:11 meeple wrote:
Thats epic... I'd love to hear updates about your experiences... I wonder if its going to be similar to what Ret found in BW living with estro.

This is totally speculative. Everything about it:

I don't think an SC2 team can be like that in the least. There are a lot of factors that are vastly different between estro, an established bw pro team, and startale, a new team in a new game. I'm talking required practice time, attention/respect, solidified norms, etc. Overt scene factors aside, there also will probably not be as painful language/culture/general respect issues with this team. There will also probably be an increasing foreigner support network, which will be important; while I'm sure Ret enjoyed having foreigners around, the newcomers will be a) larger in number, and b) in comparable positions. I think practice schedule and in-house regimens will probably be the most important differences.

Wow. I just typed something kinda pointless, but I hope convincing. Enjoy.
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
November 18 2010 16:32 GMT
#326
On November 19 2010 00:20 AcOrP wrote:
I don't get it TorcH qualified for GSL1 yea he didn't for 2 and 3 but this doesn't mean he is not good enough... If we look at the other people that qualified TL guys had everything setup for them training partners house, idra is in korea for quite a long time. If we sum everything outside of the game torch qualify is huge compared to other foreigners. ST are strong team with July and Rainb0w in it, you can't say torch doesn't have the skill level for it. He is strong player with alot of potential and I'm sure once he start the practice in proper team envoirment we will see great results. Jinro and haypro failed to qualify for GSL 1 and 2. But look how much they improved from the korean ladder and oGs practice.


i think he only went to GSL 1 and 3, he didn't participate at GSL 2.

and good luck in korea TorcH, always nice to hear from you. i know you're going to gain a lot of expirience in such a great team. btw do they have a english speaking person at ST?
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
November 18 2010 16:37 GMT
#327
Wow.


Holy crap. Did NOT see that coming. Dang. I remember when everyone was mocking Torch as the phone gamer.

Nice job man. Good luck. I'm excited to see you play.

Tch. How's that for taking the leap.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Contagious
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1319 Posts
November 18 2010 16:52 GMT
#328
wow! That's sick man, congrats, and hope your skill just booms now.
echobong
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada92 Posts
November 18 2010 17:12 GMT
#329
it's his HAIR!
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
November 18 2010 17:55 GMT
#330
Wow.....holy shit wow

Look, Torch is one of the most well spoken and dedicated gamers around, he has a real passion for progaming and esports which is a pretty epicly a good thing. That said he IS a hihg level player no doubt, and playing with a professional korean team will fix his #1 problem which is keeping up with his mechanics into the mid and late games.

Do I think he deserves to be on Startale? I'm not sure, thing is there are probably 75 other north americans I would say deserve to be on the team more than Torch for gameplay reasons. Am I glad for him? Hell yeah. A foreigner on a korean pro team is no small task.

This is definitely a unique situation to see, and I'm interested to see how it will go from here.
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climax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1088 Posts
November 18 2010 18:07 GMT
#331
Wow, this came out of left field!!

Congrats TorcH! Show them some foreigner pride!
Twitter: @JonathanRosales
Nixda
Profile Joined August 2010
119 Posts
November 18 2010 18:18 GMT
#332
Wow, did not see this one coming.

Grats TorcH !

I enjoyed him commenting when Artosis was playing and felt sad when he didnt manage to qualify for GSL 3. Glad to hear we'll see one more foreigner stay in Korea then.
Krayze
Profile Joined May 2009
United States213 Posts
November 18 2010 18:20 GMT
#333
Wow that's very interesting. I really really hope he gets on the team, but I'm not sure if he's got the skills to be honest. But I haven't seen him much, we'll see! GLGLGLGLGLGL
St. Fu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States75 Posts
November 18 2010 18:45 GMT
#334
Gunna be cool to see how he develops as a player from here on out. GL brosky
BetterFasterStronger
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States604 Posts
November 18 2010 18:50 GMT
#335
Goes to show that people really need to go try out for the GSL. Heres a guy who wasn't particularly that good / known. Got a easy bracket, made it to ro64, lost. 2 months later. Joins one of the top Korean teams. (Not dissing torch nor do i think he is a bad player)

Congrats TorcH this will defiantly be a motivational story.
Top 200 as Protoss - Switched to Terran. 0-30 against EGiNcontroL... God damnet
GenocideRun
Profile Joined July 2010
United States262 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 19:33:19
November 18 2010 19:31 GMT
#336
Really happy for ya TorcH. GoodLuck down there in Korea!
Genocide.run, Dota2 player and sc2 fan!
NIIINO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Slovakia1320 Posts
November 18 2010 19:32 GMT
#337
i wish you best Torchy : )
RedHelix
Profile Joined August 2010
250 Posts
November 18 2010 19:53 GMT
#338
I'm excited for torch, i think he has a ton of potential if he just works on his fundamentals a bit, practicing with such a high level team will most definitely make him an amazing player no doubt.
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3050 Posts
November 18 2010 20:19 GMT
#339
Mind = Blown. I did not see that coming at all. Congratz Torch. Hope you unlock your potential and get somewhere.
End my suffering
leecH
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany385 Posts
November 18 2010 20:46 GMT
#340
its awesome. he deserves this. i guess he puts in alot of effort, flying to korea and stuff. lives his dream. much respect!
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