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Chriamon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States886 Posts
October 11 2010 14:03 GMT
#121
I think this is Tester's fame kind of working against him. Any well known player is also known to the other players, and I'm sure a large number of players know exactly how tester plays, and tester never really has that advantage until the tourney starts and he can prepare for specific people. So this guy probably said "Oh its tester, I can do a build to exploit how he plays!" and Tester just played as standard as usual, assuming he'd win, unknowing of who his opponent really was.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/274906/1/Blaze/
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1108 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-11 14:55:04
October 11 2010 14:39 GMT
#122
On October 11 2010 19:17 alkampfer wrote:
Cool, the GSL winner, has spoken. TvP is imbalanced atm in terran's favour.

Read his last interview.


Just because cool says something doesn't make it automatically true.


The problem in PvT is that it is the only match up where somebody with noticeably lower skill can beat someone that is much higher caliber.

(ignoring mules and marauders, problems roots come from some imo overlooked gas costs of toss units/structures. For reference: watch any TvP that has a bio focus @ ~135 food each. The Terran will have usually well under 1/3 (a third) of the gas amount in army, and still be able to be equal in just a straight up fight).

I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
Sixes
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1123 Posts
October 11 2010 14:50 GMT
#123
On October 11 2010 23:00 forr4078 wrote:
Show nested quote +
- 결승 상대가 ‘사기수’ 서기수였는데, 긴장되지 않았는지
▲ 대진표를 보고 나서는 서기수 선수와 해서 완패만 당하지 말자고 마음을 먹었다. 1경기 때는 내가 주로 쓰던 안 당해본 사람들에게 잘 통하는 전략이 우연히 잘 통해 이길 수 있었다.


- Your opponent in the final round was Tester. Were you nervous?
▲ After I saw the match table, I only wanted to avoid getting steamrolled (note: the nuance is that he thought he was going to lose). In the first match I used one of my favorite strategies that works well on people who have never seen it, and luckily it worked and I won.

Sounds like an admission of cheese, not that it's a sin.


This just shows that the game is new and there are a lot of hard hitting timing/all in pushes that are being discovered. These players probably won't make it to the Ro16 but they can take out some big names in prelims and Ro64 if the build is poorly scouted or confusing enough.

The last cast by HD about theWind getting hurt by a Raven opener seems like that as well. TheWind scouts, prepares for banshees and then gets surprised by ravens and doesn't seem to know what to do about it.
SaDGoWu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States133 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-11 14:55:34
October 11 2010 14:54 GMT
#124
I bet tester lost to a Marine/Banshee/Raven timing push. The only known way to beat it is the very risky Stargate into fast phoenix's first and hope the terran is bad enough to let his banshees die without marine support.

But this is only the begining because phoenix are worthless vs Marine and im 70% sure that PDD cancels out Phoenix fire as well you need something to deal with the Marines because gatway doesn't work, especially if PDD is canceling all your stalker shots and marines have combat shield + stim. Colossus or Psi storm is required, but if the terran gets a Raven and his marine upgrades and attacks your base before you have a tier 3 solution to mass marine your screwed basically. Also your kind of forced into robo bay just because of the threat that he may or may not research cloak for his banshees which sucks.

Really Really sucks ass for Toss everywhere that TesteR didn't make it, would have liked to see a solution to problems that i could use... but i guess not ;(
Sixes
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1123 Posts
October 11 2010 14:54 GMT
#125
On October 11 2010 23:39 Agh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 19:17 alkampfer wrote:
Cool, the GSL winner, has spoken. TvP is imbalanced atm in terran's favour.

Read his last interview.


Just because cool says something doesn't make it automatically true.


The problem in PvT is that it is the only match up where somebody with noticeably lower skill can beat someone that is much higher caliber.



TvZ?

I think I have seen more unexpected losses from Z versus T than any other matchup. Most of these are due to some timing push or all in (mostly 1 base) that was not scouted or misinterpreted. The TheWind game is one clear example, the Idra vs Silver game would be another where big names thought they were safer than they were, got hit by a 1 base push and die.
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
October 11 2010 15:02 GMT
#126
We'll all regret making this thread when the guy ends up being super duper awesome.

Tester is the best Protoss player, if not the best player period... about a month ago. Things change. Strategies change. Lets see what this GSL brings.

There will be seeds for 2011
We talkin about PRACTICE
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 11 2010 15:07 GMT
#127
On October 12 2010 00:02 mprs wrote:
We'll all regret making this thread when the guy ends up being super duper awesome.

Tester is the best Protoss player, if not the best player period... about a month ago. Things change. Strategies change. Lets see what this GSL brings.

There will be seeds for 2011

Wait, why will we regret this thread? This thread only exists because Tester is already 'super duper awesome' and him not qualifying is remarkable.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
October 11 2010 15:20 GMT
#128
Sad that they dont have something like Double Elemination for preliminaries.
I dont want to say that his opponent didnt deserve the win (he does deserve it) but I honestly doubt there's no weaker player than sSKS in the RO64.

Main problem for me is I have no protoss left to cheer for
Any suggestions (dont like InCa that much)?
Denizen[9]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States649 Posts
October 11 2010 15:22 GMT
#129
Cool said tester would win the GSL, i hope he doesnt say Idra or TLO will win it now
Jaedong, Baby | Idra, Marineking, Tester, Nada
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
October 11 2010 15:27 GMT
#130
It's fine, at least the GSL is still monthly for now. I'm sure a seeding system will be in place by the 4th GSL at the latest.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
October 11 2010 15:29 GMT
#131
That's just........ messed up. I honestly cannot believe he didn't qualify, majority of the gamers were vouching come time for GSL2 Tester would be the strongest of them all. Either way I'm really disappointed, and couldn't agree more that GSL requires a seeding process.
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
October 11 2010 15:32 GMT
#132
Damn, tester my hero I had a feeling it was going to happen to someone, with more people trying to qualify, a favourite for someone was going to get this
dahornnn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom395 Posts
October 11 2010 15:36 GMT
#133
tteeessstttteerrrr;[[[[[
VenomBRA
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands168 Posts
October 11 2010 15:47 GMT
#134
I feel as if Darth Vader had just cut off m hand and told he's my father
"We got a lot of nothing to say"
Defeat
Profile Joined March 2010
United States476 Posts
October 11 2010 15:50 GMT
#135
On October 11 2010 16:49 JWD wrote:
GSL needs seeds so freaking bad.

Agreed. This almost makes me not want to watch GSL2. Tester was was of the biggest reasons I watched GSL1 :<
"the metagame has really evolved to the point where the best chance to win the metagame is to game the metagame" -Bags
Herculix
Profile Joined May 2010
United States946 Posts
October 11 2010 15:57 GMT
#136
i can't agree with seeding just because people wanted tester to be in it. he was going to deal with people like this from round 64 on, it doesn't matter if he was seeded or not. he's a known beast, he has to expect cheese way more than the average player. if he can't handle that he'll never win GSL even if he's good. this has nothing to do with seeding and people who are blaming his loss on it are just fanboys. he has to earn his way in and tester and everyone else understands that these 3 tournaments are how you earn that seed.
Herculix
Profile Joined May 2010
United States946 Posts
October 11 2010 15:59 GMT
#137
On October 12 2010 00:20 Zocat wrote:
Sad that they dont have something like Double Elemination for preliminaries.
I dont want to say that his opponent didnt deserve the win (he does deserve it) but I honestly doubt there's no weaker player than sSKS in the RO64.

Main problem for me is I have no protoss left to cheer for
Any suggestions (dont like InCa that much)?


nexgenius was dealt the same fate as tester was in GSL1 but he's the the second best imo, better than inca. i'm surprised protoss players don't really know him that well, because i do and protoss is only my off-race.
Gorum
Profile Joined August 2010
3 Posts
October 11 2010 16:05 GMT
#138
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Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
October 11 2010 16:21 GMT
#139
I'm assuming Testers loss was to some kind of cheese / strong timing push. TvP is favored for terran at the high level imo in that P needs to scout better then T as T has a much more versatile army.
T opens marine/marauder and is safe vs anything (if the map doesnt favor voidrays especially) whereas P has a more difficult time knowing what to do without getting a observer.
jNfractal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-11 16:25:31
October 11 2010 16:22 GMT
#140
On October 12 2010 01:05 Gorum wrote:
That's not even Testers name...his name's Seo Ki-Soo....so....yea idk about this.


There are multiple way to romanize a korean name. G's are pronounced like hard k's.
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