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Tester fails to advance in GSL2 qualifiers - Page 6

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QuantumTheory
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand188 Posts
October 11 2010 12:01 GMT
#101
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TESTER
I hope you come back ever dominant in GSL 3.
Train hard buddy.
You're a badass toss.
oGsNADAHHHHH | NOTHING SUSPICIOUS GOING ON HERE - HuK
chesshaha
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1117 Posts
October 11 2010 12:11 GMT
#102
Wow, probably the last person I see not to qualify.

Gl to Tester in the future, this lost will give him more motivation I hope.
"Hopefully you're not the real TLO so it's not casted" - SpecialK
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
October 11 2010 12:16 GMT
#103
On October 11 2010 18:36 tournamentnow wrote:
There's a whole bunch of interviews at fomos, if anyone is kind enough to translate:

http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=111059&db=interview - the guy who beat tester

http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=111057&db=interview


If the google's translation isn't completely broken he says that tester was not memorable to beat ...

+ Show Spoiler +

- The most difficult game
▲ hard to the last finals, but had met in their first game at the end of the Terran player and elrijeon (guess this one is tester) luckily nothing memorable though.


just remembering this is a google generated translation and not a real one
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
October 11 2010 12:17 GMT
#104
On October 11 2010 16:49 JWD wrote:
GSL needs seeds so freaking bad.

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On October 11 2010 16:49 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Kinda the nature of SC2 atm. Stuff is new so if something relatively new comes around and a P player is playing trendy (tester is uber this way) it can get exposed.

I highly doubt that this is about "the nature of SC2" or exposure of Tester's "trendy play". Probably just cheese or, as the ever-euphemistic Korean eSports media calls it, a "unique timing rush".


Remember when Best proxy DT rushed some poor terran on Fortress in the proleague playoffs (don't remember who) and the media called it "strategic play?"
jambonkingcool
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada186 Posts
October 11 2010 12:19 GMT
#105
On October 11 2010 21:17 xxpack09 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 16:49 JWD wrote:
GSL needs seeds so freaking bad.

On October 11 2010 16:49 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Kinda the nature of SC2 atm. Stuff is new so if something relatively new comes around and a P player is playing trendy (tester is uber this way) it can get exposed.

I highly doubt that this is about "the nature of SC2" or exposure of Tester's "trendy play". Probably just cheese or, as the ever-euphemistic Korean eSports media calls it, a "unique timing rush".


Remember when Best proxy DT rushed some poor terran on Fortress in the proleague playoffs (don't remember who) and the media called it "strategic play?"


He won the game right?
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
October 11 2010 12:23 GMT
#106
On October 11 2010 19:47 alkampfer wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On October 11 2010 19:34 hoovehand wrote:
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On October 11 2010 19:17 alkampfer wrote:
Cool, the GSL winner, has spoken. TvP is imbalanced atm in terran's favour.

Read his last interview.


according to blizzard, protoss are beating terran at all skill brackets in ladder.



Protoss are winning more in lower leagues only.
And frankly i prefer giving credit to a progamer opinion than blizzard opinion....
Especially after i saw one of their "balance team" employee match history.


And BoxeR just said he can't understand why they're buffing Zerg since they just won GSL.

Progamers are pros at playing the game, not balancing it.
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-11 12:30:25
October 11 2010 12:29 GMT
#107
On October 11 2010 21:23 Longshank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 19:47 alkampfer wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On October 11 2010 19:34 hoovehand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 19:17 alkampfer wrote:
Cool, the GSL winner, has spoken. TvP is imbalanced atm in terran's favour.

Read his last interview.


according to blizzard, protoss are beating terran at all skill brackets in ladder.



Protoss are winning more in lower leagues only.
And frankly i prefer giving credit to a progamer opinion than blizzard opinion....
Especially after i saw one of their "balance team" employee match history.


And BoxeR just said he can't understand why they're buffing Zerg since they just won GSL.

Progamers are pros at playing the game, not balancing it.


This. Most korean progamers do WHATEVER it takes to win. They would never say "my race is op" because that could lead to a nerf which in turn would reduce their chance of winning . They became pro's because they have this mindset. Winning is ALL that matters. Flash and JD, two of the most succesful players have almost cheesed in all BOx's.
And I love that mindset. At the very top playing anything pro is all about winning and doing whatever makes your chances of this the highest.
This is also why I love watching "cheese" or strategic play.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
ArcXangel
Profile Joined September 2010
Colombia13 Posts
October 11 2010 12:32 GMT
#108
so sad.

Who is gonna be the best protoss player in this GSL?
Mada mada dane
altered
Profile Joined March 2008
Switzerland646 Posts
October 11 2010 12:34 GMT
#109
On October 11 2010 17:27 Meriones wrote:
This is the tournament to determine seeds. That's why no one is reseeded. If they were reseeded then winning Open 1 gives a huge advantage over winning Open 2. That's extremely silly.

SC2 has a lot of luck and divergence. This is why Elky quit WC3. It is a new game, which naturally has this. But SC2 is also designed to be this way. When you try to focus a lot more on decision making rather than mechanics you get people that accidentally make the right or wrong decision. You can't accidentally have good mechanics.

And don't give me the 'if SC2 is so easy then why aren't you winning SC2' line. If SC2 is so easy, then why did Tester lose? Because the game is easier for everyone. That's the point. That's why inferior players win more often. And that's why it doesn't feel good stealing a game off a better player or winning vs a inferior player by dodging cheese/luck.

And Tester won points already. Maybe not enough for S class, but no one knows how the point rating works. Surely he has A class already.



So Elky quit WC3 because of the luck factor and then switched to Poker?

Btw i dont understand why people are so surprised when a very good player loses to another (very) good player. No one here saw the games but most people posting here just auto assume cheese or imbalance or luck (due to low skill cap). Well maybe Tester had a bad day or his Opponent had a good day (or both). Maybe his Opp is even better than him. Its too hard to say what caused the loss especially if we didnt see the games.
Either way SC2 certainly has some luck factor (its not chess) but so has every sport and its good it is so because it would be totaly boring otherwise (if the better player always wins, why bother watching the games? we would already know in advance who wins).
This innate luck factor (that is bigger today than in a couple of months/years because the game is still new) is also the best argument for not having seeds in the first couple of tournaments. Because otherwise the guys who were lucky in GSL1 would profit from it. Allowing seeds after 3 open tournaments is better because you will have a bigger samplesize to determine the skilled players from.
Does Flash dream of electric Romeo?
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
October 11 2010 12:39 GMT
#110
Wow, I am shocked and a bit sad to hear this. Honestly, they need to seed players who did well in the previous season.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
October 11 2010 12:41 GMT
#111
God damn terrans and their "unique timing pushes"...
Yhamm is the god of predictions
KingAce
Profile Joined September 2010
United States471 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-11 12:43:17
October 11 2010 12:42 GMT
#112
Those Terran timing pushes are a beast to deal with against protoss. Anyway the GSL is what I use to analyze the balance of the game. I think zergs will do well this season, and protoss will suffer. More reason for me to rage at blizzard if patch 1.2 dare's to nerf toss in any way.
"You're defined by the WORST of your group..." Bill Burr
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
October 11 2010 12:49 GMT
#113
old pros not donig so well? tester, july and junwi out if i read ti right
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-11 14:04:05
October 11 2010 13:15 GMT
#114
On October 11 2010 17:01 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 16:49 JWD wrote:
GSL needs seeds so freaking bad.

On October 11 2010 16:49 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Kinda the nature of SC2 atm. Stuff is new so if something relatively new comes around and a P player is playing trendy (tester is uber this way) it can get exposed.

I highly doubt that this is about "the nature of SC2" or exposure of Tester's "trendy play". Probably just cheese or, as the ever-euphemistic Korean eSports media calls it, a "unique timing rush".


It was 2-0, and by the hundreds of posts on the other thread, didn't look like it was cheese, instead it was really smart play and smart studying.

I'm pretty sad that nobody is going to give this guy any credit for taking out tester, instead they just blame it on cheese/luck.

I'm with iNcontroL. The game is so new that nobody can ever be guaranteed to qualify, tester, cool, etc. included. Anyone can lose, and today, it was Testers day to lose.

I don't use cheese pejoratively (about Fomos maybe, not about the player who defeated Tester). Also I am obviously uninformed, that's why "probably". I'll take your word on the posts in the other thread and stand corrected. (See forr4078's post below.) Thanks for the info. The thrust of my post was that I am surprised such a solid player as Tester could have lost 0-2 straight up to an unknown.

On October 11 2010 17:14 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 16:49 JWD wrote:
GSL needs seeds so freaking bad.

On October 11 2010 16:49 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Kinda the nature of SC2 atm. Stuff is new so if something relatively new comes around and a P player is playing trendy (tester is uber this way) it can get exposed.

I highly doubt that this is about "the nature of SC2" or exposure of Tester's "trendy play". Probably just cheese or, as the ever-euphemistic Korean eSports media calls it, a "unique timing rush".


Oh my bad bro.. you know more about sc2 preach on

hahaha iNc, glad we could have this discussion
✌
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
October 11 2010 13:45 GMT
#115
This is crazy, I can't believe he didn't make it. D:
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
vohne
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines197 Posts
October 11 2010 13:47 GMT
#116
So depressing to hear that he didn't qualify. I agreed with anyone regarding the seeding issue, GSL definitely needs this. As for his "unique timing push" i definitely will keep a watch out. Meta game, this is what makes sc2 exciting! If he can beat tester, there is no saying what he can do. He might have research and plans for every good player.. (cue horror music).
LuciferSC
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada535 Posts
October 11 2010 13:54 GMT
#117
During an interview of Kim Byung Jin done via Fomos today, Fruit dealer (a TSL team buddy) walked in on them (he was doing his own elimination round games) and said "I will get my revenge -_-+"

It will be funny to see Kim Byung Jin and Fruit dealer play each other in main rounds. lol
Come get some
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
October 11 2010 13:54 GMT
#118
aw that sucks
i was hoping tester would make it.... *sigh*
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
October 11 2010 14:00 GMT
#119
As a former Protoss player i'm not surprised at all.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
forr4078
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)12 Posts
October 11 2010 14:00 GMT
#120
- 결승 상대가 ‘사기수’ 서기수였는데, 긴장되지 않았는지
▲ 대진표를 보고 나서는 서기수 선수와 해서 완패만 당하지 말자고 마음을 먹었다. 1경기 때는 내가 주로 쓰던 안 당해본 사람들에게 잘 통하는 전략이 우연히 잘 통해 이길 수 있었다.


- Your opponent in the final round was Tester. Were you nervous?
▲ After I saw the match table, I only wanted to avoid getting steamrolled (note: the nuance is that he thought he was going to lose). In the first match I used one of my favorite strategies that works well on people who have never seen it, and luckily it worked and I won.

Sounds like an admission of cheese, not that it's a sin.
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