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DND_Enkil
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden598 Posts
October 11 2010 08:28 GMT
#61
Sad to see Tester get knocked out, really wanted some good protoss to go far and that is one out...

But like others have said already he was beaten 2-0 by another good player, i read that first game was marine+banshee and no idea about second. Either way, from what i understood in the live report thread he did not loose to cheese, he just faced another really good player who had practiced a lot and was well prepared with good BO's he had prepared based on the matches in GSL S1 (not against Tester specificly but against top P's).

The best will prevail, and for this day, this game, Tester was not the best.
"If you write about a sewing needle there is always some one-eyed bastard that gets offended" - Fritiof The Pirate Nilsson
PaPoolee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands660 Posts
October 11 2010 08:29 GMT
#62
Wow do any of you know how he lost, and to who ? i can't believe tester lost... Now what are the chances of a Protoss getting to the semi finals? I'm guessing very little... .
BookII
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia400 Posts
October 11 2010 08:33 GMT
#63
Greatest Hope for Protoss now?
Maybe oGsInca.
Hopefully Huk can give toss a chance at GSL3.
Still go Inca
PhoenixM1
Profile Joined January 2010
United States178 Posts
October 11 2010 08:34 GMT
#64
Nice! Tester's been sitting on the tip top too damn long I think it's softening him up. He definitely could have played better against ITR and now that he's failed to qualify for the RO64 he should have a spark lit under his ass for next season. Tester mops up gsl season 3!
=/
greycubed
Profile Joined May 2010
United States615 Posts
October 11 2010 08:37 GMT
#65
On October 11 2010 17:29 PaPoolee wrote:
Wow do any of you know how he lost, and to who ?
Nope, no one has figured out who he lost to yet. Someone will email you when they do.
http://i.imgur.com/N3ujB.png
gozima
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada602 Posts
October 11 2010 08:39 GMT
#66
If anyone thinks open style tournaments and having no seeds are such great ideas, you should petition MLG to do the same.

Half of MLGs invitees haven't accomplished anything in the SC2 scene, yet they get invited because of some past accomplishment.

I know the first 3 seasons of GSL are basically qualifiers, but GSL would benefit much more if they just invited a bunch of "established" pros from the scene just like MLG does.

If MLG had some type of nationwide online qualifier for their MLG events, I doubt a fraction of their invitees would even qualify.
DND_Enkil
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden598 Posts
October 11 2010 08:41 GMT
#67
On October 11 2010 17:33 BookII wrote:
Greatest Hope for Protoss now?
Maybe oGsInca.
Hopefully Huk can give toss a chance at GSL3.
Still go Inca


Also say Inca so far, are some other Protoss players that did okay in GSL1 but not sure any of them will go further in GSL2. Thinking about LegalMind, sanZenith, ZanDarke, HongUnPrime, KeepingWeRRa.

Hoping to see one of the "new" qualified P's will show some good play.
"If you write about a sewing needle there is always some one-eyed bastard that gets offended" - Fritiof The Pirate Nilsson
TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
October 11 2010 08:43 GMT
#68
On October 11 2010 17:39 gozima wrote:
If anyone thinks open style tournaments and having no seeds are such great ideas, you should petition MLG to do the same.

Half of MLGs invitees haven't accomplished anything in the SC2 scene, yet they get invited because of some past accomplishment.

I know the first 3 seasons of GSL are basically qualifiers, but GSL would benefit much more if they just invited a bunch of "established" pros from the scene just like MLG does.

If MLG had some type of nationwide online qualifier for their MLG events, I doubt a fraction of their invitees would even qualify.


Why do you think "GSL would benefit much more" from seeding players?
Meriones
Profile Joined October 2010
43 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-11 08:49:20
October 11 2010 08:46 GMT
#69
On October 11 2010 17:39 gozima wrote:
I know the first 3 seasons of GSL are basically qualifiers, but GSL would benefit much more if they just invited a bunch of "established" pros from the scene just like MLG does.


But then if you win Open 1 you get x points and a seed into Open 2 to win more points. But if you win Open 3 you get just x points. How is that fair? You want Open 1 to be more important than Open 3? Why? Or should you get more points for Open 3?

The only elegant way to do it is to have a level playing field after every Open finishes. If Tester and other 'big names' are so good, why can't they just win?

Also, Boxer, Nada, July, they all couldn't play Open 1. So they already have limited odds. If people automatically seeded into Open 2 there will be less spots. That means people that now qualified had to eliminate each other. How is that helping big names? it is just protecting no-names that got famous in Open 1 because they got lucky and less people played compared to Open 2. If you allowed seeds then Open 3 may get largely irrelevant. If 32 people scored points in Open 1 and Open 2 then you basically need to win Open 3 to get S class if you haven't any points yet because you started later.

These tournaments create big names. Having a big name in SC BW doesn't mean anything in SC2.

.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
October 11 2010 08:50 GMT
#70
On October 11 2010 17:21 ParasitJonte wrote:
Well it's a fact of PvT at the moment. Terran is really strong early and early mid. That's how he lost to intotherainbow.

There's like no protoss hero... Too much focus has been on fixing ZvT. Nobody seems to care about the horrible PvT early game.



QFT

Sucks to see him go :/ TOP as well...oh my gosh...I want replays now to see how these guys lost
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
October 11 2010 08:52 GMT
#71
On October 11 2010 17:34 PhoenixM1 wrote:
Nice! Tester's been sitting on the tip top too damn long I think it's softening him up.


lol what did Tester achieve AFTER release?

seriously, how can you say Tester's been "sitting on the top" when he hasn't really dominated anything since sc2-release; I'm a huge Tester fan and - exactly the opposite - I am of the opinion that he would deserve to be "sitting on the top" finally

losing in Ro8 GSL 1 and know not even qualifying is very unfortunate for a player of his format, he deserved to to better
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 11 2010 08:58 GMT
#72
On October 11 2010 17:21 Sylvr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 17:17 skindzer wrote:
A a lots of people have said before, GSL needs Seeds to be considered a serious tournament,


I could be wrong, but I think it's the ~$87,000 first prize that makes it a "serious tournament".


You could be wrong...
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gozima
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada602 Posts
October 11 2010 09:07 GMT
#73
On October 11 2010 17:43 TaKemE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 17:39 gozima wrote:
If anyone thinks open style tournaments and having no seeds are such great ideas, you should petition MLG to do the same.

Half of MLGs invitees haven't accomplished anything in the SC2 scene, yet they get invited because of some past accomplishment.

I know the first 3 seasons of GSL are basically qualifiers, but GSL would benefit much more if they just invited a bunch of "established" pros from the scene just like MLG does.

If MLG had some type of nationwide online qualifier for their MLG events, I doubt a fraction of their invitees would even qualify.


Why do you think "GSL would benefit much more" from seeding players?


For the same reasons MLG does it in NA. More viewers. Just look at the netizen explosion on the Korean forums when BoxeR qualified. Having that one guy qualify is sure to increase viewership by a tonne.

Imagine MLG holding some type of qualification round with a crap tonne of no names making it. Do you think their viewership numbers will increase from it? Probably not.

E-Sports isn't very different from traditional Sports. We have teams we cheer for and favorite players we cheer for too, so seeding them would benefit everyone.
Bambooca
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark49 Posts
October 11 2010 09:11 GMT
#74
Wow this has to be a big burden for him.
PhoenixM1
Profile Joined January 2010
United States178 Posts
October 11 2010 09:11 GMT
#75
On October 11 2010 17:52 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 17:34 PhoenixM1 wrote:
Nice! Tester's been sitting on the tip top too damn long I think it's softening him up.


lol what did Tester achieve AFTER release?

seriously, how can you say Tester's been "sitting on the top" when he hasn't really dominated anything since sc2-release; I'm a huge Tester fan and - exactly the opposite - I am of the opinion that he would deserve to be "sitting on the top" finally

losing in Ro8 GSL 1 and know not even qualifying is very unfortunate for a player of his format, he deserved to to better


I am also a Tester fan. I don't mean Tester wins all the events and terrorizes everything but he's generally thought of as the best Protoss player. I just mean that maybe after being slapped down before ro64 he'll be getting real serious for this next season. I'm assuming that he came to this season unprepared, I really don't see how a player of his caliber could have lost pre-ro64 otherwise. Then again, maybe this guy who wiped him out is going to dominate the whole thing, we never know.
=/
SoJu.WeRRa
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)820 Posts
October 11 2010 09:20 GMT
#76
Sad to hear.. I think this T from Zenith clan will be pretty good during this tourney.
나를 찢어갈겨이씨발놈아왜나를미치게만들어니가뭘아는데?
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
October 11 2010 09:26 GMT
#77
TESTER.......NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


my favorite protoss ever is now out. I hope the guy who beat him wins the whole thing.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
tournamentnow
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia111 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-11 09:36:53
October 11 2010 09:36 GMT
#78
There's a whole bunch of interviews at fomos, if anyone is kind enough to translate:

http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=111059&db=interview - the guy who beat tester

http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=111057&db=interview
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
October 11 2010 09:42 GMT
#79
On October 11 2010 18:11 PhoenixM1 wrote:
I am also a Tester fan. I don't mean Tester wins all the events and terrorizes everything but he's generally thought of as the best Protoss player. I just mean that maybe after being slapped down before ro64 he'll be getting real serious for this next season. I'm assuming that he came to this season unprepared, I really don't see how a player of his caliber could have lost pre-ro64 otherwise. Then again, maybe this guy who wiped him out is going to dominate the whole thing, we never know.


Tester was really bummed after losing to ITR according to some comments here around, and he also sounded very determined to do "better" (!) in GSL 2 - he wasn't satisfied with GSL 1 and I'm sure he practiced very hard for GSL 2

how he could lose? because the game is new, and because terran has a crap-load of timing pushes and I'm guessing not even half of them are discovered yet; polt showed us how it's done; take one week to think about and practice a timing push nobody has ever done before - then play it and own because there's no way your opponent can learn to adapt to it in the break between game 1 and 2;
it was said flint used banshees and marines at least in game 1 - timing-pushes around these two units are currently created with much creativity, I wouldn't be surprised if flint came up with a variation Tester simply hasn't seen before...like the Polt-Prime-play just delayed enough to work stim in....but then again that's just pure speculation
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
101TFP
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
420 Posts
October 11 2010 09:42 GMT
#80
The skill gap in SC2 just isn't high enough (yet) to ensure the qualification of all the "known pros"
People get what they get, this has nothing to do with what they deserve.
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