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SmoKing2012
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States385 Posts
May 18 2009 04:31 GMT
#1741
damn im worried about the celts now.. pierce just looked old the whole series, i don't think he has many more all-star caliber years left in him. KG will hopefully be back strong next year but he's on the decline, and it's possible the knee thing will keep nagging at him. At least Ray had a solid game, but he can't carry a team, he needs to work with players who can get to the basket more to free him for looks. Hopefully Bill Walker develops into somethin good, he's got good size and athletic ability. But yea the future doesn't look so bright right now..

Anyways, here's what my sources have told me for the upcoming series:
Cleveland 4 > 2 Orlando
LA 4 > 3 Denver
Cleveland 4 > 3 LA

I think LA / Denver will be the closest, that could easily go either way.
How do you like them apples, ho-bag? And how do you like those very same apples, Eggars!
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
May 18 2009 04:46 GMT
#1742
Yeah, the best players on the Celtics are old The signing of Ray Allen and KG with the already veteran of Pierce was suppose to help them win like 1-2 championships
SmoKing2012
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States385 Posts
May 18 2009 04:52 GMT
#1743
On May 18 2009 13:46 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Yeah, the best players on the Celtics are old The signing of Ray Allen and KG with the already veteran of Pierce was suppose to help them win like 1-2 championships

yea, we gave up alot of younger players and some draft picks if I recall correctly. It was worth it though, last year was awesome.
How do you like them apples, ho-bag? And how do you like those very same apples, Eggars!
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
May 18 2009 05:18 GMT
#1744
As much as I'm glad that Boston is out (the only players I like on that team are Ray and Powe), I've got to give them a lot of credit for playing as well as they did with all the injuries. It'll be interesting to see how they give minutes to both Powe and Big Baby next season with a healthy KG, it's not like any of those three are really centers.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
May 18 2009 05:20 GMT
#1745
On May 18 2009 13:31 SmoKing2012 wrote:
damn im worried about the celts now.. pierce just looked old the whole series, i don't think he has many more all-star caliber years left in him. KG will hopefully be back strong next year but he's on the decline, and it's possible the knee thing will keep nagging at him. At least Ray had a solid game, but he can't carry a team, he needs to work with players who can get to the basket more to free him for looks. Hopefully Bill Walker develops into somethin good, he's got good size and athletic ability. But yea the future doesn't look so bright right now..

Anyways, here's what my sources have told me for the upcoming series:
Cleveland 4 > 2 Orlando
LA 4 > 3 Denver
Cleveland 4 > 3 LA

I think LA / Denver will be the closest, that could easily go either way.


Pierce has 0 all-star caliber years left in him, neither does KG. Ray Allen is the only one left with juice in the tank IMO. Rondo is good and will get better, but nobody else will develop into anything special in my opinion. The rest of their players feed off of KG/Piece, but with them declining, the progress of people like Perkins and Glen Davis will also decline. Boston is pretty much fucked in the butt unless they do some restructuring around their core 3 with a long term plan.

Basically what they need is some new solid role players + 1-2 young people who they think will be future stars (a la Rondo) so that when Pierce/KG/Allen contracts go up, they can afford to either get another big name player elsewhere, or pay big money to an upcoming player on their team.
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eStoniaNBoY
Profile Joined December 2002
Switzerland439 Posts
May 18 2009 05:32 GMT
#1746
Boston is still an elite team and will be so for the next couple of years. I wouldn't be surprised if they get another title next season
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
May 18 2009 05:39 GMT
#1747
such a sad loss for the rockets...but i really would rather get blown out than lose by less than 10 pts so i guess it's all good

as for boston...their window of opportunity is definitely gone, for sure. knee injuries are one of the hardest injuries to get back from and kg's age isn't helping. so im like expecting cavs/lakers/magic/blazers/(rockets?) for the next few years or so

gotta give credit to the celts though, they played really well (overachieved even?) in the postseason.
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igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-18 06:24:18
May 18 2009 05:42 GMT
#1748
Unless KG remains crippled by his knee injury (the tendon in the back of his knee is coming loose), he's definitely an all-star next year. This year he was statistically the strongest defensive presence in the league (in terms of points scored when he was on the floor, there's a link somewhere).

KG shoots turnaround jumpers and cleans up at that rim offensively. Offenses can't really play off isolations unless they're doubled.

Perkins, Rondo, and Glen Davis are all young.

Healthy celtics have as much a chance as any team next year. They could stand to improve with some quality pickups. Even without garnett, they could have much been much better with say Joe Smith instead of Mikki Moore.

Edit: And I think you guys are highly underrating Orlando. And my bad, I was thinking it's Joe something, and Josh Smith is on the Hawks...
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
May 18 2009 06:13 GMT
#1749
On May 18 2009 14:42 igotmyown wrote:
Unless KG remains crippled by his knee injury (the tendon in the back of his knee is coming loose), he's definitely an all-star next year. This year he was statistically the strongest defensive presence in the league (in terms of points scored when he was on the floor, there's a link somewhere).

KG shoots turnaround jumpers and cleans up at that rim offensively. Offenses can't really play off isolations unless they're doubled.

Perkins, Rondo, and Glen Davis are all young.

Healthy celtics have as much a chance as any team next year. They could stand to improve with some quality pickups. Even without garnett, they could have much been much better with say Joe Johnson instead of Mikki Moore.

Edit: And I think you guys are highly underrating Orlando.


I think the Celtics need a true backup Center to be contenders again next year. Perkins is the only actual Center on that team, they could use a solid 7 foot role player who can board and play defense.

Joe Johnson? That's more than a "quality pickup" IMO. Having three future HOFers is nice enough, but toss in another Allstar-level talent like JJ and that team is just ridiculously loaded. I highly doubt they'd be able to get a player of that caliber without losing one of the big 3.
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SmoKing2012
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States385 Posts
May 18 2009 06:55 GMT
#1750
BTW Perkins really impressed me this post season. He's got something of a close hook shot he can hit as well as the 5 foot jumper, and he was very good on defense when he wasn't getting into foul trouble. He just needs to learn when to be aggressive with the ball and not hesitate with a pump-1 dribble and end up getting called for a goddamn travel. He will continue to develop in all aspects next year.
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HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
May 18 2009 09:15 GMT
#1751
FANDOM CHAUNCEY ALL IN




ok I kinda like Delonte West too (read my sig)
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iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
May 18 2009 09:19 GMT
#1752
On May 18 2009 15:13 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2009 14:42 igotmyown wrote:
Unless KG remains crippled by his knee injury (the tendon in the back of his knee is coming loose), he's definitely an all-star next year. This year he was statistically the strongest defensive presence in the league (in terms of points scored when he was on the floor, there's a link somewhere).

KG shoots turnaround jumpers and cleans up at that rim offensively. Offenses can't really play off isolations unless they're doubled.

Perkins, Rondo, and Glen Davis are all young.

Healthy celtics have as much a chance as any team next year. They could stand to improve with some quality pickups. Even without garnett, they could have much been much better with say Joe Johnson instead of Mikki Moore.

Edit: And I think you guys are highly underrating Orlando.


I think the Celtics need a true backup Center to be contenders again next year. Perkins is the only actual Center on that team, they could use a solid 7 foot role player who can board and play defense.

Joe Johnson? That's more than a "quality pickup" IMO. Having three future HOFers is nice enough, but toss in another Allstar-level talent like JJ and that team is just ridiculously loaded. I highly doubt they'd be able to get a player of that caliber without losing one of the big 3.

I'd say he meant Joe Smith.
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13007 Posts
May 18 2009 14:19 GMT
#1753
One time Nuggets. Goooooo!
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
May 18 2009 14:20 GMT
#1754
Wow, can't wait to see Orlando vs Cavs. I wonder if Lebron can still be effective against D. Howard.
Sanity.
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States704 Posts
May 18 2009 15:08 GMT
#1755
On May 18 2009 23:19 RowdierBob wrote:
One time Nuggets. Goooooo!

PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
May 18 2009 20:26 GMT
#1756
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4174282

LOL jesus K-Mart is pretty dumb. I assume he doesn't realize "ain't never" is a double negative. Didn't notice the stuff he said to fans etc. though, funny how he doesn't address that.
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
May 18 2009 20:40 GMT
#1757
On May 18 2009 18:19 iLoveKTF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2009 15:13 XaI)CyRiC wrote:I think the Celtics need a true backup Center to be contenders again next year. Perkins is the only actual Center on that team, they could use a solid 7 foot role player who can board and play defense.

Joe Johnson? That's more than a "quality pickup" IMO. Having three future HOFers is nice enough, but toss in another Allstar-level talent like JJ and that team is just ridiculously loaded. I highly doubt they'd be able to get a player of that caliber without losing one of the big 3.

I'd say he meant Joe Smith.


Ahhh... should've realized That makes much more sense.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
May 18 2009 21:27 GMT
#1758
IMO Orlando is the only team that has a chance of beating Clevland (in the east, and not counting a fully-healthy Boston since they weren't fully healthy). However, whether or not they actually beat Clevland is 100% on them. Clevland is very similar to San Antonio in that they rarely have off nights - they're always going to be playing Clevland basketball at a fairly high level. To beat them you NEED to out-play them. Orlando is capable of outplaying Clevland; they proved it during the regular season, and they're one of the best road teams in the NBA. Will they be able to do it though?

Orlando's had issues all post season - getting big leads and blowing them, seemingly cracking under pressure, etc. So it really depends on what Orlando team shows up to play Clevland because I don't think Clevland is going to beat itself. And honestly I don't really think Clevland is playing significantly better than they did in the regular season... their opponents have been about the same and they have a similar point differential. Essentially, they're playing exactly the same game as they have been all season. Orlando found a winning formula during the season, the onus is on them to do what they did.

Orlando matches up very well against Clevland. LeBron's damage offensively is almost 100% done in the paint. Howard might be one of the only people in the NBA who can deny him from getting easy baskets in there, because nobody in the East can single-coverage him successfully. Alston is a good PG who can contend with Delonte West. Mo Williams can be picked up by Pietrus or Courtney Lee, who are both bigger than Mo and very agile. Also, Clevland will have problems dealing with Orlando's shooters... Rashard Lewis is going to be a big matchup problem for them I think, either him or Turkoglu. They're going to need to put LeBron on Turkoglu or Lewis, which means one or the other will be free to do a ton of damage. Neither Big Z or Varajao will be able to neutralize Dwight. I think the series is definitely winnable.

That being said, Orlando has shown very inconsistent play, while Clevland has been the epitome of consistency this season and in the playoffs. At the very least, I'm expecting an interesting series, I don't think Clevland will sweep.

I'm going to predcit Clevland wins 4-2, with Orlando taking one game IN Clevland (possibly game 1), but the games are going to be good and competitive, I'm not expecting the Cavs to win by 10+ every game. However, I'm REALLLLLLLLLLY rooting for Orlando because I fucking HATE Clevland.
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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
May 18 2009 21:33 GMT
#1759
I disagree with all the talk about KG getting old, I think he has the most juice left. He is just so passionate about the game
shmay
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States1091 Posts
May 18 2009 21:48 GMT
#1760
On May 19 2009 06:33 il0seonpurpose wrote:
I disagree with all the talk about KG getting old, I think he has the most juice left. He is just so passionate about the game


listen to the recent simmons podcast with the knee-expert where they pretty much talk entirely about kg's knee. simply put, it's broken and can't be easily fixed. it's not something he can power through.
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