EPTNBA Playoffs 09 - Page 87
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Ra.Xor.2
United States1784 Posts
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DN2perfectionGM
United States233 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
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DN2perfectionGM
United States233 Posts
and the fact that pietrus is putting the game away really sucks go celtics | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
p.s. Magics pls dont screw up. | ||
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DN2perfectionGM
United States233 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
Come on crowd, give them a standing ovation for a gutty playoffs. Why the hell are there empty seats. | ||
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
Still, they made a hell of a fight out of it. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On May 18 2009 11:34 triangle wrote: Yup, Celtics pretty much done. Still, they made a hell of a fight out of it. no they didn't - they honestly played like shit this game. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
no they didn't - they honestly played like shit this game. I meant in the playoffs in general, battling through injuries/adversity.This game, not so much. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14904 Posts
go nuggets now | ||
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
Go Cavs, woot woot | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
boston did fight very hard throughout the entire playoffs. props to them. (they are still a bunch of punks though) | ||
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Dknight
United States5223 Posts
On May 18 2009 12:21 OneOther wrote: orlando shot the lights out beyond the arc boston did fight very hard throughout the entire playoffs. props to them. (they are still a bunch of punks though) Most of those 3 pointers weren't even contested. Just horrible d. Horrible all around. =[ | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
Houston LA was another blowout (both teams played badly but Houston played worse)... Boston Orlando was shitty too. fuck I hope the next series are better. GOGO ORLANDO + LAKERS. fuck Clevland. that is all. | ||
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no_comprender
Australia91 Posts
On May 18 2009 02:47 XaI)CyRiC wrote: i mean elite elite in that he's not head and shoulders above his peers like jordans seems to have been, obviously he's a elite athlete in the context of the general population but it's rare that kobe can go out and just burn someone with superior quickness and dunking on everybody like how lebron plays, he's athletic but it's not really why he's so good, there's been many a guard who's got kobe beat physically who never did anything in the nbaYou don't do what Kobe does without being an elite athlete. He's gotten older and has lost some of his athleticism in the past few years, but he's still got plenty and has refined his skill set to offset it. Talking about Kobe's size doesn't prove anything, as he's strong, tall, and quick enough to keep up with any player at his position (and many out of it) while proving to be the toughest player to guard one on one in the league. If you've watched him play, he is plenty strong, able to post up any SG in the league, and even many SFs. He's one of the best non-big players in the league at rebounding off of a FT miss, which speaks to both his strength and leaping ability. If you've seen him chase down players on fast breaks, you can see he paces most guards in the league and is able to time his jump perfectly to meet most players in the air. It's Kobe's incomparable skill set that makes him heads and shoulders above the rest, but there's no way he can do what he does on the court without elite athleticism as well. He may not be the best athlete in the league, but he's up there. you mention his posting up skill (which is considerable), that isn't about him being stronger, someone as skilled as kobe you just can't really push them at all cos he can spin both ways, drop step, fake the turnaround etc etc etc so you basically have to wait for the double and just try to not to let him get a step and force him to shoot a turnaround if he's going to shoot, so you're forced to give ground. his strength in that area, when he gets to show it off, is his ridiculous repertoire, not his physical advantage. and it's the same with his perimeter game, his versatility forces defenders to think of too many options so they give ground to whatever maneuver he ends up doing (which is too often a bailout 20ft jumpshot these days), kobe has never had the turn-it-on explosiveness of guards approaching his skill level like tmac or carter or even 2nd tier guys like jason richardson, and is probably similar to someone like ray allen, non of whom do a great job of gaurding him. guys like bruce bowen or shane battier do a good job on kobe without being that athletically gifted themselves because they play more cerebrally. if denver think dahntay jones can gaurd him they'll probably try to post him up, i've never really seen kobe consistently post up too many guys who he wasn't at least equal in physical attributes though, it's usually either a predesigned iso to take advantage of a mismatch, or on a switch with the pg the ft rebounding, that's like 90% positioning and reading the bounce off the rim like all rebounding, yeah you need to be able to jump to get it and hold position but no one is arguing that kobe is a cripple. the running the floor thing: it's a lot easier to chase people down because you don't have the ball and can time your jump perfectly since you can see the other guy, who has to deal with dribbling, timing his steps so he doesn't travel, worrying about the guy behind him etc. unlike lebron who's huge speed advantage in the open floor is blatantly obvious both with and without the ball | ||
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